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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Qatar
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OK so i have some confusion regarding domicile on I 864 form

If i am temporarily staying abroad with my husband, however maintain US residence like us bank account, us permanent address, credit cards etc why would i write domicile as Qatar (foreign country).Note that although i have a family residency visa in Qatar(abroad), I spend time both here and in america ( 4-5 months).

I know there are some guides here that indicate you mention the foreign country of residence and then a letter showing this proof of domicile.

What if i just specify domicile question under I 864 as USA and then also include proof of domicile mentioned above, would this be sufficient?

On the I 130 forms i did include both our address to be the Qatar one.

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and i am not working either in us or qatar

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It's up to you. You can list the US address if that's where you'll be living. It's vital you show you have valid US domicile, if it comes into question, however.

I've seen people lost address either way, though. It's probably more straight forward to just stick with the US address.

I assume you have a joint sponsor for this form, also?

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OK so i have some confusion regarding domicile on I 864 form

If i am temporarily staying abroad with my husband, however maintain US residence like us bank account, us permanent address, credit cards etc why would i write domicile as Qatar (foreign country).Note that although i have a family residency visa in Qatar(abroad), I spend time both here and in america ( 4-5 months).

I know there are some guides here that indicate you mention the foreign country of residence and then a letter showing this proof of domicile.

What if i just specify domicile question under I 864 as USA and then also include proof of domicile mentioned above, would this be sufficient?

On the I 130 forms i did include both our address to be the Qatar one.

Thanks,

and i am not working either in us or qatar

It probably doesn't matter. While DCF petitions were being processed at local embassies it was necessary for the USC to demonstrate proof that he/she was domiciled in the country he/she was filing in so that the entire case would be processed quickly and locally. So on our petition and other information filed in Riyadh I listed Saudi Arabia as my country of domicile, as I was working and living there and had to file in person with all kinds of proofs and other nonsense that I was domiciled there.

We were not given a hard time about a US residence (NOTE to previous poster RESIDENCE and DOMICILE are two different things). I listed my parents address as our intended residence while we looked for a permanent one and that was that and this was the address on our bank / credit card car registration / car insurance / financial statements.

On the issue of sponsorship you do not have to be working (DCF filers rarely can demonstrate US income) but you (not your non-USC spouse) need to either show 3X your annual required minimum income in either quickly convertible or in cash assets (and they did verify that ours was in the US) OR you will need a co-sponsor in the US. They did interview both of us separately about where we intended to live and what are plans were after US arrival and our stories must have matched LOL since they approved us same day.

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i don't get it.

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On the issue of domicile for the I-864 you will want to use your US address.

When you did the I-130 you probably put Qatar so that you'd skip out on the local offices and have the NBC adjudicate your petition faster.

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I did not notice your comment that you used the Qatar address on the I130.

On the issue of domicile if you used your Qatar address to get your petition adjudicated more quickly and then turn around and use your US address as domicile for your I864 then I believe that there is a possibility that the CO MIGHT be able to make a point that either one or the other is untrue. It is advised, at least based on our experience, to make the two documents consistent in order to not raise any doubt or question. ESPECIALLY in the middle east.

Recommendation: Do what we successfully did and list your US address as residence and your foreign address as domicile.

 

i don't get it.

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my dad is my co-sponsor , so thats not an issue.

i've come to know the US embassy qatar is not strict on domicile requirements.

i read this thread; http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/438289-i-864-domicile-and-country-of-residency/

I will stay at my parents place, which is my mailing address, and permanent address.

for the below questions,

a. Sponsor's mailing address

b. Sponsor's place of residence

c. Country of domicile

i will then just put in my US address for a. sponsor mailing address and qatar address for place of residence & country of domicile.

