In Person Meeting requirement

[TBoneTX 46,273]

Playing the amateur attorney again I see! I stated my personal experiences with USCIS and the original poster can take from it what he wishes. I'm pretty sure he will have no problem being approved. He has already filed so let us wait and see!

Impersonating an attorney is a felony that I shall never commit. The obvious and dangerous fallacies of your previous statements have been exposed, and the only proper response from you is to write "I was wrong to project my individual experience as a global expectation, in contrast to USCIS and VisaJourney guidelines, and neither the OP nor anyone else should assume that my situation is typical or that my assumptions are reliable. I've been a VisaJourney member for less than 3 weeks, and I intend to refrain from posting in my currently established pattern until I've gained enough experience and time-in-grade to be able to provide reliable advice." Words MEAN things.

Edited July 14, 2013 by TBoneTX

[C-ma'am 684]

Playing the amateur attorney again I see! I stated my personal experiences with USCIS and the original poster can take from it what he wishes. I'm pretty sure he will have no problem being approved. He has already filed so let us wait and see!

Learn that, at this site, personal experience is not a procedure. You were advised, by a lot of knowledgeable members, to refrain from providing information you do not know well. This is not a pissing contest, is a lesson.

[tinman 33]

AGREED!!!........ now please,..........stop trying to make yourself "relevant". ( 3 weeks here, and already the expert ) Find another venue..................................or join a bowling league!

[KayDeeCee 4,896]

Playing the amateur attorney again I see! I stated my personal experiences with USCIS and the original poster can take from it what he wishes. I'm pretty sure he will have no problem being approved. He has already filed so let us wait and see!

Several people in this thread told you not to post broadly sweeping assertions/assumptions as facts. You did not simply state your personal experience. You posted that your personal experience factually proved that the entire CSC is not strict and what the OP provided is all that the CSC requires for all petitions.

I also hope the OP gets approved without an RFE. Not because it will make your 'facts' correct(because it won't) and 'show TBone a thing or two', but because I wish the OP a smooth journey through the system.

"It is enough for USCIS California because I was a January filer for California and all we sent were some photos and copies of plane tickets and we were approved no problem."

"Just to let to know, scanning photos of passport are not necessary for California. If you just send 2 or 3 photos of the two of you together and a plane ticket to your fiance's destination then that will be sufficient for California because that is all we sent and had an approval in 4 months."

"I wasn't advising him, since he has already sent in his petition and the said evidence. I was simply reassuring him not to worry about what he did send in because I sent the same in and I was approved without a problem, so the California centre aren't super strict on following things word for word."

Your one-time experience does not in any way equate to the fact that the CSC is less strict on the guidelines and what you were approved with is all the CSC will ask of anyone. Those statements are not mere reassurances to the OP. If you wanted to give the OP a little peace of mind, you could have reassured him without the assumed 'facts' about the entire CSC. Something like, "Don't worry. I was approved with the same amount of evidence, so it is a possibility that you will be fine and not receive an RFE." <-- That would be a good example of using your personal experience to reassure the OP. Your statements of false facts should have been left out completely.

Telling someone the real facts is the most important thing to do in order to truly help someone out here. They might not want to hear it, but that is the only way they can be successful. Letting the OP know that he may be fine is okay, but it should also be added that he may not be okay. One person is approved and another gets an RFE. Some get lucky and get right through, even with missing documentation. Others are not so lucky. You only need to look at the many posts about RFEs here on VJ to know this.

[Ebunoluwa 6,136]

Again, I'm not really advising, since he already sent in the evidence, I'm simply reassuring him not to worry because I filed with the same center and I had no problems. Stating personal experience with USCIS are facts that can be used to understand how USCIS sometimes work at a pragmatic level and so is very relevant. You're right, high risk countries may be stricter than Visa Waiver countries like Ireland but he still shouldn't worry if he has sent in a boarding pass, and photos. The boarding pass is solid evidence of meeting in person at a stated date since you can't get a boarding pass unless you were physically in the local airport (assuming it's not the print out ones).

You still do not understand that it has absolutely nothing to do with the "center". Zilch. Nada. Nil. Zero.

You simply do not understand service centers and what makes them tick inside their intrinsic wheel.

It has as much relevance as the price of tea in China.

The focus of what is accepted in this case as evidence for a I-129 is on the individual adjudicating officer, mixed in with a lot of variables and in no shape or form to be viewed as a predictibility of leniency or strictness of the entire "center" and should not be used as reasurance.

Try to predict a service center by your personal experience and I show you a BIG FAIL.

Patterns emerge with hundreds of cases but not predictibility of a center based on YOUR outcome.

[loughrey101 13]

You still do not understand that it has absolutely nothing to do with the "center". Zilch. Nada. Nil. Zero.

You simply do not understand service centers and what makes them tick inside their intrinsic wheel.

It has as much relevance as the price of tea in China.

The focus of what is accepted in this case as evidence for a I-129 is on the individual adjudicating officer, mixed in with a lot of variables and in no shape or form to be viewed as a predictibility of leniency or strictness of the entire "center" and should not be used as reasurance.

Try to predict a service center by your personal experience and I show you a BIG FAIL.

Patterns emerge with hundreds of cases but not predictibility of a center based on YOUR outcome.

A good point, thank you!

[VanessaTony 3,567]

As others have stated, it does seem to vary. If by "airline ticket" you mean ticket stubs, then you may well be fine. If you mean itinerary/copy of actual ticket, you may be RFE'd.

I personally sent (from memory.. this was 4 years ago!) about 3 photos, photocopy of my passport with stamps (I visited the US), ticket stubs and itinerary.

Photos and itineraries are secondary evidence. I sent the itinerary to match the details on the ticket stubs. Photos to prove that the flight to Houston was to see him.

Hopefully it's enough but if it's not, other options are:

- ticket stubs

- passport copy showing stamp

- bank statements showing purchases overseas

- train/bus tickets from her country

- receipts from her country

- hotel receipts

- travel receipts from trips together

Anything you can think of that proves you were in her country together.

Good luck!