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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Colombia
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My Colombian wife says that her Colombian friend is marrying a man from England. She says that after the wedding in Colombia, they will simply go to the Colombian emabassy and receive their visa in 2 days.

I told her I had never heard of anything like that. She said "England is different than the United States".

She also says she knows of an English girl who married a Colombian man. Presto, change-o, visa in 2 days (although that was in the past, not sure how long ago).

Is this Visa-2-days-after-marriage thing real? And if so, in retrospect, did we really do the right thing breaking away from the "motherland" with all that Boston Tea Party nonsense? :lol:

NOTE: I strongly suspect my wife has been grossly misinformed...? :unsure:

USCIS (CR-1)

06/30/2006 Mailed I-130 USPS Overnight Mail to Nebraska (NSC)

07/03/2006 Express Mail signed for at NSC

07/08/2006 Found out on VJ that my case is transferred to California (CSC)

07/21/2006 NOA1

11/02/2006 NOA2

NVC

11/13/2006 NVC Case # Assigned

11/20/2006 DS-3032 and AOS Fee Bill generated

11/21/2006 Emailed Choice of Agent (from wife/non-USC) in lieu of DS-3032

11/21/2006 Sent AOS Fee Bill Payment via USPS Overnight Mail

11/30/2006 NVC Processed AOS Fee Bill Payment (still no record of receiving Choice of Agent Email)

12/04/2006 Sent DS-3032 Choice of Agent USPS Overnight

12/11/2006 Received I-864 Affidavit of Support (AOS) in mail

12/11/2006 Sent I-864 AOS to NVC via USPS Overnight

12/11/2006 Immigrant Visa (IV) Fee Bill Generated

12/18/2006 Received IV Fee Bill in the mail

12/18/2006 Sent IV Fee Bill payment to NVC via USPS Overnight

01/03/2007 Sent DS-230 USPS Overnight

01/08/2007 NVC processed DS-230

01/12/2007 Received DS-230 (Part 1) and the list of "Documents You Need to Obtain" for Embassy Interview in mail

02/06/2007 Case Complete @ NVC

02/13/2007 Case sent to Embassy

Embassy

03/15/2007 Received Interview Instructions (aka Packet 4)

04/03/2007 Lab Tests

04/04/2007 Medical Exam

04/10/2007 Interview (Conditional Approval)

04/12/2007 Visa Approved!

04/18/2007 Visa in Hand, Gracias a Dios !!!

04/19/2007 Arrival in USA !!! (POE = Atlanta)

05/29/2007 Received Green Card in mail

www.MarriageBuilders.com

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My Colombian wife says that her Colombian friend is marrying a man from England. She says that after the wedding in Colombia, they will simply go to the Colombian emabassy and receive their visa in 2 days.

I told her I had never heard of anything like that. She said "England is different than the United States".

She also says she knows of an English girl who married a Colombian man. Presto, change-o, visa in 2 days (although that was in the past, not sure how long ago).

Is this Visa-2-days-after-marriage thing real? And if so, in retrospect, did we really do the right thing breaking away from the "motherland" with all that Boston Tea Party nonsense? :lol:

NOTE: I strongly suspect my wife has been grossly misinformed...? :unsure:

Do you mean the British Embassy? There is no Colombian embassy in Colombia. Or did you mean they're going to the Colombian Embassy in London to get a visa to live in Colombia?

Either way, two days doesn't seem that unreasonable. I suspect that, for a typical US visa case, the total time that your file is worked on by human isn't much more than two working days. A crude estimate can be figured based on the fees charged, and the fact that Congress has said that the fees are supposed to cover the expenses. The fees for a visa wouldn't cover more than a day or three of labor at an auto mechanic's shop, and I suspect the government overhead and salary of an adjudicator means that the same money buys fewer hours work from the government than from a car dealership.

If a country had less convoluted immigration laws than the US laws (not that hard to imagine), then the hours of labor needed to process visas could be a LOT shorter.

