How to send AOS and IV Package using OPTIN email

[A_Singh 21]

Hello All.

Quick questions that would do me a big favor. So my OPTIN email is accepted and we are ready to send our AOS and IV package. Also our AOS and IV fees have been PAID.

Questions

1 - Do me(Beneficiary) and my wife(Petitioner) need to send two seperate emails to NVC. i.e. My wife sends AOS package using her email address (that we asked to add to the NVC communication) and I send out a seperate Package (IV Package) using my email address

OR

2 - Can either of us send the entire package from 1 email address (mine - as we sent the OPTIN email from my address)

3. I'm assuming in both cases, my wife has to send me the original copies of the AOS Package - Is that correct.

Thanks in appreciation!

Singh

[NikLR 13,232]

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I sent both the AOS and the IV package from my email.

You will the need the original signed I-864 but not the supporting evidence. They have all of that from the email.

[A_Singh 21]

Thanks! Did you send 1 email or two seperate ones.

[NikLR 13,232]

Mine, I'm the beneficiary. Everything was sent from my email. I made the PDF and just had my husband scan and send everything to me for the AOS.

[A_Singh 21]

Mine, I'm the beneficiary. Everything was sent from my email. I made the PDF and just had my husband scan and send everything to me for the AOS.

Again, the same question - did u send 1 email with 1 attachment (Both AOS and IV Package) or 2 emails ( 1 for AOS and 1 for IV Package).

Sorry for being so dumb

[A_Singh 21]

Any replies ?

[sumit381 2]

I am the petitioner so I sent the AOS package as a PDF attachment from my email address. I originally sent the OPTIN email from my email address. I sent the IV package (again as a PDF attachment) from my beneficiary's email address. But I don't think it really matters if you send it from the petitioner's or the beneficiary's if you gave them both correct email addresses at the beginning of the NVC process. They should have both your addresses on file. You can also call them and ask them to make sure they have both your email addresses on file before submitting the email - if you want. I just got my case approval today (called them).

I will be going to the interview with my wife (beneficiary) so I will basically take originals (as well as a copy of the originals) of everything I submitted just in case. That includes i130, AOS package, IV package, medical results, etc. May be overkill but worst case scenario, I just bring them back with me. Hope for the best, plan for the worst.

Hope that helps.

[A_Singh 21]

Thank You Sumit! That helps a lot. I plan on doing the same, My wife (Petitioner) will submit the AOS package from her email address, she will then mail the originals to me to take to the interview, And then I (Beneficiary) will email the IV package myself and again take the originals to interview.

Also, I don't think my wife will attend the interview to come to Canada, so i will go myself. Also i will take copies of all the documents and medicals(if asked to do so).

Thanks!

[NikLR 13,232]

I sent both of them. My about me on my profile and timeline shows when they were sent. IV package was March 31 and AOS was April 4. I did everything for this immigration essentially, my husband paid the bills and got documents I told him we needed.

I took everything from both packages to the interview but only needed to show them my originals and they took the original I-864ez. I did not take the I-130 but I saw my file while I was there at the interview and they had everything from start to finish in it. Read the Montreal reviews as well. There are some pretty thorough ones.

The medical comes in an envelope which they take (gave me back the top sheets and the xrays) of which you do not open.

Edited July 16, 2013 by NikiR

[A_Singh 21]

Thanks, alos we are super confused about which form to use for i864.

Just a background information, my wife just graduated from medical school so she did not file taxes for the past 3-4 years. She just got an internship that will pay her for the next 3 years. Therefore, we asked her sister (my sister in law) to be an additional household sponsor. She provided us with tax papers and everything.

Now - (Correct me if I'm wrong) - My wife fills i864 (NOT EZ), and we are also getting i864A filled by her sister (who lives at the same address). along with her tax papers

the additional documents we are submitting are, a copy of publication from IRS (501) that states, since there was low income for my wife, and she was a student, she did not file taxes

is that correct. We are also super confused about 864, 864A or 864 EZ. Please advise

[sumit381 2]

Thanks, alos we are super confused about which form to use for i864.

Just a background information, my wife just graduated from medical school so she did not file taxes for the past 3-4 years. She just got an internship that will pay her for the next 3 years. Therefore, we asked her sister (my sister in law) to be an additional household sponsor. She provided us with tax papers and everything.

