Illegal aliens murder

[one...two...tree 2,762]

What other non-felonous, but unlawful acts do you also call criminal?

i don't suppose drug dealing comes to your mind, does it?

keep making excuses for those who willingly break the law, steven.

um, Charles...that would be a 'felony'. Wanna try again? Come on...what other non-felonous acts do you call criminal?

steven, it's dependant on how much they have in their possession, is it not? ty for playing

Come on, Charles, just admit you've been cornered... you can't come up with any other non-felonous acts where you would call that person a criminal.

[mawilson 2,133]

LOL. That worked out nicely for me. But seriously, what I mean is that I don't understand telling people how to feel. As a non-mentally handicapped person, I don't feel that I have the right to tell one that he shouldn't be offended when I call him a retard.

Dammit, I can't even hate you. You're too nice and have way too much common sense.

[Ban Hammer 13,621]

What other non-felonous, but unlawful acts do you also call criminal?

i don't suppose drug dealing comes to your mind, does it?

keep making excuses for those who willingly break the law, steven.

um, Charles...that would be a 'felony'. Wanna try again? Come on...what other non-felonous acts do you call criminal?

steven, it's dependant on how much they have in their possession, is it not? ty for playing

Come on, Charles, just admit you've been cornered... you can't come up with any other non-felonous acts where you would call that person a criminal.

steven, your use of the term criminal is very narrow. mine is a bid broader. live with it.

while on the topic, in georgia you can:

Battery - O.C.G.A. 16-5-23.1

Occurs when one intentionally causes substantial physical harm or intentionally causes visible bodily harm to another.

Punishment: As a misdemeanor unless:

Second conviction for battery against the same victim. In such cases, the offense is a high and aggravated misdemeanor with 10 days to 12 months in prison, or $1,000.00 fine, or both.

Third conviction for battery against the same victim is a felony. This carries punishment of 1 to 5 years in prison.

so basically, you can punch out your neighbor twice, just not three times. and that's probably ok in your book as they are not a criminal still..........

link

[Scott & Lai 12]

But if every law was changed by working from the outside in, we wouldn't have civil rights laws, women wouldn't be voting, etc. All of these significant changes were made after people made huge sacrifices, physically (including death), mentally, emotionally to show the injustice of the laws they didn't agree with.

The survival of the American republic, Hamilton maintained, depends upon "the preservation of a national spirit and a national character.” "To admit foreigners indiscriminately to the rights of citizens, the moment they foot in our country would be nothing less than to admit the Grecian horse into the citadel of our liberty and sovereignty.”

We are not a nation of immigrants. We are first and foremost a nation of laws. The U.S. Constitution does not say that the paramount duty of government is to “Celebrate Diversity” or to “embrace multiculturalism” or to give “every willing worker” in the world a job. The Premable to the U.S. Constitution says the Constitution was established “to provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty.”

As our founding fathers recognized, fulfilling these fundamental duties is impossible without an orderly immigration and entrance system that discriminates in favor of those willing, as George Washington put it, to “get assimilated to our customs, measures, [and] laws.”

http://michellemalkin.com/archives/004840.htm

This is about as trustworthy as the original website the original topic of this thread was posted from. Anyone can take anyone's words and spin them how they choose, especially when they take bits & pieces to do so, especially out of context.

Ok, pretend you never saw where the article came from for a moment. Care to debate the content of the article, and state precisely what is false?

[one...two...tree 2,762]

But if every law was changed by working from the outside in, we wouldn't have civil rights laws, women wouldn't be voting, etc. All of these significant changes were made after people made huge sacrifices, physically (including death), mentally, emotionally to show the injustice of the laws they didn't agree with.

The survival of the American republic, Hamilton maintained, depends upon "the preservation of a national spirit and a national character.” "To admit foreigners indiscriminately to the rights of citizens, the moment they foot in our country would be nothing less than to admit the Grecian horse into the citadel of our liberty and sovereignty.”

We are not a nation of immigrants. We are first and foremost a nation of laws. The U.S. Constitution does not say that the paramount duty of government is to “Celebrate Diversity” or to “embrace multiculturalism” or to give “every willing worker” in the world a job. The Premable to the U.S. Constitution says the Constitution was established “to provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty.”

