Tough Choices for Self Employed

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

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Unlike Obama's friends in big business, the self employed have not had the Affordable Care Act "waived" by Czar Obama. While Walmart and Olive Garden, Lowe's and Home Depot get a break and will not have to provide medical care for THEIR employees, individuals and the self employed WILL. Czar Obama did not arbitrarily waive the LAW for them.

Seems like Walmart gots it way

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

http://wallstcheatsheet.com/stocks/obamacare-is-giving-the-self-employed-a-hard-choice.html/?ref=YF

Unlike Obama's friends in big business, the self employed have not had the Affordable Care Act "waived" by Czar Obama. While Walmart and Olive Garden, Lowe's and Home Depot get a break and will not have to provide medical care for THEIR employees, individuals and the self employed WILL. Czar Obama did not arbitrarily waive the LAW for them.

Seems like Walmart gots it way

Also saw a report that under Oboma the gap between blacks and other Americans has become worse in almost every category. Income disparaging, unemployment, number of blacks on disability and the list goes on.

Yet he is the messiah

Oh if people would just start paying attention

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Also saw a report that under Oboma the gap between blacks and other Americans has become worse in almost every category. Income disparaging, unemployment, number of blacks on disability and the list goes on.

Yet he is the messiah

Oh if people would just start paying attention

Democrats are racist and always have been. First they killed 600,000 Americans in support of slavery, then fought against equal rights and now have changed tactics to make blacks dependent on government to keep them under control. I can assure you that Dee Dee will always live, work and raise her children exactly where the local democrats want her to. She will eat whatever they decide she is allowed to buy with food stamps. She has no freedom, no choices, and neither will her children. If you disagree with that, they will call YOU a racist.

This was made abundantly clear during Hurricane Katrina and yet we allow it to continue and continue and continue.

Here in Vermont a recent exposee in a local paper "exposed" that Asian massgae parlors were actually (wait for it!) offering SEX for money! Now, no one here is going to get too excited about prostitution since it barely rates as a crime and in a state where a female pekinese can legally marry a female doberman pincher, no one gives a sh*t about an Asian woman giving an American man a hand job...but this was EXPLOITATION!!!!!!!!!! EXPLOITATION I TELL YOU! HUMAN TRAFFICKING! OMG

Why? Because their immigration status "was not clear" (this means they are illegal) and they were not being paid proper wages and receiving benefits...just tips...and were "trapped" in these massage parlors, sleeping on beds in a separate room. Really? They were not paying withholding taxes and had no workman's comp insurance (who'da thunk it?) The massage parlor owners are PROFITTING from these exploited pretty women!!!!!!!! OMG OMG OMG!!!!!!!!!!!

Yet it is OK to have Hispanic men working on dairy farms for little pay, no benefits, sleeping in the barns living in filth, using the field for a toilet, smuggled in by Coyotes...THAT's OK. Pretty Asian women lubing you up and getting you off in a clean massage room with a shower first and sleeping on a normal bed in a separate room is somehow horrible! Sleeping in a barn, bathing with a garden hose, using the weeds as a toilet and working long hours for little pay and no benefits...that's OK

We should SLAM closed ANY employer that exploits humans for profit. But so far only pretty Asian women get any protection...screw the brown men cleaning cow sh*t

THAT's how Democrats feel about the underclass...

Also saw a report that under Oboma the gap between blacks and other Americans has become worse in almost every category. Income disparaging, unemployment, number of blacks on disability and the list goes on.

Yet he is the messiah

Oh if people would just start paying attention

He is pandering to Walmart.

He is scared he will lose the Senate in the 2014 election if Obamacare is fully implemented. There is a proper procedure for this...it is called REPEAL. There is no procedure for the President to simply strike down a law or parts of a law...except in Obama's Amerika.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Democrats are racist and always have been. First they killed 600,000 Americans in support of slavery, then fought against equal rights and now have changed tactics to make blacks dependent on government to keep them under control. I can assure you that Dee Dee will always live, work and raise her children exactly where the local democrats want her to. She will eat whatever they decide she is allowed to buy with food stamps. She has no freedom, no choices, and neither will her children. If you disagree with that, they will call YOU a racist.

