GZ to get his gun back

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Understood, but the person now criticizing Florida law was 100% positive that Zimmerman was going to be put away because of the law and the sympathetic jury and he posted the same ad nauseam multiple times per day for months on end.

It should have happened, but courts are not allowed to instruct juries on how extensive their powers to render verdicts really are. Juries can nullify unreasonable laws if they decide to do so. 5 out of the 6 jurors in this case disagreed with the Florida law, yet didn't realize they could have disregarded the self defense instruction, and found Zimmerman guilty of either manslaughter or murder 2.

[GandD 5,966]

Hmm. Odd thing is I don't know. Sometimes I really give a damn and other times I just like to clown around.

I know sometimes i go from serious to humor in the same post , it must be quite frustrating at times.

Patton was asked, Sir your men don't know when you are serious and when you are not

He replied, It is not important they know only that I know.

He believed in reincarnation , you don't reckon I could be

I will say I honestly like Penny and did not mean to piss her off. She just get's so sensitive sometimes, she will ride my #### for days then get offend at the least little thing.

General Patton and Teddy Roosevelt are two of my favorite people.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Maybe man, you don't know that. You really don't. You can go on past examples sure but at some point you expect it to be the rule. Not all people are like that. Sure the jerks stick out in your mind but just like on here, but you can't take what racist people have said to you and assume most people are like them. Moderates are the majority in nearly everything.

Do you care too much or do you not care and just say stuff so you can laugh at people when they jump through your hoops? Which is it?

Yes I do, you know why? Name me the last time someone called the cops on a "suspicious" white person that wasn't doing anything at the time. It doesn't happen.

Here's the lowdown: If someone calls the cops on a white person, that means there had to be something there in order for the call to take place. Meaning, the few shootings or explosions that were averted because someone called it in, they SAW the weapons, or they overheard them talking about it. There was cause and evidence something bad was about to go down. In the last two years, with the mass shootings, how many white folks were profiled? Remember when the white guy walked into JC Penny's with the automatic weapon on his back? And this was right after a mass shooting, do you think a black person or better yet a person of middle eastern descent could pull this off?

This video highlights what I am talking about. The white guy made it through 100 folks and yet only one person called the cops. The black guy, same age, same clothing, same tools, couldn't make it through one. Sounds like the majority in this case.

Edited July 17, 2013 by Su and Marvin

[Karee 4,190]

Except if it was a white teenager he wouldn't have called the cops.

I thought initially on the 911 call he didn't know what race he was. But I guess if he was white, GZ would've just walked up to him, gave him the secret handshake and a kiss on the cheek.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

I thought initially on the 911 call he didn't know what race he was. But I guess if he was white, GZ would've just walked up to him, gave him the secret handshake and a kiss on the cheek.

Dispatcher

Sanford Police Department.

Zimmerman

Hey we've had some break-ins in my neighborhood, and there's a real suspicious guy, uh, it's Retreat View Circle, um, the best address I can give you is 111 Retreat View Circle. This guy looks like he's up to no good, or he's on drugs or something. It's raining and he's just walking around, looking about.

Dispatcher

OK, and this guy is he white, black, or hispanic?

Zimmerman

He looks black.

And if he was white, he would have kept it moving.

[Karee 4,190]

Yes I do, you know why? Name me the last time someone called the cops on a "suspicious" white person that wasn't doing anything at the time. It doesn't happen.

Here's the lowdown: If someone calls the cops on a white person, that means there had to be something there in order for the call to take place. Meaning, the few shootings or explosions that were averted because someone called it in, they SAW the weapons, or they overheard them talking about it. There was cause and evidence something bad was about to go down. In the last two years, with the mass shootings, how many white folks were profiled? Remember when the white guy walked into JC Penny's with the automatic weapon on his back? And this was right after a mass shooting, do you think a black person or better yet a person of middle eastern descent could pull this off?

This video highlights what I am talking about. The white guy made it through 100 folks and yet only one person called the cops. The black guy, same age, same clothing, same tools, couldn't make it through one. Sounds like the majority in this case.

See you will never ever admit that TM beat the hell out of this guy and that's why he's dead. It has to be about race. For argument's sake, let's say GZ called the cops on him strictly because he's black. GZ still had the right to defend himself from the a$$ beating he was taking.

Once again, if someone is following you, you don't have the right to kick their a$$, and if you decide to do that, you may end up dead.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

See you will never ever admit that TM beat the hell out of this guy and that's why he's dead. It has to be about race. For argument's sake, let's say GZ called the cops on him strictly because he's black. GZ still had the right to defend himself from the a$$ beating he was taking.

Once again, if someone is following you, you don't have the right to kick their a$$, and if you decide to do that, you may end up dead.