Now - (Correct me if I'm wrong) - My wife fills i864 (NOT EZ), and we are also getting i864A filled by her sister (who lives at the same address). along with her tax papers

the additional documents we are submitting are, a copy of publication from IRS (501) that states, since there was low income for my wife, and she was a student, she did not file taxes

is that correct. We are also super confused about 864, 864A or 864 EZ. Please advise

Go to this page which has the criteria for which i864 needs to used.

http://travel.state.gov/visa/immigrants/info/info_3197.html

Read through all the boxes and see which applies to you.

[NikLR 13,232]

Thanks, alos we are super confused about which form to use for i864.

Just a background information, my wife just graduated from medical school so she did not file taxes for the past 3-4 years. She just got an internship that will pay her for the next 3 years. Therefore, we asked her sister (my sister in law) to be an additional household sponsor. She provided us with tax papers and everything.

Now - (Correct me if I'm wrong) - My wife fills i864 (NOT EZ), and we are also getting i864A filled by her sister (who lives at the same address). along with her tax papers

the additional documents we are submitting are, a copy of publication from IRS (501) that states, since there was low income for my wife, and she was a student, she did not file taxes

is that correct. We are also super confused about 864, 864A or 864 EZ. Please advise

Unless your wife and her sister need to combine their incomes, your wife should sign a completed I-864 and her sister should sign a completed I-864. If your wife did not do her taxes for whatever reason (there is a benefit to doing taxes while in school) then she needs to state in a letter why she didn't file taxes. Also both should provide proof of their current income with pay stubs and/or a letter from employer. The sister will also need to provide a photocopy of her birth certificate, naturalization certificate or entire passport to prove citizenship. I suggest that your wife makes a very clear cover page for the AOS and sends everything in the same PDF file if possible. Saylin has a suggestion for shrinking the file that works quite well in her wiki.

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We used the I-864ez because my husband met all the qualifications on it.

[A_Singh 21]

Unless your wife and her sister need to combine their incomes, your wife should sign a completed I-864 and her sister should sign a completed I-864. If your wife did not do her taxes for whatever reason (there is a benefit to doing taxes while in school) then she needs to state in a letter why she didn't file taxes. Also both should provide proof of their current income with pay stubs and/or a letter from employer. The sister will also need to provide a photocopy of her birth certificate, naturalization certificate or entire passport to prove citizenship. I suggest that your wife makes a very clear cover page for the AOS and sends everything in the same PDF file if possible. Saylin has a suggestion for shrinking the file that works quite well in her wiki.

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We used the I-864ez because my husband met all the qualifications on it.

Unless your wife and her sister need to combine their incomes, your wife should sign a completed I-864 and her sister should sign a completed I-864. - What do you mean by combing income, If my wife's sister fills out i864A are we combining income ? My wife has an income in mid 50k per year as she is a resident doctor, and my wife's sister is in the same range (late 50s).

If your wife did not do her taxes for whatever reason (there is a benefit to doing taxes while in school) then she needs to state in a letter why she didn't file taxes. Also both should provide proof of their current income with pay stubs and/or a letter from employer. - Yes we have stated in a letter saying that since was in school she did not file taxes. We are attaching a copy of the IRS Publication 501 saying that her income was below 9k per year something. And we are also attaching a copy of the contract by the Hospital, a letter from the Program Director saying that she will be employed for the next 3 years with the same salary and also a copy of her latest paycheques. She only has 2 as she started in June

The sister will also need to provide a photocopy of her birth certificate, naturalization certificate or entire passport to prove citizenship. - Yes, we are providing a copy of her birth certificate, passport and naturatlization certificate to prove relationship. - Thanks for this.

I suggest that your wife makes a very clear cover page for the AOS and sends everything in the same PDF file if possible. Saylin has a suggestion for shrinking the file that works quite well in her wiki. - Yes, Noted that

Go to this page which has the criteria for which i864 needs to used.

http://travel.state.gov/visa/immigrants/info/info_3197.html

Read through all the boxes and see which applies to you.

So I read that post but the last piece confuses me. It says

All three of the following are true:

• You filed a Form I-130 petition, for your relative - This is true in our case
• There is only one applicant on the Form I-130 petition, and - This is also true in our case
• All your qualifying income comes from a salary or pension and shows on one or more W-2 Forms that you receive - This one confuses us, it says all your qualifying income, we have i864 for my wife and i864a for her sister filled. Again my wife just got a job, so we have her offer letter, recent paystub copy. But does this stand true to us. My wife does not has any W2 form and does not had any salary and got pension,

Therefore I'm not sure if the third one is TRUE for us. Any inputs ?

