I-864 - Assets but no income

[himher 634]

The link

http://travel.state.gov/visa/immigrants/info/info_3183.html#6

What Cash Value of Assets is Needed?

The total net value of assets, less liens and liabilities against them, must equal five times the difference between the sponsor's income and 125% of the poverty level for the household size

Sponsors of spouses and children of U.S. citizens must only prove assets valued at three times the difference between the poverty guideline and actual household income.

Sponsors of orphans who will acquire citizenship after admission to the United States must only prove assets equal to the difference between the poverty guideline and actual household income.

What can be used as assets?

Assets easily convertible to cash can be savings, stocks, bonds and property.

Can the immigrant visa applicant count assets that he or she owns that are outside the United States, such as real estate or personal property?

Yes, under the following conditions:

• The assets must be convertible to cash within 12 months
• The applicant must show that the assets can be removed from the country where they are located. Many countries have limits on cash or liquid assets that can removed from the country
• The net value of assets is at least five times the difference between the sponsor's income and 125 percent of the poverty guideline for the household size.

[himher 634]

When I went for my interview they told me that property guideline is US income/assets they told me I needed 5 times because my husband (USC) live here in Australia with me and our money was classed as foreign income because my husband didnt have a job with US income. So we used the sale of our house.

And no your money doesn't have to be in a US bank account. As long as you do have the amount of money you need I. US dollars.

That is what they told me at the Consulate in Sydney.. so I am making this up or reading it somewhere

M.

That is not what they applied to our case in Saudi. We did not have 5X but we did have well over 3X.

If it is your assets (the applicant) it is 5X. If it is the USC's assets it is 3X. Again our assets were inside not outside of the US. Perhaps that is the reason.

Edited July 20, 2013 by himher

[Dbkrantz 16]

The link

http://travel.state.gov/visa/immigrants/info/info_3183.html#6

What Cash Value of Assets is Needed?

The total net value of assets, less liens and liabilities against them, must equal five times the difference between the sponsor's income and 125% of the poverty level for the household size

Sponsors of spouses and children of U.S. citizens must only prove assets valued at three times the difference between the poverty guideline and actual household income.

Sponsors of orphans who will acquire citizenship after admission to the United States must only prove assets equal to the difference between the poverty guideline and actual household income.

What can be used as assets?

Assets easily convertible to cash can be savings, stocks, bonds and property.

Can the immigrant visa applicant count assets that he or she owns that are outside the United States, such as real estate or personal property?

Yes, under the following conditions:

• The assets must be convertible to cash within 12 months
• The applicant must show that the assets can be removed from the country where they are located. Many countries have limits on cash or liquid assets that can removed from the country
• The net value of assets is at least five times the difference between the sponsor's income and 125 percent of the poverty guideline for the household size.

Okay, I am very confused by this link. It once says 3 times the 125% (because obviously I don't have income) and lower it says 5 times!

I don't have any cash limits in France or U.K. so that woudl not be a problem.

Edited July 21, 2013 by Dbkrantz

[himher 634]

Okay, I am very confused by this link. It once says 3 times the 125% (because obviously I don't have income) and lower it says 5 times!

I don't have any cash limits in France or U.K. so that woudl not be a problem.

The upper references the USC. The lower references the Immigrant Visa Applicant which is the non-USC.

[Dbkrantz 16]

Oh good point. Very good attention to detail! I didn't notice a thing.

So as a U.S. citizen I "just" need to prove that I have at least 3x the amount required. Well, I do at the moment. So I just need letters from the bank right?

[himher 634]

Oh good point. Very good attention to detail! I didn't notice a thing.

So as a U.S. citizen I "just" need to prove that I have at least 3x the amount required. Well, I do at the moment. So I just need letters from the bank right?

We filed DCF so that detail was relevant to our (and your) case. All I did was print out and attach bank statements to the I864.

Edited July 21, 2013 by himher

[Dbkrantz 16]

We filed DCF so that detail was relevant to our (and your) case. All I did was print out and attach bank statements to the I864.

Good. I will try to see what the "official way" of doing it is because I don't have any bank statements as of today.

Thanks a lot for your help!