The biggest reason visas take so long in the US is that, for almost all the time your paperwork is in the system, bureaucrats are working on applications filed before yours was filed. They only work for a couple of hours on your paperwork, but it takes many months for your paperwork to get to their desk. If a country hired enough adjudicators so that they could, on average, process applications at a rate slightly faster than the applications came in, then there wouldn't be a big backlog, and the time required to get a visa wouldn't be that much different than the time required to get a passport or a driver's license.

But there's not a lot of political pressure to speed up the US Visa process. Most people don't know or care very much, and a significant number of voters would prefer to slow things down even more.

04 Apr, 2004: Got married

05 Apr, 2004: I-130 Sent to CSC

13 Apr, 2004: I-130 NOA 1

19 Apr, 2004: I-129F Sent to MSC

29 Apr, 2004: I-129F NOA 1

13 Aug, 2004: I-130 Approved by CSC

28 Dec, 2004: I-130 Case Complete at NVC

18 Jan, 2005: Got the visa approved in Caracas

22 Jan, 2005: Flew home together! CCS->MIA->SFO

25 May, 2005: I-129F finally approved! We won't pursue it.

8 June, 2006: Our baby girl is born!

24 Oct, 2006: Window for filing I-751 opens

25 Oct, 2006: I-751 mailed to CSC

18 Nov, 2006: I-751 NOA1 received from CSC

30 Nov, 2006: I-751 Biometrics taken

05 Apr, 2007: I-751 approved, card production ordered

23 Jan, 2008: N-400 sent to CSC via certified mail

19 Feb, 2008: N-400 Biometrics taken

27 Mar, 2008: Naturalization interview notice received (NOA2 for N-400)

30 May, 2008: Naturalization interview, passed the test!

17 June, 2008: Naturalization oath notice mailed

15 July, 2008: Naturalization oath ceremony!

16 July, 2008: Registered to vote and applied for US passport

26 July, 2008: US Passport arrived.

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Colombia
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My Colombian wife says that her Colombian friend is marrying a man from England. She says that after the wedding in Colombia, they will simply go to the Colombian emabassy and receive their visa in 2 days.

I told her I had never heard of anything like that. She said "England is different than the United States".

She also says she knows of an English girl who married a Colombian man. Presto, change-o, visa in 2 days (although that was in the past, not sure how long ago).

Is this Visa-2-days-after-marriage thing real? And if so, in retrospect, did we really do the right thing breaking away from the "motherland" with all that Boston Tea Party nonsense? :lol:

NOTE: I strongly suspect my wife has been grossly misinformed...? :unsure:

Do you mean the British Embassy? There is no Colombian embassy in Colombia. Or did you mean they're going to the Colombian Embassy in London to get a visa to live in Colombia?

Either way, two days doesn't seem that unreasonable. I suspect that, for a typical US visa case, the total time that your file is worked on by human isn't much more than two working days. A crude estimate can be figured based on the fees charged, and the fact that Congress has said that the fees are supposed to cover the expenses. The fees for a visa wouldn't cover more than a day or three of labor at an auto mechanic's shop, and I suspect the government overhead and salary of an adjudicator means that the same money buys fewer hours work from the government than from a car dealership.

If a country had less convoluted immigration laws than the US laws (not that hard to imagine), then the hours of labor needed to process visas could be a LOT shorter.

The biggest reason visas take so long in the US is that, for almost all the time your paperwork is in the system, bureaucrats are working on applications filed before yours was filed. They only work for a couple of hours on your paperwork, but it takes many months for your paperwork to get to their desk. If a country hired enough adjudicators so that they could, on average, process applications at a rate slightly faster than the applications came in, then there wouldn't be a big backlog, and the time required to get a visa wouldn't be that much different than the time required to get a passport or a driver's license.

But there's not a lot of political pressure to speed up the US Visa process. Most people don't know or care very much, and a significant number of voters would prefer to slow things down even more.

