GZ to get his gun back

[Harsh_77 718]

The bad news is walking around makes you a criminal.

Pouncing and attacking one does make u criminal.

If he wanted he could had just walked away to his home, he could had answered he was just visiting and waited until cops showed up, instead he decided he was not going to attack GZ.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

Pouncing and attacking one does make u criminal.

If he wanted he could had just walked away to his home, he could had answered he was just visiting and waited until cops showed up, instead he decided he was not going to attack GZ.

TM had no obligation to answer any of GZ's questions.

[Harsh_77 718]

TM had no obligation to answer any of GZ's questions.

Had no reason to attack either, are you going to punch someone if you were asked what are you doing here?

[GandD 5,966]

Pouncing and attacking one does make u criminal.

If he wanted he could had just walked away to his home, he could had answered he was just visiting and waited until cops showed up, instead he decided he was not going to attack GZ.

Don't act like you guys wouldn't say pouncing on a guy following and yelling at you is justified self defense. The only difference here is the one following was a white cop wanna be and the one being followed was that most scary and dangerous of all creatures, a black teenage thug.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

Had no reason to attack either, are you going to punch someone if you were asked what are you doing here?

I did not say he had a reason to attack, if that's what happened. I do not know what provoked the physical fight.

All I said is that GZ did not identify himself. If some random guy starts following me and asking what I'm doing and where I'm going, why would I answer them?

Judging how paranoid some people here sound, it wouldn't surprise me one bit if they would pull a gun on someone they thought was following them and was going to do them harm.

Edited July 16, 2013 by Penny Lane

[slim 1,525]

Following, by very definition, implies you are moving away from the threat.

When you turn to engage the threat, you typically lose your self defense rights.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

Following, by very definition, implies you are moving away from the threat.

When you turn to engage the threat, you typically lose your self defense rights.

Interesting.

So you feel that TM turned and "engaged the threat"

Couldn't it be said that by getting out of his car and tracking TM down, that GZ was also "engaging the threat"?

[RGinWA 816]

The other guy who did not have gun was the one who jumped and punched GZ.

That's the story, but who knows how true.

You can't get jumped and punched if you don't follow strangers.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Yes, I keep forgetting that TM was committing a crime that night.

That 1 juror who wanted 2nd degree murder initially is nuts.

The one that wanted to convict no matter what. recruit them with a free VJ membership

[Penny Lane 8,159]

The one that wanted to convict no matter what. recruit them with a free VJ membership

Free? What a deal.

[Dan and Judy 614]

You can't get jumped and punched if you don't follow strangers.

yes it is impossible

[GandD 5,966]

yes it is impossible

I wonder how many people have ever been jumped in a moving car.

[Dan and Judy 614]

The one that wanted to convict no matter what. recruit them with a free VJ membership

Hey I want my $20 back. Why did I have to pay Charles $20?

[Penny Lane 8,159]

Hey I want my $20 back. Why did I have to pay Charles $20?

I don't want to know.

[Harsh_77 718]

Don't act like you guys wouldn't say pouncing on a guy following and yelling at you is justified self defense. The only difference here is the one following was a white cop wanna be and the one being followed was that most scary and dangerous of all creatures, a black teenage thug.

What you mean you guys??

There is nothing wrong if he had ambition to become cop that does not make anyone guilty of anything.

TM was involved in stealing… which judge and prosecution did not wanted to be admitted and was left out.

If some is walking in the rain and looking into the house that would be suspicious to any logical person, specially if they had recent breakins in the area.