anyone confessed

[nobbie 105]

Has anyone had a "No trace" police report and still confessed to something from the dim and distant past, if so, how did it go down?

Do they ask why did you not say when you had an ESTA or visa previously?

[lost_at_sea 995]

Do you mean during a K1 interview?

[nobbie 105]

yes

[lost_at_sea 995]

Well, without having to tell us details, what happened?

If you have a police certificate with "No trace" then you're clean and you shouldn't have anything that requires disclosure.

If you get "No live trace" then you have something on the records that you should declare (and get a subject access report for). Lying about having no record then coming back with a "No Live Trace" certificate would be tricky.

[nobbie 105]

I have a "no trace" but when I applied for police cert I told them about something minor which happened 33 years ago. I called them and asked what it all meant and why no trace. nothing is there they said, you will get nothing on subject access either. very unlikely anything exists in the court records either.

It's stuff I had forgotten about until I filled out police form for cert.

I doubt they care about it as it was so long ago and minor.

However will they be bothered that I have had visas before and not mentioned it. never been asked though.

[lost_at_sea 995]

I have a "no trace" but when I applied for police cert I told them about something minor which happened 33 years ago. I called them and asked what it all meant and why no trace. nothing is there they said, you will get nothing on subject access either. very unlikely anything exists in the court records either.

It's stuff I had forgotten about until I filled out police form for cert.

I doubt they care about it as it was so long ago and minor.

However will they be bothered that I have had visas before and not mentioned it. never been asked though.

If you didn't get a caution or a charge, then there's gonna be nothing there for you to have to worry about.

I think it happens to people, particularly when they're young, they do something daft and minor, a police chap turns up and gives them a serious frown and a stern talking to, but never follow up officially, but they're left not really sure what happened.

[nobbie 105]

But I did get a fine, so it did. What I am after is not speculation, but info from someone who has done it. I know people have "no live trace" so they have to say something, so I am not worried about the conviction as it was minor and 33 years ago.

I have seen one guy here who had no trace but told them he had a conviction for driving with no insurance, they didnt care. But I assume he had been to the US on ESTA or visa but I do not know that.

[Nich-Nick 3,354]

How does anyone (Embassy, ESTA, CBP, USCIS) know about it unless you tell them? There is no written record.

[nobbie 105]

I believe that even though a search of the Police National Computer reveals nothing, that it may still be visible to the police. My mate applied for a liquor licence and it showed up on his CRB check. I think all things are held until you are deemed to have reached 100 yrs of age.

[Rebecca Jo 1,962]

I believe that even though a search of the Police National Computer reveals nothing, that it may still be visible to the police. My mate applied for a liquor licence and it showed up on his CRB check. I think all things are held until you are deemed to have reached 100 yrs of age.

Are you saying that you and your mate were both involved in the same incident many years ago, and that it shows up for him on a CRB check, but that it doesn't show up on your ACPO report?

[nobbie 105]

yes, not sure when he had his CRB though, a few years ago.

[Rebecca Jo 1,962]

yes, not sure when he had his CRB though, a few years ago.

Well, they are different systems (CRB/ACPO) and serve different purposes. (FYI, it looks like CRB has been merged into something different now:)

https://www.gov.uk/disclosure-barring-service-check/overview

Anywho, was this offense in Scotland or Northen Ireland?

[Rebecca Jo 1,962]

http://content.met.police.uk/Article/Frequently-asked-questions/1400006036048/1400006036048

The link above seems to suggest that you are correct in that the police possess records for a longer period of time.

I read about DBS disclosure, and my understanding would be the very nature of it is to "go deeper" than usual.

However, the reason DOS wants an ACPO is because it is supposed to disclose everything, including unspent convictions.

Confusing.

[nobbie 105]

DBS is for people who might work with children for instance.

I think you mean spent convictions.

[Rebecca Jo 1,962]

DBS is for people who might work with children for instance.

I think you mean spent convictions.

Yes, sorry I did mean spent convictions.

And yeah, because DBS is for people working with children, the check is deeper.