Don't feel so bad. My next door neighbor has lived in the US for 1 year on an HB-1 Work Visa. He's from Ibague...I'm from Medellin, we live next door to each other in Atlanta...I've lived in the US for 27 years and I'm a US Citizen since the age of 18....We both got married in Medellin in July, His wife was here two weeks later....I'm still HOME ALONE!!!!!!!!!

7/19/06 - Married in Medellin

9/4/06 - Submitted I-130

9/18/06 - NOA1 Recieved

9/25/06 - Submitted I-129F

9/27/06 - NOA1 Recieved

11/22/06 - NOA2 Recieved for BOTH I-129F & I-130(APPROVED!!!)

1/22/07 - 1st Interview in Bogota (221g Issued, new appointment scheduled)

02/16/07 - 2nd Interview (Visa Denied)

2/21/07 - Contacted Senator Saxby Chambliss GA for Assitance

7/23/07 - 3rd Interview - Visa Approved!!!!!!!

11/13/07 - POE - JFK

AOS...A new journey begins

2/7/08 - AOS Officially In Mail _ Overnight Mail to Chicgo

2/8/08 - Recieved in Chicago

2/14/08 - NOA1 Recieved

3/11/08 - Biometrics Appointment

4/11/08 - Recv'd Email - EAD Approved, Card Production Ordered

4/15/08 - Recv'd EAD Card, Applied for SS Card

4/21/08 - Recv'd SS Card

4/20/09 - Interview Date

6/12/09 - AOS Approved

7/25/09 - Received Green Card in Mail

4/23/11 - 2nd Interview - Approved Lifted Conditions

12/13/2012 - Naturalization Ceremony (FINALLY OVER)

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Turkey
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Well, I have heard that many times too. Not only England, most of the European countries issue a visa for the spous of their citizen in a few dayes. Then its about 2-3 months for the permanent resident visa.

Only the US greencard takes this long. But again it also varies by each case. Japanese ppl for example, gets the greencard fastest. (1-3 months). My wifes brother went to japan to marry his fiance about 1 month before my wife came to Turkey to marry me. His wifes I130 was approved in 1 week. NVC process took little over a month. and she got the visa in total of 2 months. My wife used the same paper work for NVC(my wife and her bro both having dad co sponsor, so the same financial papers for nvc) our nvc stage took 6 months(they asked for more documents that they did for her bro) and I130 got approved in 4 months. and the total of 1 year waiting.

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Well, I have heard that many times too. Not only England, most of the European countries issue a visa for the spous of their citizen in a few dayes. Then its about 2-3 months for the permanent resident visa.

Only the US greencard takes this long. But again it also varies by each case. Japanese ppl for example, gets the greencard fastest. (1-3 months). My wifes brother went to japan to marry his fiance about 1 month before my wife came to Turkey to marry me. His wifes I130 was approved in 1 week. NVC process took little over a month. and she got the visa in total of 2 months. My wife used the same paper work for NVC(my wife and her bro both having dad co sponsor, so the same financial papers for nvc) our nvc stage took 6 months(they asked for more documents that they did for her bro) and I130 got approved in 4 months. and the total of 1 year waiting.

My friend is British and she married her penpal (who she had written to for years) who was American. He came over here on a three month visitor visa (before VWP) and they got married. He went back to the USA shortly afterwards, sold his stuff and applied to the British Consulate (he's from SF) for a spouse visa for the UK.

Took 2 weeks.

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Colombia
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Why in the world has this been moved to "Off Topic"?

My guess would be... that the IR-1/CR-1 discussion board is only for US Citizen-to-Foreigner marriages?

If that is the case, does anyone know of a discussion board where I can find people in England marrying other folks?

Thanks in advance...

