In 513 Days Between Trayvon Shooting and Zimmerman Verdict, 11,106 Blacks Murdered by OTHER BLACKS

[Karee 4,191]

You think poor people stay poor because they like it?

It's a lifestyle. If that's all you know, it's not about liking it or not liking it.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

It's a lifestyle. If that's all you know, it's not about liking it or not liking it.

My comment was in response to Gary saying the way it is is the way "they" like it. I was looking for a bit of clarification on that.

[slim 1,533]

Pay disparity comes from type of work and negotiations. That's why men also make more than women. It isn't racist, it isn't sexist, it's simply an interaction between an employee and an employer.

If you want to talk about racist hiring policies, lets start with affirmative action. Folks are preferentially hired based on nothing more than the colorof their skin. You can't discriminate based on skin color but somehow it makes sense to give preference?

When you tell people they're inferior and need "extra" help to get hired, you've set the standard of inferiority for them. No wonder they have so much difficulty negotiating equal pay. Once again, you folks are "feeding the animals" and making them forget how to hunt.

[RGinWA 816]

All the race problems have been solved...nice going people. Break time.

[Ban Hammer 13,803]

http://money.cnn.com/2012/06/21/news/economy/wealth-gap-race/index.htm

the above link does not support your earlier claim.

[GandD 5,966]

http://money.cnn.com/2012/06/21/news/economy/wealth-gap-race/index.htm

Ah, it is in general. Which as I said goes farther than equal pay for the same jobs. Hiring practices, access to post secondary schools, cultural attitudes towards post secondary schools, drugs, police profiling all have something to do with those numbers.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

You said in the same job.. That is a big different story

A job applicant with a name that sounds like it might belong to an African-American - say, Lakisha Washington or Jamal Jones - can find it harder to get a job. Despite laws against discrimination, affirmative action, a degree of employer enlightenment, and the desire by some businesses to enhance profits by hiring those most qualified regardless of race, African-Americans are twice as likely as whites to be unemployed and they earn nearly 25 percent less when they are employed.

http://www.nber.org/digest/sep03/w9873.html

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Pay disparity comes from type of work and negotiations. That's why men also make more than women. It isn't racist, it isn't sexist, it's simply an interaction between an employee and an employer.

If you want to talk about racist hiring policies, lets start with affirmative action. Folks are preferentially hired based on nothing more than the colorof their skin. You can't discriminate based on skin color but somehow it makes sense to give preference?

When you tell people they're inferior and need "extra" help to get hired, you've set the standard of inferiority for them. No wonder they have so much difficulty negotiating equal pay. Once again, you folks are "feeding the animals" and making them forget how to hunt.

Did you miss my first post? I said you can get rid of it, but you need to stop discriminating against folks with ethnic sounding names that are just as qualified if not more.

the above link does not support your earlier claim.

Check my latest post.

[GandD 5,966]

A job applicant with a name that sounds like it might belong to an African-American - say, Lakisha Washington or Jamal Jones - can find it harder to get a job. Despite laws against discrimination, affirmative action, a degree of employer enlightenment, and the desire by some businesses to enhance profits by hiring those most qualified regardless of race, African-Americans are twice as likely as whites to be unemployed and they earn nearly 25 percent less when they are employed.

http://www.nber.org/digest/sep03/w9873.html

I heard a black woman on tv talking about how it was common practice for black people with stereo typical black names to use their middle name (assuming its not as obviously black) on their resume so as to not be looked over immediately.

Marvin, do you have kids? If you plan to have them, what do you think about making the choice to name your child a culturally significant name vs a name that might not get their resume passed over? As in, is your child's chances in an unjust world more important than trying to change the unjust world.

[Harsh_77 718]

http://www.nber.org/digest/sep03/w9873.html

There are quite a few articles on this subject, I have friends here that went throught it as well. They had to use their middle names to get jobs.

You can find research on anytopic you pick... does not mean they are all correct.

Lot of these research numbers are skewed by the researchers to fulfill their criteria.

Skill and experience does matter... all these years I have worked in tech and manag area, I have not come across where the candidate was rejected based on the name nor I have come across a situation where pay offered was based on the race.

The article you posted from Money is completely different it does not show the pay difference for the same job.

[RGinWA 816]

I heard a black woman on tv talking about how it was common practice for black people with stereo typical black names to use their middle name (assuming its not as obviously black) on their resume so as to not be looked over immediately.

Marvin, do you have kids? If you plan to have them, what do you think about making the choice to name your child a culturally significant name vs a name that might not get their resume passed over? As in, is your child's chances in an unjust world more important than trying to change the unjust world.

A name on an application is a determining factor for some reason, even with a president named Barack.

I wanted to give my son a traditional family name but my ex talked me out of YouLazyLittle$hit. I guess it was a good call.

[mota bhai 2,675]

A name on an application is a determining factor for some reason, even with a president named Barack.

I wanted to give my son a traditional family name but my ex talked me out of YouLazyLittle$hit. I guess it was a good call.

Not just black people. There are ethnic whites where I work who have very ethnic sounding first names (think Hungarian Jew) but nice Murkin middle names. They all go by their middle name. The only way you'd ever even know there is a first name is when you do an LDAP lookup or something.

[GandD 5,966]

Not just black people. There are ethnic whites where I work who have very ethnic sounding first names (think Hungarian Jew) but nice Murkin middle names. They all go by their middle name. The only way you'd ever even know there is a first name is when you do an LDAP lookup or something.

An LDAP look up. Nice.

[dalegg 143]

On a side note, isn't it a bit ironic that Jackie Robinson was supposed to play his first baseball game with white players in Sanford, Florida but the city wouldn't allow it?

[Teddy B 17,252]

On a side note, isn't it a bit ironic that Jackie Robinson was supposed to play his first baseball game with white players in Sanford, Florida but the city wouldn't allow it?

No