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my dad is my co-sponsor , so thats not an issue.

i've come to know the US embassy qatar is not strict on domicile requirements.

i read this thread; http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/438289-i-864-domicile-and-country-of-residency/

I will stay at my parents place, which is my mailing address, and permanent address.

for the below questions,

a. Sponsor's mailing address

b. Sponsor's place of residence

c. Country of domicile

i will then just put in my US address for a. sponsor mailing address and qatar address for place of residence & country of domicile.

You probably would be OK either way. I was very careful to make everything consistent and felt everything went smoothly for us. Good luck!

 

i don't get it.

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If I am not mistaken - the I-130 does not ask about domicile. It asks only for address. We are living in Spain and put that down as my address. I attached an addendum, however, notifying them that I was domiciled at a certain address in the USA. My I-130 is being processed through the NBC (not local office).

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for the I-864, for the USCitizen Petitioner(s) - I suggest you use the usa address.

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for the I-864, for the USCitizen Petitioner(s) - I suggest you use the usa address.

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So you suggest to use the usa address for all 3 questions? i feel since i have included the foreign address on my I 130 and g 325a, it would be more consistent if i mention the mailing address & domicile as usa and place of residence as qatar - and then i can include the proof of domicile in usa.

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for the I-864, for the USCitizen Petitioner(s) - I suggest you use the usa address.

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Not for DCF bro.

The whole process of DCF revolves around eligiblity for DCF which means you have to first "prove" that you are domiciled in the country you file.

Once you file then it is a matter of ensuring that your subsequent package makes sense/is consistent with the DCF petition. It looks like the OP has done that and will be OK

 

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This isn't the DCF forum. If the OP has filed for DCF then they should say so so that someone can move the post to the appropriate forum.

According to their timeline they have not.

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This isn't the DCF forum. If the OP has filed for DCF then they should say so so that someone can move the post to the appropriate forum.

According to their timeline they have not.

I actually thought this was a DCF, did the OP change their visa setting type?

Regardless, I still think your advice about US address is most accurate, Niki.

Even if they are DCF, the petitioner needs to show foreign domicile to qualify for the filing of the i-130, not the visa application done by the beneficiary itself. It's normal/common for the USC half of a DCF couple to move back to the US ahead in order to meet the US domicile requirements, so if there is a US address available for the i864, it's almost always going to be the most straight forward address to use. Of course, some embassies may be more finickity about this than others.

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* I-130/CR-1 visa by Direct Consular Filing in London
3rd May 2013 - Married in London

7th May 2013 - I-130 filed
4th June 2013 - NOA2 (approved)
16th July 2013 - Interview (approved)
30th July 2013 - POE San Francisco
29th August 2013 - 2 year green card arrived

 

* How? Read my DCF London I-130 for CR1/IR1 Spouse Guide

* Removal of Conditions (RoC) via California Service Centre
1st May 2015 - 90 day RoC window opened
6th May 2015 - I-751 filed (delivered 8th May, cheque cashed 18th May)
7th August 2015 - Approved / GC production

27th August 2015 - 10 year green card arrived

* Naturalisation (Citizenship) via Phoenix Lockbox

* San Francisco Field Office:
1st May 2016 - N-400 window opened
20th August 2016 - N-400 filed

26th August 2016 - NOA1
13th September 2016 - Biometrics

12th January 2017 - Biometrics (again)
30th May 2017 - Interview (approved)
7th June 2017 - Oath

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I actually thought this was a DCF, did the OP change their visa setting type?

Regardless, I still think your advice about US address is most accurate, Niki.

Even if they are DCF, the petitioner needs to show foreign domicile to qualify for the filing of the i-130, not the visa application done by the beneficiary itself. It's normal/common for the USC half of a DCF couple to move back to the US ahead in order to meet the US domicile requirements, so if there is a US address available for the i864, it's almost always going to be the most straight forward address to use. Of course, some embassies may be more finickity about this than others.

I don't know much about the DCF system so I love hearing more about it to learn. Thanks for the good info! I really appreciate it! :)

Their timeline says national benefit center?

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