Just like you'll never admit that maybe GZ started the confrontation. Why didn't GZ identify himself? Why didn't GZ let him know who he was and why he was following him? Why did GZ say he didn't follow him, but in the 911 call he did? For someone who says they were the victim, they did everything to instigate a tense situation and nothing to diffuse it.

[Karee 4,190]

Dispatcher

Sanford Police Department.

Zimmerman

Hey we've had some break-ins in my neighborhood, and there's a real suspicious guy, uh, it's Retreat View Circle, um, the best address I can give you is 111 Retreat View Circle. This guy looks like he's up to no good, or he's on drugs or something. It's raining and he's just walking around, looking about.

Dispatcher

OK, and this guy is he white, black, or hispanic?

Zimmerman

He looks black.

And if he was white, he would have kept it moving.

How do you know that he would have kept moving? Can you read his mind? You're just making things up at this point to fit how you want things to be.

If TM didn't walk about to him and say I'm gonna kill you, you white #######, maybe none of this would've happened. I don't know TM said that to him, just like you don't know that GZ wouldn't have called the cops if he was white.

[slim 1,525]

See you will never ever admit that TM beat the hell out of this guy and that's why he's dead. It has to be about race. For argument's sake, let's say GZ called the cops on him strictly because he's black. GZ still had the right to defend himself from the a$$ beating he was taking.

Once again, if someone is following you, you don't have the right to kick their a$$, and if you decide to do that, you may end up dead.

Best post of the day.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Dispatcher

Sanford Police Department.

Zimmerman

Hey we've had some break-ins in my neighborhood, and there's a real suspicious guy, uh, it's Retreat View Circle, um, the best address I can give you is 111 Retreat View Circle. This guy looks like he's up to no good, or he's on drugs or something. It's raining and he's just walking around, looking about.

Dispatcher

OK, and this guy is he white, black, or hispanic?

Zimmerman

He looks black.

And if he was white, he would have kept it moving.

Dude this case has driven what use to be a logical fair and balanced person over the edge. Listen to your wife.She is right

Making statements like"No one ever calls the police on white people for looking suspicious" that is just off the edge. Happens all the time

[RGinWA 816]

I thought initially on the 911 call he didn't know what race he was. But I guess if he was white, GZ would've just walked up to him, gave him the secret handshake and a kiss on the cheek.

Skull and Bones...they all belong.

Seriously, what happened to just asking someone if they are alright no matter what color they are?

Were I grew up calling the police was rare. If the wino's looked like they were getting the shakes someone gave them enough for some ripple. Problem avoided.

When you fear everyone you only cause more problems.

[Karee 4,190]

Just like you'll never admit that maybe GZ started the confrontation. Why didn't GZ identify himself? Why didn't GZ let him know who he was and why he was following him? Why did GZ say he didn't follow him, but in the 911 call he did? For someone who says they were the victim, they did everything to instigate a tense situation and nothing to diffuse it.

Maybe GZ did start the confrontation. There's no evidence of that unless you consider following starting a confrontation. TM escalated the situation by beating on him. That's a huge escalation.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

How do you know that he would have kept moving? Can you read his mind? You're just making things up at this point to fit how you want things to be.

If TM didn't walk about to him and say I'm gonna kill you, you white #######, maybe none of this would've happened. I don't know TM said that to him, just like you don't know that GZ wouldn't have called the cops if he was white.

How do you know he said that? Oh that's right the guy who said he wasn't following him, but was. The guy that said TM bashed his head on the ground 20-30 times but only had a busted head and broken nose. The guy who said he got out of the car to look at the road sign in a neighborhood he's lived in for a while.

Guess it's a stretch to say he's lying. And no one has yet to show me a case when someone called the cops on a white guy looking suspicious, show me this situation on the flip side, then we can talk.

Maybe GZ did start the confrontation. There's no evidence of that unless you consider following starting a confrontation. TM escalated the situation by beating on him. That's a huge escalation.

A man following a 17 year old at night, no identification, no talking. How do you know GZ didn't put hands on him first? If he pushed him, and TM fought back, how could you prove that? Or is that so hard to believe?

Edited July 17, 2013 by Su and Marvin

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Dude this case has driven what use to be a logical fair and balanced person over the edge. Listen to your wife.She is right

Making statements like"No one ever calls the police on white people for looking suspicious" that is just off the edge. Happens all the time

Show me the case when something like this has happened. If you can do it, I'll come off the ledge.

[Karee 4,190]

A man following a 17 year old at night, no identification, no talking. How do you know GZ didn't put hands on him first? If he pushed him, and TM fought back, how could you prove that? Or is that so hard to believe?

There's absolutely no evidence of that. Maybe there was a 3rd guy behind the grassy knoll that we don't know about. Anything is possible I suppose. You can come up with anything to make it seem however you want it to seem. Unfortunately, there's no evidence to support your wild speculation.