As our founding fathers recognized, fulfilling these fundamental duties is impossible without an orderly immigration and entrance system that discriminates in favor of those willing, as George Washington put it, to “get assimilated to our customs, measures, [and] laws.”

http://michellemalkin.com/archives/004840.htm

This is about as trustworthy as the original website the original topic of this thread was posted from. Anyone can take anyone's words and spin them how they choose, especially when they take bits & pieces to do so, especially out of context.

Ok, pretend you never saw where the article came from for a moment. Care to debate the content of the article, and state precisely what is false?

Because the very history of this country tells us otherwise.

[Jenn! 918]

LOL. That worked out nicely for me. But seriously, what I mean is that I don't understand telling people how to feel. As a non-mentally handicapped person, I don't feel that I have the right to tell one that he shouldn't be offended when I call him a retard.

Dammit, I can't even hate you. You're too nice and have way too much common sense.

Some might say I'm perfect.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

What other non-felonous, but unlawful acts do you also call criminal?

i don't suppose drug dealing comes to your mind, does it?

keep making excuses for those who willingly break the law, steven.

um, Charles...that would be a 'felony'. Wanna try again? Come on...what other non-felonous acts do you call criminal?

steven, it's dependant on how much they have in their possession, is it not? ty for playing

Come on, Charles, just admit you've been cornered... you can't come up with any other non-felonous acts where you would call that person a criminal.

steven, your use of the term criminal is very narrow. mine is a bid broader. live with it.

while on the topic, in georgia you can:

Battery - O.C.G.A. 16-5-23.1

Occurs when one intentionally causes substantial physical harm or intentionally causes visible bodily harm to another.

Punishment: As a misdemeanor unless:

Second conviction for battery against the same victim. In such cases, the offense is a high and aggravated misdemeanor with 10 days to 12 months in prison, or $1,000.00 fine, or both.

Third conviction for battery against the same victim is a felony. This carries punishment of 1 to 5 years in prison.

so basically, you can punch out your neighbor twice, just not three times. and that's probably ok in your book as they are not a criminal still..........

link

You align illegal immigration with violent acts? Your logic astounds me.

[Ban Hammer 13,621]

What other non-felonous, but unlawful acts do you also call criminal?

i don't suppose drug dealing comes to your mind, does it?

keep making excuses for those who willingly break the law, steven.

um, Charles...that would be a 'felony'. Wanna try again? Come on...what other non-felonous acts do you call criminal?

steven, it's dependant on how much they have in their possession, is it not? ty for playing

Come on, Charles, just admit you've been cornered... you can't come up with any other non-felonous acts where you would call that person a criminal.

steven, your use of the term criminal is very narrow. mine is a bid broader. live with it.

while on the topic, in georgia you can:

Battery - O.C.G.A. 16-5-23.1

Occurs when one intentionally causes substantial physical harm or intentionally causes visible bodily harm to another.

Punishment: As a misdemeanor unless:

Second conviction for battery against the same victim. In such cases, the offense is a high and aggravated misdemeanor with 10 days to 12 months in prison, or $1,000.00 fine, or both.

Third conviction for battery against the same victim is a felony. This carries punishment of 1 to 5 years in prison.

so basically, you can punch out your neighbor twice, just not three times. and that's probably ok in your book as they are not a criminal still..........

link

You align illegal immigration with violent acts? Your logic astounds me.

ah here you go again off on a tangent. you asked a question, it was answered, now enjoy looking foolish - again. hey you can always move to georgia and beat on someone not more than twice to take out your frustrations

[Sofiyya 1,687]

My rant:

Watch Lou Dobs on CNN. He's all over pro-illegals' azzes, and for good reason. I love Lou Dobbs, am in support of a border fence, arresting CEOS who hire illegals, pulling in the reins on the Catholic Church's tax exemption re their bleeding heart open borders stance, anti-sanctuary cities, reinterpretating the constitutional provision to end anchor babies for illegals, taking away their ability to get medical and educational benefits, and stepped up deportations. I want to see my tax dollars at work for US citizens and legal immigrants, not the Mexican government and greedy, exploitive employers!

