Not Qualified For Obamacare Subsidies? Just Lie.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

C. I have no idea idea how to respond to the overwhelming facts you presented, so I will just call you a nut job **/rwnj with zero reading comprehension insult you and move on, and claim I already answered the question. ( this covers the tin foil hat stupidity)

Imagine how much time they could save with form letter posts, NB! They could even reduce to letters or numbers

"Number 6 with fries and soda!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

"All that and a bag o' chips!"

[Darnell 8,478]

Arajit has morphed into yet another account. He's usually 'active' during the work week, during the work day.

[Protocol417 161]

As a liberal, I just want to say:

- I haven't watched a minute of MSNBC since what's-his-face went off the rails with his "special comments". I can't remember ever reading their website. I can't comment on Al-Jazeera, Salon, or CNN, as I've never watched/read them myself (except at airports in the case of CNN). I get my news from aggregates, BBC, and the Guardian (because I have a friend who works there and he posts articles on Facebook a lot). So far as Forbes is concerned, I've cited them myself a time or two.

- It's kind of hypocritical to complain that liberals generalize, and then generalize about liberals.

- It's REALLY hypocritical to complain that liberals have no rebuttal except insults (even when those insults are pointing out suspected political bias) when your rebuttal is that they are "libtards" who only watch MSNBC.

- Seriously? Libtards? Really? You expect to be taken seriously when you say things like that?

Most important, I do not have to justify anything just because I am a liberal. This isn't a football game where I need to "support my team" no matter what, and even if I do "support Obama" that doesn't mean I have to cheer everything he does. Not that anyone's going to listen... many major liberal commentators have been vocally unhappy about the drone strikes, for example, but conservatives have still been attacking liberals for being on board with it when few of us actually are. Some liberals, especially those of us who want universal healthcare, have begrudgingly accepted Obamacare because, even though some of us feel that it is only more give-give-give to insurance companies, we feel it a) is better to try something than do nothing at all, b) is all that can be accomplished in the current political climate, and/or c) may be a stepping stone to something else, such as universal healthcare or something more along the lines of what Germany has. And yet we are still accused of following Obama without question! Even when people like Rachel Maddow, Jon Stewart, and Bill Maher are questioning, making fun of, and speaking against the president's actions, we have this accusation lobbed at us. It's ridiculous.

Am I happy that the employer mandate was pushed back to 2015 yet individuals are required to purchase still in 2014? No, and I have said as such. If it had to be pushed back, both should've been. Do I understand why Obama was able to line-item and push back just the employer mandate like that? No. But before I freak out, I admit that I don't actually know if that is something that is within the president's (ANY president's) power or not, and I certainly have no idea if that is considered an "abuse of power" or not. Before I start grabbing for my tinfoil I'm going to do more research on that matter. Given the lack of reaction amongst those who are in the position to know, I'm not overly worried.

So, please stop the circle jerk.

Now, regarding the article, it says that the "states will be able to 'accept the applicant's attestations'" and "providing Exchanges with the temporarily expanded discretion to accept an attestation" (emphasis mine, in both cases). I don't see where it says "MUST accept". This tells me it is up to the states to decide how they want to handle it, which puts it outside of Federal control, and makes the conclusion pretty shaky, or at least reasonably questionable.

[Darnell 8,478]

a circle jerk of liberals? Pelosi had that, for a bit. I miss her, sometimes, controlling the House.

but only sometimes.

She's still hawt, though.

[Protocol417 161]

Sorry if that was overly aggressive. It's 88 degrees outside and I've been spoiled by a mild summer.

[Pooky 3,784]

Seriously? Libtards? Really? You expect to be taken seriously when you say things like that?

Funny thing is that there are liberals here that expect to be taken seriously, even while throwing around such derogatory terms as "teatard", "teabagger", "RWNJ" and "**".

Both colours of the political spectrum can be guilty of a lack of respect. Best idea is to ignore the personality and argue the facts. Most of the time, that's what keeps them quiet anyway

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

As a liberal, I just want to say:

- I haven't watched a minute of MSNBC since what's-his-face went off the rails with his "special comments". I can't remember ever reading their website. I can't comment on Al-Jazeera, Salon, or CNN, as I've never watched/read them myself (except at airports in the case of CNN). I get my news from aggregates, BBC, and the Guardian (because I have a friend who works there and he posts articles on Facebook a lot). So far as Forbes is concerned, I've cited them myself a time or two.

- It's kind of hypocritical to complain that liberals generalize, and then generalize about liberals.

- It's REALLY hypocritical to complain that liberals have no rebuttal except insults (even when those insults are pointing out suspected political bias) when your rebuttal is that they are "libtards" who only watch MSNBC.

- Seriously? Libtards? Really? You expect to be taken seriously when you say things like that?

Most important, I do not have to justify anything just because I am a liberal. This isn't a football game where I need to "support my team" no matter what, and even if I do "support Obama" that doesn't mean I have to cheer everything he does. Not that anyone's going to listen... many major liberal commentators have been vocally unhappy about the drone strikes, for example, but conservatives have still been attacking liberals for being on board with it when few of us actually are. Some liberals, especially those of us who want universal healthcare, have begrudgingly accepted Obamacare because, even though some of us feel that it is only more give-give-give to insurance companies, we feel it a) is better to try something than do nothing at all, b) is all that can be accomplished in the current political climate, and/or c) may be a stepping stone to something else, such as universal healthcare or something more along the lines of what Germany has. And yet we are still accused of following Obama without question! Even when people like Rachel Maddow, Jon Stewart, and Bill Maher are questioning, making fun of, and speaking against the president's actions, we have this accusation lobbed at us. It's ridiculous.

Am I happy that the employer mandate was pushed back to 2015 yet individuals are required to purchase still in 2014? No, and I have said as such. If it had to be pushed back, both should've been. Do I understand why Obama was able to line-item and push back just the employer mandate like that? No. But before I freak out, I admit that I don't actually know if that is something that is within the president's (ANY president's) power or not, and I certainly have no idea if that is considered an "abuse of power" or not. Before I start grabbing for my tinfoil I'm going to do more research on that matter. Given the lack of reaction amongst those who are in the position to know, I'm not overly worried.

So, please stop the circle jerk.

Now, regarding the article, it says that the "states will be able to 'accept the applicant's attestations'" and "providing Exchanges with the temporarily expanded discretion to accept an attestation" (emphasis mine, in both cases). I don't see where it says "MUST accept". This tells me it is up to the states to decide how they want to handle it, which puts it outside of Federal control, and makes the conclusion pretty shaky, or at least reasonably questionable.

I am smitten!

A liberal actually admitted they are a liberal and said circle jerk in the same post.

[Ban Hammer 13,340]

Just a thought, the Russian Cyrillic Alphabet has 33 letters, I mean, just in case. You are not likely to need more than 26 responses. I think you covered it with 3 so far, right?

Hey whatever happened to AJ and that guy that used skull and crossbones for his "name" I have no Idea what to call him. SS guy? Whatever. Where are they?

above post removed and returned minus the bait post.