Proof of on going relationship

[geff44 30]

I am about to submit the I 129F packet and have some questions/concerns regarding front loading the application since my fiancee is from the Philippines. So far I will include:

1. Facebook chats ( sampling of at least 2 to 3 per month) during the last 14 months of our relationship.

2. Facebook postings of 2 to 3 postings per month spanning 14 months.

3. Skype chat logs for the last 14 months.

4.Skype or Facetime pictures of us taken while we were Skyping (spanning different months in our relationship) and posted by my fiancee in facebook with the posting date showing.

5.A few emails, a few google voice calls showing a log of calls

6. Flowers and bear I sent my fiancee for Valentines day which she took a picture of her holding them. I am including receipt of it.

7. Two receipts from shipping company when I sent her some chocolates

8. About 40 pictures of us together. Most pictures were taken from our engagement party. While the rest were taken from the various places we visited together. I will also include pictures of us with her family and friends.

Is this enough or do I need to submit more evidence of our relationship? Can I include passport stamps , plane boarding passes , travel itinerary and hotel receipts and will they qualify as proof of on going relationship?

[Bugs 455]

Two important types of evidence should be submitted for the I-129f application for a beneficiary in the Philippines. Note the difference:

1. Primary evidence of having met in person within the past two years. This is required and very important to include. This is in the form of passport stamps, airline boarding passes, receipts of purchases made in your card or name while there, etc. Pictures can also be used to back this up.

2. Evidence of ongoing/genuine relationship. This is not required by the USCIS, and so their approval of your I-129f will not be dependent upon it. HOWEVER, the embassy in Manila will require this for the interview, and it has been advised by many on here to "frontload" their I-129f application to the USCIS ahead of time with this evidence (it will just be sent to the Manila embassy when the I-129f is sent). This gives the embassy a chance to go over your evidence and be "convinced" ahead of the time they interview, which can sometimes make a difference. This evidence includes all the chat/email evidence you listed, as well as some things I listed in my sample linked below.

Good luck, and let me or anyone else know if you have any further questions.

[Jose&Karolina 5]

You actually have it backwards. What you need to send now is proof of having met in the last 2 years, not ongoing relationship. What you HAVE TO INCLUDE NOW IS: "passport stamps , plane boarding passes , travel itinerary and hotel receipts" if you don't include all of those now it will be RFE'd. If you already included these things than sending all of that you listed before is not necessarily necessary, but it wont hurt.

Edited July 20, 2013 by Jose&Karolina

[geff44 30]

Yes I already have the proof of meeting and the necessary forms and they will be mailed together with the proof of ongoing relationship . Sorry if I was not clear about it. I followed the VJ guide including the cover letter. However at the end it says something about proof of ongoing relationship... although it is not necessary and not required by USCIS at this stage it might be helpful to frontload that is why I am asking if I can use again the passport stamps , our plane boarding passes, hotel etc. to show that there is an ongoing relationship that is why I am travelling with her.

Edited July 20, 2013 by geff44

[Bugs 455]

Yes I already have the proof of meeting and the necessary forms . I followed the VJ guide including the cover letter. However at the end it says something about proof of ongoing relationship... although it is not necessary and not required by USCIS at this stage it might be helpful to frontload that is why I am asking if I can use again the passport stamps , our plane boarding passes, hotel etc. to show that there is an ongoing relationship that is why I am travelling with her.

Well you are already including it as proof of meeting, so there is no need to "use it again" (i.e. make 2 copies of it). It will all be there for the embassy to look at.

[Ning 619]

You actually have it backwards. What you need to send now is proof of having met in the last 2 years, not ongoing relationship. What you HAVE TO INCLUDE NOW IS: "passport stamps , plane boarding passes , travel itinerary and hotel receipts" if you don't include all of those now it will be RFE'd. If you already included these things than sending all of that you listed before is not necessarily necessary, but it wont hurt.

Agreed.

The problem with sending in a mountain of info that isn't required is the length of time it adds to the case. When this is done no one should complain that the case is taking too long. Someone has to go thru all of this to get to the important docs they need.

See what L & M had to add. Makes more sense.

[geff44 30]

Well you are already including it as proof of meeting, so there is no need to "use it again" (i.e. make 2 copies of it). It will all be there for the embassy to look at.

Lol . I am ####### retentive about things so I just want to make sure that the adjudicator do not miss anything when he/she starts reviewing my petition. Thanks for the responses.

[Bugs 455]

Lol . I am ####### retentive about things so I just want to make sure that the adjudicator do not miss anything when he/she starts reviewing my petition. Thanks for the responses.

####### retentiveness is an advantage to have for things like this. I know all about it lol.

[cjmc 10]

I believe that "Quality" is better than "Quantity"..... Pick some important messages over time, highlight important words, feelings, ideas with a yellow highlighter.

Make it easy to read and easy to understand what you are trying to communicate....I think reams of information will only cause the reader to glance over the information because there is to much, and then not grasp your point.....try and get your point across quickly and easily...

Just my thoughts...

Good luck !!!

Cheers,

cjmc

[cjmc 10]

It is really important to label your pictures of important events, with family.....etc with dates and names clearly marked...

cjmc

[Netsikai 20]

I would suggest to include every page of ur passport highlighting the entry/arrival and exit/departure of your trip...also include where the picture was taken, date and the name of the people in the pics.

[ashlie77 0]

Hey... How you take proof of google voice calls????

Thanxxx in advance....

[Andrea&Henry 311]

I 100% agree with the vj member who said "quality" over "Quantity". I've my personal opinion about frontloading the I129. I think is not necesary to send 14 month of the same thing. Try to make it easier for the USCIS staff member who is going to process your package. Once yoy have the k1 interview, frontload whatever you want. But overwhelm the staff is not smart at all. Just sendong copies of boarding passes, maybe a week of fb log (conversation), 15 pics, some emails and phone call bills are more than enough. Besides you will need fresh evidence by the moment of the interview so I wouldn't use all my "bullets" in the same duck. Try to leave the rest for your interview. I sent basically what I just mention and I was approved in 3 month and no RFE. For my interview I brough tons of stuff but they never asked me to see nor a single pic and I was approved quick.

[geff44 30]

Hey... How you take proof of google voice calls????

Thanxxx in advance....

My fiancee has a google mail account and it displays her cell number on same page with her email and pics. I printed this and highlighted that number. For my calls to her using google voice, all I did was print the pages using the browser print option. I highlighted all calls I made with her number and wrote an explanation about it.

[geff44 30]

Thanks for all the tips. I will try to condensed my proof to a more manageable size. I have also some Xoom and Western Union receipts of money I sent my fiancee during her birthday and other special occasions. Should I send copies of these or hold off until the CO asks for it during the interview?