This was made abundantly clear during Hurricane Katrina and yet we allow it to continue and continue and continue.

Here in Vermont a recent exposee in a local paper "exposed" that Asian massgae parlors were actually (wait for it!) offering SEX for money! Now, no one here is going to get too excited about prostitution since it barely rates as a crime and in a state where a female pekinese can legally marry a female doberman pincher, no one gives a sh*t about an Asian woman giving an American man a hand job...but this was EXPLOITATION!!!!!!!!!! EXPLOITATION I TELL YOU! HUMAN TRAFFICKING! OMG

Why? Because their immigration status "was not clear" (this means they are illegal) and they were not being paid proper wages and receiving benefits...just tips...and were "trapped" in these massage parlors, sleeping on beds in a separate room. Really? They were not paying withholding taxes and had no workman's comp insurance (who'da thunk it?) The massage parlor owners are PROFITTING from these exploited pretty women!!!!!!!! OMG OMG OMG!!!!!!!!!!!

Yet it is OK to have Hispanic men working on dairy farms for little pay, no benefits, sleeping in the barns living in filth, using the field for a toilet, smuggled in by Coyotes...THAT's OK. Pretty Asian women lubing you up and getting you off in a clean massage room with a shower first and sleeping on a normal bed in a separate room is somehow horrible! Sleeping in a barn, bathing with a garden hose, using the weeds as a toilet and working long hours for little pay and no benefits...that's OK

We should SLAM closed ANY employer that exploits humans for profit. But so far only pretty Asian women get any protection...screw the brown men cleaning cow sh*t

THAT's how Democrats feel about the underclass...

He is pandering to Walmart.

He is scared he will lose the Senate in the 2014 election if Obamacare is fully implemented. There is a proper procedure for this...it is called REPEAL. There is no procedure for the President to simply strike down a law or parts of a law...except in Obama's Amerika.

Gary we have the massage parlor thing here also. The difference in Jose working in the peach orchard and Ling Ling working at the Asian Spa is that in most cases Jose is their by choice.

Often times these Asian girls are sold into slavery or held hostage against their will. That is the big difference.

As far as what two consenting adults do behind closed doors of their own free will. None of my business. If a girl wants to sell sex and it's her freewill.. I have no problem with that. None of the governments business.

However if any human is being held against their will in this country and for forced labor,Sex or any other non judicial reason, then I have a big problem.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Gary we have the massage parlor thing here also. The difference in Jose working in the peach orchard and Ling Ling working at the Asian Spa is that in most cases Jose is their by choice.

Often times these Asian girls are sold into slavery or held hostage against their will. That is the big difference.

As far as what two consenting adults do behind closed doors of their own free will. None of my business. If a girl wants to sell sex and it's her freewill.. I have no problem with that. None of the governments business.

However if any human is being held against their will in this country and for forced labor,Sex or any other non judicial reason, then I have a big problem.

I am not arguing the circumstances of how they got there. I am noting the solution to the problems are the same.

the Vermont Dept of Labor swooped into these massage parlors (all three of them) and slammed them shut. Why? Because they had not paid workman's comp or state withholding tax! The girls are gone, my guess is that they are still doing the rub n' tug somewhere, what'dya think? They have no authority to handle "human trafficking" but they can enforce state labor laws

What I am saying is we need to SLAM these dairy farmers, peach orchards, landscape companies, roofers. SLAM 'em closed. Your hire illegals, you exploit humans, you get SHUT DOWN. This is the USA and we do not allow workers do work in inhumane conditions for wages and benefits below that which is required by the laws we passed! Period. It is not up to the worker to allow himself to be exploited.

If Hispanics are someone blessed with the amzing ability to pick peaches better than Americans, then you had better hire LEGAL Hispanics. Or will the phrase change to..."they are only doing what Americans and legal Hispanics won't do" ???

