GZ/TM Case Turning Into a Kangaroo Court Prosecution

[Darnell 8,479]

who's for Jesus? Wot ? ah ? More religion in this topic? OK, la.

[spookyturtle 9,466]

So do they both mean that a neutral person is against Jesus or for Jesus?

If you are not against Him, you are with Him either way. If you are not with Him, you are against him.

[Dan and Judy 614]

If you are not against Him, you are with Him either way. If you are not with Him, you are against him.

do you disagree with either of these?

first one says a neutral person is for us (us would include Jesus)

second says a neutral person is against me ( me being Jesus)

[spookyturtle 9,466]

do you disagree with either of these?

first one says a neutral person is for us (us would include Jesus)

second says a neutral person is against me ( me being Jesus)

If you're not against me, you're with me. If you're not with me, you're against me. Same thing.

[Dan and Judy 614]

If you're not against me, you're with me. If you're not with me, you're against me. Same thing.

So you don't wish to disclose if you disagree with either of these statements?

first one says a neutral person is for us (us would include Jesus)

second says a neutral person is against me ( me being Jesus)

[GandD 5,966]

first one says a neutral person is for us (us would include Jesus)

second say a neutral person is against me ( me being Jesus)

it is contradictory

These sentences are contradictory. You're right.

But look at the entire quote in your link. In the first one it would depend on what encompasses "us". The guy was driving demons out in Christs name so he has to be for Christ, but he's not one of "us" Maybe that's just the disciples in this context. Clearly that guy was for Jesus.

The second one, they're against Christ, and he uses "me" That one's clear.

[spookyturtle 9,466]

So you don't wish to disclose if you disagree with either of these statements?

first one says a neutral person is for us (us would include Jesus)

second says a neutral person is against me ( me being Jesus)

IMO, both statements say the same thing.

These sentences are contradictory. You're right.

But look at the entire quote in your link. In the first one it would depend on what encompasses "us". The guy was driving demons out in Christs name so he has to be for Christ, but he's not one of "us" Maybe that's just the disciples in this context. Clearly that guy was for Jesus.

The second one, they're against Christ, and he uses "me" That one's clear.

And you just showed that they mean the same thing.

[Dan and Judy 614]

IMO, both statements say the same thing.

And you just showed that they mean the same thing.

Just to be clear are you saying that these statements say the same thing?

first one says a neutral person is for us (us would include Jesus)

second says a neutral person is against me ( me being Jesus)

or that the Jesus quotes are saying the same thing?

or all 4 statements say the same thing?

[Darnell 8,479]

My Venn Diagram keeps me away from the Jesus©

[Dan and Judy 614]

These sentences are contradictory. You're right.

But look at the entire quote in your link. In the first one it would depend on what encompasses "us".

Would us not have to include Christ?

[spookyturtle 9,466]

He that is not against us if for us.

Whoever is not with me is against me.

I'm saying these statements say or mean the same thing, depending upon how hair spitting you want to be.

[Dan and Judy 614]

He that is not against us if for us.

Whoever is not with me is against me.

I'm saying these statements say or mean the same thing, depending upon how hair spitting you want to be.

Well let's make it black and white.

substitute the word black for " against me"

substitute the word white for " with me" and "for us"

It then says He that is not is black is white.

and Whoever is not white is black

are you good with that?

[spookyturtle 9,466]

Well let's make it black and white.

substitute the word black for " against me"

substitute the word white for " with me" and "for us"

It then says He that is not is black is white.

and Whoever is not white is black

are you good with that?

No, I'll stay with the way it is written in the Bible.

[Dan and Judy 614]

No, I'll stay with the way it is written in the Bible.

You've got something in common with George Zimmerman here.

The less you say the better

It's contradictory

[spookyturtle 9,466]

You've got something in common with George Zimmerman here.

The less you say the better

It's contradictory

As long as that what's you think, that's all that matters.