ref requesting mor proof of divorces

[cowboy333 3]

Hello everyone,

I need some help we got a ref for more proof of divorces I sent the cerf. from the stat. on record in Frankfort KY. not enough evidence they say. ok I have copies of the decree's. no problem. the problem is I also sent the certf. from the Ukraine had them translated. they want more evidence of these divorces I can not get Vita to understand what else we need. I do not know what papers the use or anything about divorce in the Ukraine. so if any one can help I would be very happy. and thanks

[Penguin_ie 5,993]

So both you and your fiance were married before and divorced?

What exactly does the RFE say?

[Kristi95 0]

Embassy in Ukraine doesn't require any documents which are in Russian or Ukrainian to be translated, so that's not the problem. I know "must" is that your fiancee also brings her marriage certificate from her previous marriage in addition to her divorce certificate/decree. Maybe that's what they want now? Also maybe if she has underage child they want to see the whole divorce decree, not just a certificate? Those are just my guesses of what they want.

[cowboy333 3]

So both you and your fiance were married before and divorced?

What exactly does the RFE say?

Request for evidence: submit proof of the legal termination of the marriages of both marriages me and x wife names and the x-husbands name and my fiancé

such proof would normally be a final absolute divorce decree, death certifice , annulment ect. inorder for the legal termination of marraiges to be considered valid for immigration purposes it must have been registered with a note a divorce nisi is not considered to be evidence of a final divorce

[cowboy333 3]

Embassy in Ukraine doesn't require any documents which are in Russian or Ukrainian to be translated, so that's not the problem. I know "must" is that your fiancee also brings her marriage certificate from her previous marriage in addition to her divorce certificate/decree. Maybe that's what they want now? Also maybe if she has underage child they want to see the whole divorce decree, not just a certificate? Those are just my guesses of what they want.

this is for the uscis for aprovel of the right to go to embassy. her son is 23 we submitted the zagas papers with our i129f I am tring to figure it out

[Kristi95 0]

i am not sure we have such a thing as a divorce nisi in Ukraine. Can it be that your divorce in USA isn't final yet? Maybe you got divorce lately and they mean it can be appealed or what? Or maybe after court your attorneys hasn't signed the final still? I heard that in USA you have to wait for half a year after divorce to be eligible for new marriage. I will ask my fiance later today as this sounds strange.

[Tanya and Barry 59]

There is really only one type of divorce document issued by Ukraine. It is a simple one page document.

[NikLR 13,227]

if it is the USC petitioner, make sure you sent in a copy of all your final divorce decrees and that you are past any waiting periods that is required by your state. You need to make sure you were free to marry when you sent in the petition.

For the Ukraine someone also answered this, the simple one page document, which would have needed a translation most likely.

[FrozenGlitter 1]

i am not sure we have such a thing as a divorce nisi in Ukraine. Can it be that your divorce in USA isn't final yet? Maybe you got divorce lately and they mean it can be appealed or what? Or maybe after court your attorneys hasn't signed the final still? I heard that in USA you have to wait for half a year after divorce to be eligible for new marriage. I will ask my fiance later today as this sounds strange.

No, every state has it's own divorce laws. For instance, I am in KS and you can remarry here after 30 days. They'd have to check what the laws regarding remarriage in KY are.

[Harpa Timsah 13,258]

Information on what they are looking for:

Ukraine Divorce Certificates

Available: YES

Fees: up to UAH 8.5 (~ USD 1) for original issuance;

Document Name: Svidotstvo pro rozirvannya shlyubu

Issuing Government Authority: District or regional State registration of civil status offices

Special Seal(s)/Color/Format: All kinds of divorce certificates issued on the territory of present Ukraine are accepted. All of them bear a wet seal and a signature of the executive officer of the issuing authority.

Issuing Authority Personnel Title: Department Head of the State registration of civil status office

Registration Criteria: Defined by Family Code of Ukraine; after July 27, 2010 the certificate is issued only to the couples without minor children or if one spouse is properly qualified as missing or incompetent.

Procedure for Obtaining: depends on the article of Family Code under which the marriage is terminated but in general the procedure is similar to that of obtaining a birth certificate.

More at http://travel.state.gov/visa/fees/fees_5455.html?cid=9668#docs

Edited July 20, 2013 by Harpa Timsah

[cowboy333 3]

Information on what they are looking for:

Ukraine Divorce Certificates

Available: YES

Fees: up to UAH 8.5 (~ USD 1) for original issuance;

Document Name: Svidotstvo pro rozirvannya shlyubu

Issuing Government Authority: District or regional State registration of civil status offices

Special Seal(s)/Color/Format: All kinds of divorce certificates issued on the territory of present Ukraine are accepted. All of them bear a wet seal and a signature of the executive officer of the issuing authority.

Issuing Authority Personnel Title: Department Head of the State registration of civil status office

Registration Criteria: Defined by Family Code of Ukraine; after July 27, 2010 the certificate is issued only to the couples without minor children or if one spouse is properly qualified as missing or incompetent.

Procedure for Obtaining: depends on the article of Family Code under which the marriage is terminated but in general the procedure is similar to that of obtaining a birth certificate.

More at http://travel.state.gov/visa/fees/fees_5455.html?cid=9668#docs

[cowboy333 3]

thank you. I had them with the wet seal. my translator did not have a notary stamp on the copies. live and learn but you confirmed I have the right papers