Conservatives donate more than Liberal

[Hilarious Clinton 452]

Liberals...

[Heracles 417]

That's hardly scientific. What is this unnamed "Conservative City"? How can you be sure the people donating in one box were conservative and the other liberal?

Oh, I'm sorry, I used the "S" word. Xtian conservatives don't like that word, just like they don't like the "E" word.

Why would Christians be against science?

To be honest one of the main reasons my beliefs shifted center-right is because of seeing how selfish so many liberals I know are. Quite a few people I know living in NY and CA are obsessed with what they are driving or what they are wearing or what he/she said or about making money or about about how they look or what surgery they can spend $10K to $20K on to make themselves look better.

I myself lived the liberal lifestyle for quite a while. Going to clubs like Studio 54 in Vegas for example and running up $2k tabs. One day it just hit me. I thought there must be more to life than this #######. More than a life of me me me me and me.

Anyway most conservatives who give their time and money do not do it for the publicity or recognition from others.

Edited November 30, 2006 by Infidel

[one...two...tree 2,762]

maybe, the conservatives have a gulity conscious and trying to buy a ticket into heaven

My conscious is clear. I just think it feels good to help others. I don't like it forced on me by punitive taxes though.

So which current 'charities' that the federal government provides to people do you think we should do away with?

Welfare for one. Nothing wrong with a short term help for someone that's down but as a way of life it sucks.

But the general argument made here was that Conservatives want charity to be voluntary and now you're saying short term help (charity) from the government isn't wrong. I agree that it should be a short term thing. What gets me is the intellectual dishonesty here that suggests that it's simply an issue of voluntary vs. mandatory (in the form of taxation).

[Heracles 417]

But the general argument made here was that Conservatives want charity to be voluntary and now you're saying short term help (charity) from the government isn't wrong. I agree that it should be a short term thing. What gets me is the intellectual dishonesty here that suggests that it's simply an issue of voluntary vs. mandatory (in the form of taxation).

The issue here is that liberals expect the government to donate to charities, while conservatives prefer to donate their own time and money..

[one...two...tree 2,762]

The moral of the story here is that your average liberal/s lecture and blog a bunch of BS about being for the people, for the average Joe, for the poor etc. In reality they solely look after their own ### yet make it out as if Republicans represent money, corporations and greed.

Con of the century..

Yes, the liberal mindset is by default hypocritical...oye. Pssst... I heard Conservatives have a higher chance for catching rabies...go figure.

For a guy who advocates national healthcare, you certainly don't align completely with the Right.

[Heracles 417]

Yes, the liberal mindset is by default hypocritical...oye. Pssst... I heard Conservatives have a higher chance for catching rabies...go figure.

For a guy who advocates national healthcare, you certainly don't align completely with the Right.

I would say I am center-right. I also agree with higher taxes to pay for the improvement of the country's run down infrastructure such as:

• schools
  
• roads
  
• and the cleaning up of trashy neighborhoods
  

Edited November 30, 2006 by Infidel

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Yes, the liberal mindset is by default hypocritical...oye. Pssst... I heard Conservatives have a higher chance for catching rabies...go figure.

For a guy who advocates national healthcare, you certainly don't align completely with the Right.

I would say I am center-right. I also agree with higher taxes to pay for the improvement of the country's run down infrastructure such as:

• schools
  
• roads
  
• and the cleaning up of trashy neighborhoods
  

...and national healthcare (according to your previous posts) which puts you at odds with those on the Right.

The argument presented here is that those on the Right believe charity should be voluntary and that those on the Left want to tax the populace to pay for welfare services. I think I've made my point using both you and Gary, as examples that are NOT consistent with that argument.

[Peikko 1,575]

There maybe some statistical evidence that 'republicans' give more than 'liberals' That does not give every republican the right to gloat or to bad mouth all 'liberals' The labels to me are ridiculous anyway.

The point about charitable contributions should be that they are between you and your conscience.

