Zimmerman Trial Live Feed - Day Nine

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Does the trial resume today? Where is Day 10? Guys, I'm lost...

Admitting the problem is the first step

Congrats proud of you

[Penny Lane 8,159]

Admitting the problem is the first step

Congrats proud of you

I need commentary on this trial so I know what to think. These threads have been up like clockwork for the last 9 days. What happened?

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

I need commentary on this trial so I know what to think. These threads have been up like clockwork for the last 9 days. What happened?

It's 8:00 Am on the Left Coast. I doubt RG is up yet or online yet

He is the only one authorized to make them.

Be patient Dear

and good morning Ma'am

[Penny Lane 8,159]

I don't like when something throws off the routine.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

I don't like when something throws off the routine.

[Karee 4,190]

I don't like when something throws off the routine.

He may have taken his marbles and went home. P&R isn't for everyone apparently.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Right, I keep speculating various possibilities. Obviously you don't.

My point is that since you are speculating, why aren't you considering the very real possibility that TM had reasonably feared for his life that night? There is ample evidence that suggests he was.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

My point is that since you are speculating, why aren't you considering the very real possibility that TM had reasonably feared for his life that night? There is ample evidence that suggests he was.

What simple evidence is that ? He approached GZ, while he was sitting in his car. Why would someone in great fear of their life do that. ?

Then he got away and came back to confront him

Asserting TM was scared is laughable at best and deranged at worst

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Asserting TM was scared is laughable at best and deranged at worst

Of course.

[Ban Hammer 13,342]

My point is that since you are speculating, why aren't you considering the very real possibility that TM had reasonably feared for his life that night? There is ample evidence that suggests he was.

yeah, a gunshot tends to do that.

[lostinblue 1,989]

My point is that since you are speculating, why aren't you considering the very real possibility that TM had reasonably feared for his life that night? There is ample evidence that suggests he was.

Travon was by his house according to the states witness. Too scared to go inside. shut the door and call police? The racist thug kill me a cracker set out to do just that. He wanted to kill himself a cracker ...

He stalked zimmerman... Look at the distance from his fathers home to where the attack was, Sucker punched him, had started to ground and pound. He used cement as a deadly weapon as well as his fist. George screamed for help ....t never came so as a last resort shot his attacker to keep from being killed .Instead of being on 911 all this time Travon was talking to his girlfriend. He did not fear for anything. Like I said "kill me a cracker" has a lot to do with this case....He set out to KILL him a cracker

[spookyturtle 9,465]

My point is that since you are speculating, why aren't you considering the very real possibility that TM had reasonably feared for his life that night? There is ample evidence that suggests he was.

If TM feared for his life, he should have run home and called the police. That is probably what most people would do. Why aren't you considering that? Because it doesn't fit the GZ was on a big game safari and trying to bag himself a bad guy? There was ample time for him to run home and call the cops. Imagine how foolish GZ would have looked if that had happened? The thug calling the cops on him? Priceless. But unfortunately TM didn't run home. Even his gal pal testified that she told him to run. He was being followed by a crazy a$$ cracker, yet he still didn't go home for help.

Regardless of what the nut bags on either side think, I personally find it tragic when someone young loses there life before it even really began. Sad to say, it happens fairly often and in different ways. Kids do dumb things without thinking about the consequences of their actions. There was a case in Foxboro, MA back in the 90's where two young teens, neither of driving age, took mom and dad's SUV for a joy ride at 2AM. The police were pursing them for speeding, but evidently they were scared to stop because they would get in trouble. Tragically, they hit a tree at 90+mph and were killed instantly. No need for their deaths, but they made bad choices that proved to be fatal.

Every year at high school graduation time there is always a fatal accident or two with teens driving drunk, even though they are underage and not legally able to drink. Or maybe there is no drinking or drugs involved, just speeding and losing control and it's all over. We've all read about these incidents many times. And how about the kids that decide to go out on the lake in a canoe drunk at night and drown? Tragic again. Do they deserve to die? Surely not IMO, but they made a bad choice and tragedy struck.

GZ is responsible for his actions, not those of TM. TM is responsible for himself, not what GZ did. I find it sad that TM lost his life as a result of this. Unlike the tough talkers here, I don't think he deserved to die or had it coming to him. But he did make a bad decision or two that contributed to his death.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

If TM feared for his life, he should have run home and called the police.

Okay, spooks. I'm going to stop you right there. Can you not see your being biased here? If we both agree that what happened between Zimmerman and Martin once their paths had crossed is mostly speculative, why are so quick to dismiss any possibility that TM reasonably feared for his life? And what evidence was I referring to? The phone conversation with his gf, stating that he wanted to run and her telling him not to run. GZ stating in his call to the police dispatcher, "Oh sh!t, he's running away." The detective stating the same thing - that to him, it sounded like TM was afraid for his life. He didn't know who GZ was, didn't know why he kept watching him, following him in his vehicle, then getting out of his vehicle once TM ran to get away. It doesn't take a stretch of the imagination to believe that TM was afraid of GZ.

Compare that to GZ's claim of being afraid for his life - he already called the cops and knew they'd be there in minutes. He didn't have to get out of his vehicle and was told not to. His reaction, "Oh sh!t, he's running," in connection with his other comments like, 'these as$holes always get away,' paints a different picture combined with the fact that he was armed that night.

It's all good that you have an opinion about who you really think was guilty of the altercation, but I think your claim of not having a horse in this race has long expired. You're being just as biased as anyone else.

[spookyturtle 9,465]

Twist it all you want. He didn't run home. As slow as I am I could have run that distance a few times in the time frame that was available. TM attacked GZ. GZ wasn't afraid until the attack with TM in the superior position. That is why George yelled for help. TM made a poor choice. He should have gone home and called the police. That is what I would have done, but then again, I'm not a tough guy. How many minutes did TM have to get home?

So I'm biased, but you are clearly impartial and objective?

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Twist it all you want. He didn't run home. As slow as I am I could have run that distance a few times in the time frame that was available. TM attacked GZ. GZ wasn't afraid until the attack with TM in the superior position. That is why George yelled for help. TM made a poor choice. He should have gone home and called the police. That is what I would have done, but then again, I'm not a tough guy. How many minutes did TM have to get home?

So I'm biased, but you are clearly impartial and objective?

There's no twist until you jump from what is known, to what is speculative. The problem with this trial is that GZ will be found innocent or guilty based on circumstantial evidence and so far, that evidence shows that any fear he had for his life that night was NOT reasonable.

So it was George yelling for help? What evidence sealed the deal on that conclusion? You do realize that the frantic yells stopped immediately after the gunshot, which is more inline with it coming from the person who got shot - can't talk anymore.