Why the Phrase "Black-on-Black Crime" Suggests Inherent Criminality

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[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

The system did work in the TM/GZ case. When there's so much doubt surrounding the actual events, and a serious lack of evidence ... how can anyone claim it didn't?

So how did Trevor Dooley end up a) charged within 48 hours following local only protests of his walking away from his shooting another man and b) convicted of manslaughter? Are we saying the system did not work in that case? Is it a coincidence that in that case the shooter was black and the victim was white? Or has the different outcome of the otherwise quite similar cases something to do with the turned tables? It's a valid question to ask. If anything, Mr. Dooley had a stronger case of self defense than Mr. Zimmermann fabricated. There's no color-blind justice in this country.

Edited July 25, 2013 by Mr. Big Dog

[Karee 4,190]

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[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

So how did Trevor Dooley end up a) charged within 48 hours following local only protests of his walking away from his shooting another man and b) convicted of manslaughter? Are we saying the system did not work in that case? Is it a coincidence that in that case the shooter was black and the victim was white? Or has the different outcome of the otherwise quite similar cases something to do with the turned tables? It's a valid question to ask. If anything, Mr. Dooley had a stronger case of self defense than Mr. Zimmermann fabricated. There's no color-blind justice in this country.

I didn't even want to bring this up. And the worst thing was Dooley took the stand to defend his actions. He chose stand your ground and explained what happened in his own words. Yet he still got sentenced to 8 years in prison.

[Teddy B 17,252]

Didn't Trevor Dooley pull his gun out during a verbal argument at a playground and aim at the guy he was arguing with? In turn the guy tackled him to the ground, then Dooley shot him?

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Didn't Trevor Dooley pull his gun out during a verbal argument at a playground and aim at the guy he was arguing with? In turn the guy tackled him to the ground, then Dooley shot him?

Sounds somewhat similar to another case we have been discussing.

[Teddy B 17,252]

Sounds somewhat similar to another case we have been discussing.

I don't remember seeing anything similar to the Dooley case being discussed here.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Didn't Trevor Dooley pull his gun out during a verbal argument at a playground and aim at the guy he was arguing with? In turn the guy tackled him to the ground, then Dooley shot him?

Nope, he raised his shirt to show the gun, then said F you, turned around and walked away. James ran up to him grabbed him from behind, spun him around and then reached for his Dooley's gun. They fell to the ground, Dooley said James was choking him out, that's when he shot him.

[Teddy B 17,252]

Nope, he raised his shirt to show the gun, then said F you, turned around and walked away. James ran up to him grabbed him from behind, spun him around and then reached for his Dooley's gun. They fell to the ground, Dooley said James was choking him out, that's when he shot him.

This says Dooley pulled his gun. Either way, pulling it, or showing it to someone in a threatening manner is the same to me. It's a clear threat.

Tampa, Florida - A judge has set Trevor Dooley's bond at $50,000.

Dooley, 69, is accused of shooting his neighbor David James, 41, when the two got into an argument over a 14-year-old boy riding a skateboard on the basketball courts across from his home in the Twin Lakes community.

James had gone to the courts that Sunday afternoon to play basketball with his 8-year-old daughter, Danielle, as they often do. Hillsborough County sheriff's detectives say James was sticking up for the boy, sparking an argument between himself and Dooley.

Detectives say Dooley pulled out his handgun from his waistband, prompting James to lunge at him in his own defense.

http://www.wtsp.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=148431

Edited July 25, 2013 by Teddy B

[decocker 7,198]

all over a kid skateboarding. awesome waste of life.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

So how did Trevor Dooley end up a) charged within 48 hours following local only protests of his walking away from his shooting another man and b) convicted of manslaughter? Are we saying the system did not work in that case? Is it a coincidence that in that case the shooter was black and the victim was white? Or has the different outcome of the otherwise quite similar cases something to do with the turned tables? It's a valid question to ask. If anything, Mr. Dooley had a stronger case of self defense than Mr. Zimmermann fabricated. There's no color-blind justice in this country.

I'll be honest, I know nothing of the Trevor Dooley case.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

This says Dooley pulled his gun. Either way, pulling it, or showing it to someone in a threatening manner is the same to me. It's a clear threat.

But Dooley was walking away from James when James accosted him. Maybe I am just a different person, but if somebody I am arguring with shows me he has a gun, unless he points it at my wife, my kids, or me, I am not going to engage him.

Edit: Here is the article I read: http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/criminal/jury-finds-trevor-dooley-guilty-in-manslaughter-case/1262347

The bizarre nature of the dispute, they said, caused them to stop and watch. It quickly took a lethal turn.

They testified last week they saw Dooley flip up his T-shirt, revealing a gun in his waistband, as he cursed James. They said Dooley then turned and headed home, but James spun him around and tried to grab the gun.

Edited July 25, 2013 by Su and Marvin

[Teddy B 17,252]

They said Dooley then turned and headed home, but James spun him around and tried to grab the gun.

Good! Someone threatens me with a gun, especially when my children are there, and doesn't use it, is going to be in a world of hurt if I get the chance. It's a shame James is the one who got shot.

Funny how something is always amiss when there's a black man involved, eh?

Edited July 25, 2013 by Teddy B

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But Dooley was walking away from James when James accosted him. Maybe I am just a different person, but if somebody I am arguring with shows me he has a gun, unless he points it at my wife, my kids, or me, I am not going to engage him.

Edit: Here is the article I read: http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/criminal/jury-finds-trevor-dooley-guilty-in-manslaughter-case/1262347

The bizarre nature of the dispute, they said, caused them to stop and watch. It quickly took a lethal turn.

They testified last week they saw Dooley flip up his T-shirt, revealing a gun in his waistband, as he cursed James. They said Dooley then turned and headed home, but James spun him around and tried to grab the gun.

from the linked article : The skateboarder, Spencer Arthur, also watched, stunned. He didn't see Dooley flash a gun but said he saw him pull out the weapon as he spun around.

accidental omission?

[Dan and Judy 614]

I've seen it happen here.

perhaps if you covered your face people would be so afraid of you