USCIS (CR-1)

06/30/2006 Mailed I-130 USPS Overnight Mail to Nebraska (NSC)

07/03/2006 Express Mail signed for at NSC

07/08/2006 Found out on VJ that my case is transferred to California (CSC)

07/21/2006 NOA1

11/02/2006 NOA2

NVC

11/13/2006 NVC Case # Assigned

11/20/2006 DS-3032 and AOS Fee Bill generated

11/21/2006 Emailed Choice of Agent (from wife/non-USC) in lieu of DS-3032

11/21/2006 Sent AOS Fee Bill Payment via USPS Overnight Mail

11/30/2006 NVC Processed AOS Fee Bill Payment (still no record of receiving Choice of Agent Email)

12/04/2006 Sent DS-3032 Choice of Agent USPS Overnight

12/11/2006 Received I-864 Affidavit of Support (AOS) in mail

12/11/2006 Sent I-864 AOS to NVC via USPS Overnight

12/11/2006 Immigrant Visa (IV) Fee Bill Generated

12/18/2006 Received IV Fee Bill in the mail

12/18/2006 Sent IV Fee Bill payment to NVC via USPS Overnight

01/03/2007 Sent DS-230 USPS Overnight

01/08/2007 NVC processed DS-230

01/12/2007 Received DS-230 (Part 1) and the list of "Documents You Need to Obtain" for Embassy Interview in mail

02/06/2007 Case Complete @ NVC

02/13/2007 Case sent to Embassy

Embassy

03/15/2007 Received Interview Instructions (aka Packet 4)

04/03/2007 Lab Tests

04/04/2007 Medical Exam

04/10/2007 Interview (Conditional Approval)

04/12/2007 Visa Approved!

04/18/2007 Visa in Hand, Gracias a Dios !!!

04/19/2007 Arrival in USA !!! (POE = Atlanta)

05/29/2007 Received Green Card in mail

www.MarriageBuilders.com

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: England
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Why in the world has this been moved to "Off Topic"?

My guess would be... that the IR-1/CR-1 discussion board is only for US Citizen-to-Foreigner marriages?

If that is the case, does anyone know of a discussion board where I can find people in England marrying other folks?

Thanks in advance...

There are british expat sites online look on google.

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Why in the world has this been moved to "Off Topic"?

My guess would be... that the IR-1/CR-1 discussion board is only for US Citizen-to-Foreigner marriages?

If that is the case, does anyone know of a discussion board where I can find people in England marrying other folks?

Thanks in advance...

Ummm, maybe cuz Visa Journey is ONLY for any US based immigration????

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Filed: Country: United Kingdom
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NOTE: I strongly suspect my wife has been grossly misinformed...? :unsure:

Nope, buy wifey a drink--she wins.

A spousal visa to the UK takes one day on a walk-in to a UK Consulate. Have your papers and $500 ready.

Of course, the downside is that you have to *live* in the UK <ducks>. :lol:

The other group you're looking for is britishexpats.com or uk-yankee (google, don'thave the URL)

Now That You Are A Permanent Resident

How Do I Remove The Conditions On Permanent Residence Based On Marriage?

Welcome to the United States: A Guide For New Immigrants

Yes, even this last one.. stuff in there that not even your USC knows.....

Here are more links that I love:

Arriving in America, The POE Drill

Dual Citizenship FAQ

Other Fora I Post To:

alt.visa.us.marriage-based http://britishexpats.com/ and www.***removed***.com

censored link = *family based immigration* website

Inertia. Is that the Greek god of 'can't be bothered'?

Met, married, immigrated, naturalized.

I-130 filed Aug02

USC Jul06

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Colombia
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NOTE: I strongly suspect my wife has been grossly misinformed...? :unsure:

Nope, buy wifey a drink--she wins.

A spousal visa to the UK takes one day on a walk-in to a UK Consulate. Have your papers and $500 ready.

Of course, the downside is that you have to *live* in the UK <ducks>. :lol:

The other group you're looking for is britishexpats.com or uk-yankee (google, don'thave the URL)

WOW... thanks for the info, meauxna, and others who have responded.