OP, what is your point exactly? I read an entire article which referenced the book "In Who Really Cares: The Surprising Truth About Compassionate Conservatism by Arthur C. Brooks where the predominant point was the giving to charities was more to do with religion than politics. (To be noted, he is an adherent to the Catholic faith)

"Most of the difference in giving among conservatives and liberals gets back to religion. Religious liberals give nearly as much as religious conservatives, Mr. Brooks found. And secular conservatives are even less generous than secular liberals"..."

What I find disappointing is that if this is true having a charitable mind set is linked to religion. How sad.

[Trompe le Monde 1,107]

My mother does a lot of charitable work (probably more than anyone I know) and donates 10% of her income to charity. Because she does this through the auspices of the Catholic Church it would probably label her a "conservative" in these studies but she is a dyed-in-the-wool Democrat.

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That's hardly scientific. What is this unnamed "Conservative City"? How can you be sure the people donating in one box were conservative and the other liberal?

Oh, I'm sorry, I used the "S" word. Xtian conservatives don't like that word, just like they don't like the "E" word.

Why would Christians be against science?

To be honest one of the main reasons my beliefs shifted center-right is because of seeing how selfish so many liberals I know are. Quite a few people I know living in NY and CA are obsessed with what they are driving or what they are wearing or what he/she said or about making money or about about how they look or what surgery they can spend $10K to $20K on to make themselves look better.

I myself lived the liberal lifestyle for quite a while. Going to clubs like Studio 54 in Vegas for example and running up $2k tabs. One day it just hit me. I thought there must be more to life than this #######. More than a life of me me me me and me.

Anyway most conservatives who give their time and money do not do it for the publicity or recognition from others.

And yet someone comes here to toot the horn of the conservative republican!!! So what part of the above bold and underline statment is just a bit hypocritical!!

Helping people through rough times is a human thing not a party or lable thing. You either get it or you do not. I could care less what lable you slap on your A$$ either help people or don't. The people who benefit from these programs could probably give a rats A$$ about liberal, conservative, repub, dem. They care about putting food on the table and a roof over their head.

[Heracles 417]

Anyway most conservatives who give their time and money do not do it for the publicity or recognition from others.

And yet someone comes here to toot the horn of the conservative republican!!! So what part of the above bold and underline statment is just a bit hypocritical!!

No one is tooting no horn here.. It is clear that liberals talk about the average Joe, the poor etc when in reality their actions suggest the contrary.

Like dumbass Michael Moore and his footage of Flint Michigan. What has he done or donated to better the lives of people in that community? Zilch

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Funny how the usual liberal VJ crowd are always lost for words when it comes to stuff like this.

I'm not responding because you are generalizing about what I am as a liberal so I don't feel the need to explain to you where you're wrong and where this report is wrong.

[Heracles 417]

My mother does a lot of charitable work (probably more than anyone I know) and donates 10% of her income to charity. Because she does this through the auspices of the Catholic Church it would probably label her a "conservative" in these studies but she is a dyed-in-the-wool Democrat.

This is a problem with idiots in the US. Why is a republican automatically labeled a conservative and a Democrat automatically labeled a liberal?

I would say I am center-right. I also agree with higher taxes to pay for the improvement of the country's run down infrastructure such as:

• schools
  
• roads
  
• and the cleaning up of trashy neighborhoods
  

...and national healthcare (according to your previous posts) which puts you at odds with those on the Right.

I still stand by a national or state based 'basic' healthcare system, which could come in a form of subsidized health insurance... This is a complicated issue as the illegal immigrants alone could bankrupt such a proposed system.

Edited November 30, 2006 by Infidel

[Trompe le Monde 1,107]

This is a problem with idiots in the US. Why is a republican automatically labeled a conservative and a Democrat automatically labeled a liberal?

I don't know but these seem to be labels you use a lot.

The Death Penalty and the Iraqi war are vehemently opposed by the Catholic Chruch -- does this make them liberals?

[one...two...tree 2,762]

This is a problem with idiots in the US. Why is a republican automatically labeled a conservative and a Democrat automatically labeled a liberal?

I don't know but these seem to be labels you use a lot.

It'd sure be nice to discuss issues on their own merits and not divide them along imaginary ideological lines.