No way I'm spending all this time and money on a legal visa, then turn around to support the business scum and illegals who are taking our jobs and lowering our standard of living. I live in Colorado where illegals run wild, kill cops, sell drugs, rape children, and drag women in the street behind trucks until dead. All had been arrested before. If these people want jobs, let them make their governments more responsive to them rather than mooching off of us. Haven't we learned anything about self-preservation!

Edited December 1, 2006 by szsz

[Ban Hammer 13,621]

My rant:

Watch Lou Dobs on CNN. He's all over pro-illegals' azzes, and for good reason. I love Lou Dobbs, am in support of a border fence, arresting CEOS who hire illegals, pulling in the reins on the Catholic Church's tax exemption re their bleeding heart open borders stance, anti-sanctuary cities, reinterpretating the constitutional provision to end anchor babies for illegals, taking away their ability to get medical and educational benefits, and stepped up deportations. I want to see my tax dollars at work for US citizens and legal immigrants, not the Mexican government and greedy, exploitive employers!

No way I'm spending all this time and money on a legal visa, then turn around to support the business scum and illegals who are taking our jobs and lowering our standard of living. I live in Colorado where illegals run wild, kill cops, sell drugs, rape children, and drag women in the street behind trucks until dead. All had been arrested before. If these people want jobs, let them make their governments more responsive to them rather than mooching off of us. Haven't we learned anything about self-preservation!

welcome to being a conservative.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

What other non-felonous, but unlawful acts do you also call criminal?

i don't suppose drug dealing comes to your mind, does it?

keep making excuses for those who willingly break the law, steven.

um, Charles...that would be a 'felony'. Wanna try again? Come on...what other non-felonous acts do you call criminal?

steven, it's dependant on how much they have in their possession, is it not? ty for playing

Come on, Charles, just admit you've been cornered... you can't come up with any other non-felonous acts where you would call that person a criminal.

steven, your use of the term criminal is very narrow. mine is a bid broader. live with it.

while on the topic, in georgia you can:

Battery - O.C.G.A. 16-5-23.1

Occurs when one intentionally causes substantial physical harm or intentionally causes visible bodily harm to another.

Punishment: As a misdemeanor unless:

Second conviction for battery against the same victim. In such cases, the offense is a high and aggravated misdemeanor with 10 days to 12 months in prison, or $1,000.00 fine, or both.

Third conviction for battery against the same victim is a felony. This carries punishment of 1 to 5 years in prison.

so basically, you can punch out your neighbor twice, just not three times. and that's probably ok in your book as they are not a criminal still..........

link

You align illegal immigration with violent acts? Your logic astounds me.

ah here you go again off on a tangent. you asked a question, it was answered, now enjoy looking foolish - again. hey you can always move to georgia and beat on someone not more than twice to take out your frustrations

Oye, Charles. Show a little honesty here. When I asked you what other non-felonous acts you consider criminal, you bring up Georgia's definition of when a misdemeanor becomes a felony. The fact remains - being here illegally is not a felony, nor is it criminal. You want to demonize illegal aliens by calling them criminal and lump them into that category that is traditionally reserved for the social deviants (drug dealers, wife beaters, thieves, etc.). Sorry, but I ain't buying into that twisted logic.

[mawilson 2,133]

Illegal aliens are only illegal until the laws are changed to legalise them. And believe me,

it WILL happen since we simply do not have the resources to deport 10-20 million people.

(Same goes for drug possession - what a BS crime!)

[Jenn! 918]

(Same goes for drug possession - what a BS crime!)

High Five!

[Killer_Clown_2009 0]

What I don't understand, is why the IRS encourages people working illegally in reporting their income and to pay taxes. The IRS is not allowed to report these people either. It seems that the Government is somewhat f...ed up when it does this. It's totally illogical. If the government was serious about catching and getting rid of all these people, it seems that it wouldn't be that hard to do it.

Edited December 1, 2006 by jane2005

[one...two...tree 2,762]

What I don't understand, is why the IRS encourages people working illegally in reporting their income and pay taxes. The IRS is not allowed to report these people either. It seems that the Government is somewhat f...ed up when it does this. It's totally illogical. If the government was serious about catching and getting rid of all these people, it seems that it wouldn't be that hard to do it.

Good point!