[Darnell 8,478]

self-employed can use a schedule C when filing taxes

and

that medical stuff can be deducted 100 percent under 'other' expenses,

if'n the taxpayer isn't smart enough to use the other stuff available on the IRS Form 1040 its-own-self.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

self-employed can use a schedule C when filing taxes

and

that medical stuff can be deducted 100 percent under 'other' expenses,

if'n the taxpayer isn't smart enough to use the other stuff available on the IRS Form 1040 its-own-self.

That is not the concern, Darnell. Many self employed chose not to be insured, that was their choice. If they choose that now, they will be fined. "deducted" just means they don't pay income tax on that money, but they still pay the premiums and Obamacare will increase premiums.

For younger self employed persons it will be cheaper to pay the penalty, at least the first three years, than pay the premiums and they will still be covered!

The problem is two fold...Obama has negated a portion of a LAW which he has no authority to do and that portion benefits large employers. not small ones and not self employed. Obama has caved in to the Walmarts and Wall Street and "the 1%" and violated the constitution to do it!

At this point the Republicans should demand this move be blocked by the courts and have another vote on repealing or amending the LAW. If the LAW is to be postponed, that should be done legislatively.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

How come the topic title does not match the OP article?

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

I am not arguing the circumstances of how they got there. I am noting the solution to the problems are the same.

the Vermont Dept of Labor swooped into these massage parlors (all three of them) and slammed them shut. Why? Because they had not paid workman's comp or state withholding tax! The girls are gone, my guess is that they are still doing the rub n' tug somewhere, what'dya think? They have no authority to handle "human trafficking" but they can enforce state labor laws

What I am saying is we need to SLAM these dairy farmers, peach orchards, landscape companies, roofers. SLAM 'em closed. Your hire illegals, you exploit humans, you get SHUT DOWN. This is the USA and we do not allow workers do work in inhumane conditions for wages and benefits below that which is required by the laws we passed! Period. It is not up to the worker to allow himself to be exploited.

If Hispanics are someone blessed with the amzing ability to pick peaches better than Americans, then you had better hire LEGAL Hispanics. Or will the phrase change to..."they are only doing what Americans and legal Hispanics won't do" ???

That we agree on. Deny services, schools and non emergency care to illegals. Drop a hob nailed boot on people that employ them. End of problem

[Karee 4,190]

I The girls are gone, my guess is that they are still doing the rub n' tug somewhere, what'dya think? T

Probably right across the border in Quebec. Those places are everywhere. I think they are all run by bikers though. At least they used to be.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

That is not the concern, Darnell. Many self employed chose not to be insured, that was their choice. If they choose that now, they will be fined. "deducted" just means they don't pay income tax on that money, but they still pay the premiums and Obamacare will increase premiums.

For younger self employed persons it will be cheaper to pay the penalty, at least the first three years, than pay the premiums and they will still be covered!

The problem is two fold...Obama has negated a portion of a LAW which he has no authority to do and that portion benefits large employers. not small ones and not self employed. Obama has caved in to the Walmarts and Wall Street and "the 1%" and violated the constitution to do it!

At this point the Republicans should demand this move be blocked by the courts and have another vote on repealing or amending the LAW. If the LAW is to be postponed, that should be done legislatively.

I am on Cobra right now for my wife and I. It runs out in Sep and I will rely on my VA and her on a major Med policy, hopefully.

My Cobra is 1475.00 dollars per month for my wife and I. That is what it costs my company to have insurance for Self +1.

Medical costs are projected to triple in the next few years. It is very likely that the cost of insurance is going to cost over 1k per person to cover someone in the National Health Care Pool.

So how many uninsured people could afford to plunk down 3500 K + per month for a family of 4. Not many I know.

So is the Govt just going to basically provide health coverage for all non insured.

The money has to come from somewhere.

What we have to do is free doctors to practice medicine . Example..

My wife had an allergic reaction to crab the other night. We had to go the emergency room.

She needed a shot of Epinephrine. I have seen my dad do it many times over the years as an old country doctor and patients coming to our house.

He gave her an injection of Benadryl. I had already given her 2 doses orally. She did not need that.