USCIS (CR-1)

06/30/2006 Mailed I-130 USPS Overnight Mail to Nebraska (NSC)

07/03/2006 Express Mail signed for at NSC

07/08/2006 Found out on VJ that my case is transferred to California (CSC)

07/21/2006 NOA1

11/02/2006 NOA2

NVC

11/13/2006 NVC Case # Assigned

11/20/2006 DS-3032 and AOS Fee Bill generated

11/21/2006 Emailed Choice of Agent (from wife/non-USC) in lieu of DS-3032

11/21/2006 Sent AOS Fee Bill Payment via USPS Overnight Mail

11/30/2006 NVC Processed AOS Fee Bill Payment (still no record of receiving Choice of Agent Email)

12/04/2006 Sent DS-3032 Choice of Agent USPS Overnight

12/11/2006 Received I-864 Affidavit of Support (AOS) in mail

12/11/2006 Sent I-864 AOS to NVC via USPS Overnight

12/11/2006 Immigrant Visa (IV) Fee Bill Generated

12/18/2006 Received IV Fee Bill in the mail

12/18/2006 Sent IV Fee Bill payment to NVC via USPS Overnight

01/03/2007 Sent DS-230 USPS Overnight

01/08/2007 NVC processed DS-230

01/12/2007 Received DS-230 (Part 1) and the list of "Documents You Need to Obtain" for Embassy Interview in mail

02/06/2007 Case Complete @ NVC

02/13/2007 Case sent to Embassy

Embassy

03/15/2007 Received Interview Instructions (aka Packet 4)

04/03/2007 Lab Tests

04/04/2007 Medical Exam

04/10/2007 Interview (Conditional Approval)

04/12/2007 Visa Approved!

04/18/2007 Visa in Hand, Gracias a Dios !!!

04/19/2007 Arrival in USA !!! (POE = Atlanta)

05/29/2007 Received Green Card in mail

www.MarriageBuilders.com

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Colombia
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If a country had less convoluted immigration laws than the US laws (not that hard to imagine), then the hours of labor needed to process visas could be a LOT shorter.

They only work for a couple of hours on your paperwork, but it takes many months for your paperwork to get to their desk. If a country hired enough adjudicators so that they could, on average, process applications at a rate slightly faster than the applications came in, then there wouldn't be a big backlog, and the time required to get a visa wouldn't be that much different than the time required to get a passport or a driver's license.

Well said! :thumbs:

USCIS (CR-1)

06/30/2006 Mailed I-130 USPS Overnight Mail to Nebraska (NSC)

07/03/2006 Express Mail signed for at NSC

07/08/2006 Found out on VJ that my case is transferred to California (CSC)

07/21/2006 NOA1

11/02/2006 NOA2

NVC

11/13/2006 NVC Case # Assigned

11/20/2006 DS-3032 and AOS Fee Bill generated

11/21/2006 Emailed Choice of Agent (from wife/non-USC) in lieu of DS-3032

11/21/2006 Sent AOS Fee Bill Payment via USPS Overnight Mail

11/30/2006 NVC Processed AOS Fee Bill Payment (still no record of receiving Choice of Agent Email)

12/04/2006 Sent DS-3032 Choice of Agent USPS Overnight

12/11/2006 Received I-864 Affidavit of Support (AOS) in mail

12/11/2006 Sent I-864 AOS to NVC via USPS Overnight

12/11/2006 Immigrant Visa (IV) Fee Bill Generated

12/18/2006 Received IV Fee Bill in the mail

12/18/2006 Sent IV Fee Bill payment to NVC via USPS Overnight

01/03/2007 Sent DS-230 USPS Overnight

01/08/2007 NVC processed DS-230

01/12/2007 Received DS-230 (Part 1) and the list of "Documents You Need to Obtain" for Embassy Interview in mail

02/06/2007 Case Complete @ NVC

02/13/2007 Case sent to Embassy

Embassy

03/15/2007 Received Interview Instructions (aka Packet 4)

04/03/2007 Lab Tests

04/04/2007 Medical Exam

04/10/2007 Interview (Conditional Approval)

04/12/2007 Visa Approved!

04/18/2007 Visa in Hand, Gracias a Dios !!!

04/19/2007 Arrival in USA !!! (POE = Atlanta)

05/29/2007 Received Green Card in mail

www.MarriageBuilders.com

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