GZ to get his gun back

[GandD 5,966]

Medgar Evans Jury:

All white, both hung juries. He didn't see jail until 30 years later when the jury was mixed.

Emmitt Till Jury:

Both killers had all white juries, acquitted. Add insult to injury: Bryant and Milam were acquitted of Till's kidnapping and murder, but only months later, in a magazine interview, protected against double jeopardy, they admitted to killing him.

I can keep going.

Doesn't amount of public spotlight a trial gets have something to do with what goes down? From what I got out of the prosecution's post verdict news conference they were not able to get away with the mundane little things they would in normal trials since they were under such scrutiny.

[Karee 4,190]

Medgar Evans Jury:

All white, both hung juries. He didn't see jail until 30 years later when the jury was mixed.

Emmitt Till Jury:

Both killers had all white juries, acquitted. Add insult to injury: Bryant and Milam were acquitted of Till's kidnapping and murder, but only months later, in a magazine interview, protected against double jeopardy, they admitted to killing him.

I can keep going.

Yeah back then they had separate restrooms for blacks and whites as well. They had government sponsored racial segregation. I hardly think those verdicts are surprising considering the times. I'm surprised you didn't post a few cases from the 1800s.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Marvin, if you want to see the boogeyman under every bed, then you will.

Funny, the OJ case was mysteriously left off of Marvin's list.

Because the OJ case isn't an all black jury. You had 8 blacks, and 4 non blacks. It's the only case white people refer to because it's the only time you had a jury with more blacks in it in a high profile case. I'd almost wager it't the reason why you can't name a single other case where that has happen.

[Jacque67 7,328]

See what I mean?

What was the question? You assume I read your question. I do not read most of what you post. I will be glad to answer any questions you have.

I did not assume anything of the sort. I have the impression you ignore awkward questions, OK for starters why do you brag about unprotected sex?

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Yeah back then they had separate restrooms for blacks and whites as well. They had government sponsored racial segregation. I hardly think those verdicts are surprising considering the times. I'm surprised you didn't post a few cases from the 1800s.

Sean Bell 2008:

Didn't even go to trial, the judge acquitted them on the spot.

Oscar Grant 2009:

Time sentenced 2 years, time served 11 months for shooting a killing Oscar Grant

Amadou Bailo Diallo 1999:

All four cops that shot him 41 times, acquitted.

[Karee 4,190]

Because the OJ case isn't an all black jury. You had 8 blacks, and 4 non blacks. It's the only case white people refer to because it's the only time you had a jury with more blacks in it in a high profile case. I'd almost wager it't the reason why you can't name a single other case where that has happen.

I guess the bottom line here as that you wanted a black jury in this case because you know that they would've considered a bunch of racist factors not related to the case. They would've used all the racist wrongs that have happened to them in past to to reach the verdict rather than the facts of the case.

Maybe I'm wrong, so tell me why you would want an all black jury in the TM/GZ case.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Marvin, if you want to see the boogeyman under every bed, then you will.

Funny, the OJ case was mysteriously left off of Marvin's list.

That does not count. O.J. had money..He was de-blacked

[Penny Lane 8,159]

I don't think an all black jury would have come to a different verdict than this all white jury did. Not in this case.

Florida's self defense laws, as ridiculous as they are, and the lack of evidence as to what really happened tell me that no matter who was on that jury, he would have walked anyway.

Edited July 18, 2013 by Penny Lane

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

I don't think an all black jury would have come to a different verdict than this all white jury did. Not in this case.

Your kidding right ?

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Doesn't amount of public spotlight a trial gets have something to do with what goes down? From what I got out of the prosecution's post verdict news conference they were not able to get away with the mundane little things they would in normal trials since they were under such scrutiny.

Well in these case Karee is right, back then it was way worse. These were high profile cases, but this was when racial segregation was run of the mill. You could kill a black person, go to trial and get off just because you were white, in the case of Medgar Evans, he bragged about it and still got off twice. It wasn't until 30 years later that justice was served, could be because it was a mixed jury, could be because people evolved.

[GandD 5,966]

I don't think an all black jury would have come to a different verdict than this all white jury did. Not in this case.

I think they would have.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

Your kidding right ?

No. I'm not.

I don't think the race of the jury impacted the verdict.

[Jacque67 7,328]

It is spelled "Scot" Scott and Scott are not the same. Lenin and Lennon are not the same. Rg does not always realize that

Still the question exists, though posed to RG specifically

Wimps, softies and wussies carry guns. Sometime RG carries a gun. So RG is a part time wimp and softy and other times he calls 911...for a wimp. HELP! Send a WIMP! One of his premises is that the wimp GZ should have listened to another wimp on the phone and not gotten out of his truck. Right?

Rather than try to divert onto the definition of Scot free when his premise was that GZ should have been punished for SOMETHING even though he was acquitted (yeah, who wants to explain that!) No, much better to prove that GARY IS WRONG about SOMETHING which as nothing to do with anything.

Ok, so here you go. I was wrong, it is not a perjorative. My apologies to the offended...whoever was offended by a non-perjorative being described as a perjorative...the Protectors of our Perjoratives (PooP)

Anyway, so back to the subject on which RG expounded for so many pages.

RG...How do you determine when you need a gun?

Have you ever killed anyone? Shot anyone?

If No, then you have never really needed the gun right?

So you carried a gun because you thought you MIGHT need a gun, right?

Why did you think you might need a gun?

What other reason do you carry a gun for if not to shoot someone?

Mr. Big Dog says if you are carrying a gun you intend to do harm. Do you intend to do harm when you carry a gun?

Again I ask this to gain knowledge so that I may actually reduce my gun carrying needs and it is your opportunity to make Vermont safer when I leave my gun at home on days when I won't actually think I might need it.

And again I am always amazed at how I can give entertainment to lifeless people searching the internet to prove Gary wrong...and OH, a Canadian flag! What a surprise.

You appear racist. You implied that Canadian women had discovered your lies about your wife ( avatar photo), when that was now the case. And anyone who proves you wrong must be a Canadian. Well guess what I am not. And Vermont is far worse than Canada IMOA.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

I think they would have.

You think an all black jury would have gone against the instructions given and come to a different conclusion? Why?

[Harsh_77 718]

Because the OJ case isn't an all black jury. You had 8 blacks, and 4 non blacks. It's the only case white people refer to because it's the only time you had a jury with more blacks in it in a high profile case. I'd almost wager it't the reason why you can't name a single other case where that has happen.

Dude get off your jury angle…. I showed you yesterday both the lawyers defense and prosecution have equal say on who they want on the jury.

Both the parties can challenge and get a juror removed from the selection.

When prosecution accepted the current jury they must have something in mind which told them jury would sway the decision in their favor.

Edited July 18, 2013 by Harsh_77