Then he gives her an injection (Prednisone) steroid for the rash. Once again not contact dermatitis- she did not need it.

Then we get a Prevacid Orally--- Once again not needed. and that was a ####### ?

Now we get down to what we came for --The EPI we got it ... Yeah.. 30 mins later she is almost asymptomatic. 2 hours later, you would never know she had been sick

We got a script for 2 EPI Pens-- cool we needed that

We got a script for a round of prednisone-- I filled it in case needed it later but told her not to take, once again not needed unless rash persists as in poison ivy and other contact dermatitis. No one should take prednisone unless needed. Not really good for you.

Get this we got a prescription for Diphenhydramine . Guess what that is.. Benadryl and dirt cheap over the counter. I threw it away.

So why do you think the doctor so so over treated her.

A. She had good insurance

B Law Suits.

We should have been able to go to an aid station. See an RN. Get an EPI injection and been gone. What is so frustrating is I knew exactly what was wrong and what we needed.

Instead the Hospital will bill the insurance company 1000 +. They will be rejected. They will retro review. They will approve but write it down to about 400.00 bucks. After 3 months and many hours spent on the claim it will be paid. The claim will cost more than the treatment should have.

Fix Medicine first.

[Darnell 8,478]

cobra/corba is a joke .

it's much cheaper to purchase direct through blue cross / blue shield.

why you not go to an ethnic clinic ? they are much cheaper and don't run the through the litany of ####### to 'try' - they'll fix it the first time,.

Edited July 7, 2013 by Darnell

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

cobra/corba is a joke .

it's much cheaper to purchase direct through blue cross / blue shield.

why you not go to an ethnic clinic ? they are much cheaper and don't run the through the litany of ####### to 'try' - they'll fix it the first time,.

Cobra is the price my company is paying or was for my insurance Company is. Paying for

[Darnell 8,478]

you are lucky THEY are paying for it.

Most folk pay for it, instead.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Probably right across the border in Quebec. Those places are everywhere. I think they are all run by bikers though. At least they used to be.

Very likely. Despite no law against nudity at all and a very open attitude there are NO strip clubs in Vermont. We couldn't even keep a "Hooter's" open for lack of interest. Montreal is chock full of them! And massage parlors and even more blatantly advertised services.

The massage places were owned by (big suprise, wait for it) the SAME two brothers that owned a string of Chinese buffet restraunts here until 2006 when they were found to be employing illegal Chinese aliens and not paying them anything but "tips". Their "wages" were confiscated to pay off "their debt" and they had 31 employees living in a house which shared a parking lot with the police department in Essex Jct. The women illegal alieans were "allowed" to earn "extra off their debt" by providing...you guessed it!...SEX to male employess and store owners.

Last year it was discovered that the same person providing good strong Hispanic men to do honorable work on dairy farms, sleep in cow feces, have no benefits and other stuff LEGAL Hispanics won't do because they no longer have to...was also providing a traveling RV full of illegal women Hispanics for...you guessed it again!... SEX with the male Hispanic dairy farm workers. Presumeably these were "rolls in the hay for pay"

The Chinese Restraunts were closed for not paying their state tax and workman's comp. No one was charged with a crime, the employees vanished. The brothers switched to illegal Korean prostitutes. I guess they have that "Asian Fever" attraction for Asian women. That must be it. The places re-opened under new ownership as Chinese Buffets. (Hey I love a Chinese buffet as much as the next guy. Heaven is Chinese food, a British house, American salary and a Ukrainian wife.)

The farms were ignored and the legislature recently approved issuing driver's license to "migrant farm workers so they can go to the grocery store" I am not sure if that includes migrant prostitutes working the farms.

This is the face of illegal immigration. When the "reform" makes these people "legal" they will no longer be interested in sleeping in feces and working for less than minimum wage with no benefits, their employers will not be interested in paying all the taxes, workman's comp, Obamacare and all the other expenses they have been avoiding until then. They are not going to be pleased to give the same workers a 100% increase in pay and benefits after wage increases and payroll taxes, insurance costs.

They will hire more illegals. Who will be surprised?