[sumit381 2]

So I read that post but the last piece confuses me. It says

All three of the following are true:

• You filed a Form I-130 petition, for your relative - This is true in our case
• There is only one applicant on the Form I-130 petition, and - This is also true in our case
• All your qualifying income comes from a salary or pension and shows on one or more W-2 Forms that you receive - This one confuses us, it says all your qualifying income, we have i864 for my wife and i864a for her sister filled. Again my wife just got a job, so we have her offer letter, recent paystub copy. But does this stand true to us. My wife does not has any W2 form and does not had any salary and got pension,

Therefore I'm not sure if the third one is TRUE for us. Any inputs ?

The way I interpret that is your wife's qualifying income is what you show to be within their required guidelines. In your case, your sister-in-law is being added to the AOS to show enough income (for the last 3 years). In that case, your wife can't file the i864EZ because "ALL your qualifying income" is not received by your wife alone. Her sister received part of the income that you are showing to meet the guideline. And furthermore, did your wife earn any income she earns now from her job in the 2012 tax year (or any of the 3 previous years)? Since your wife just got a job (assuming recently in 2013), it wouldn't even show in the last 3 tax years. That's more of a reason to not qualify your wife for that 3rd condition of i864EZ.

Since only 2 conditons are true for you case, your wife can't file the i864EZ.

I'm not an expert in this matter, so hopefully someone smarter can give you a better answer. If you don't get a satifactory answer, it's always a good idea to consult with an immigration attorney if you have any doubts.

Good luck.

[NikLR 13,232]

Unless your wife and her sister need to combine their incomes, your wife should sign a completed I-864 and her sister should sign a completed I-864. - What do you mean by combing income, If my wife's sister fills out i864A are we combining income ? My wife has an income in mid 50k per year as she is a resident doctor, and my wife's sister is in the same range (late 50s).

If your wife did not do her taxes for whatever reason (there is a benefit to doing taxes while in school) then she needs to state in a letter why she didn't file taxes. Also both should provide proof of their current income with pay stubs and/or a letter from employer. - Yes we have stated in a letter saying that since was in school she did not file taxes. We are attaching a copy of the IRS Publication 501 saying that her income was below 9k per year something. And we are also attaching a copy of the contract by the Hospital, a letter from the Program Director saying that she will be employed for the next 3 years with the same salary and also a copy of her latest paycheques. She only has 2 as she started in June

The sister will also need to provide a photocopy of her birth certificate, naturalization certificate or entire passport to prove citizenship. - Yes, we are providing a copy of her birth certificate, passport and naturatlization certificate to prove relationship. - Thanks for this.

I suggest that your wife makes a very clear cover page for the AOS and sends everything in the same PDF file if possible. Saylin has a suggestion for shrinking the file that works quite well in her wiki. - Yes, Noted that

So I read that post but the last piece confuses me. It says

All three of the following are true:

• You filed a Form I-130 petition, for your relative - This is true in our case
• There is only one applicant on the Form I-130 petition, and - This is also true in our case
• All your qualifying income comes from a salary or pension and shows on one or more W-2 Forms that you receive - This one confuses us, it says all your qualifying income, we have i864 for my wife and i864a for her sister filled. Again my wife just got a job, so we have her offer letter, recent paystub copy. But does this stand true to us. My wife does not has any W2 form and does not had any salary and got pension,

Therefore I'm not sure if the third one is TRUE for us. Any inputs ?

How much does your wife make per year? Is it over the poverty guidelines? Then don't worry about having a joint sponsor.

It doesn't matter if she was in school last year, it's CURRENT income. Last year my husband started his job, made 15k. But ya know what? He makes 60k a year, it's just that his 2012 taxes would say 15k from Sept - Dec.

BUT because she has not had this income reported in her taxes YET she should still sign a completed I-864 not the I-864ez.

The I-864a is to combine incomes in a household. The main joint sponsor should almost always sign a completed i-864 even if they live in the same house as the primary sponsor/petitioner.

If you choose to submit a joint sponsor, she needs to submit a photocopy of her birth certificate OR her entire passport OR her naturalization certificate to prove citizenship (unless she was an LPR in which she case she'd need to send a photocopy of her green card.) You don't need all 3, just one of them works.