Confused... denied

[PrincessHalo 7]

Interview went today for my fiance in New Delhi, India. he said they said no due to lack of relationship proofs. I am not sure what more they wanted shy of me standing there (which they dont allow). he brought a stack of proofs. we made extras of everything and included so much to be sure we had it all. if we didnt know what to take we took all.

he took to the interview:

photos together from when we met,

letters and package tops to show mail addressed to and from eachother with the stamp dates,

email records taken over several months,

skype logs over several months,

phone chat records,

facebook posts / photos

engagement ring receipt and photos of it on,

the emails and call records are huge. not just a page or two, one day hold several pages of correspondence times several months. each topic had many pages of examples. the moment one wakes up we call and talk until the other has to go to sleep or work. we are talking / texting for several HOURS daily. i cant get enough of him. i miss him so much.

what do we do now? i'll never give up on him. help

[Anonymous885 44]

You did not list boarding pass?. Can you visit him again for another boarding pass and take more pictures with him? Pictures need to take at different places and you guys need to wear different clothes every time. That is my suggestion. Good luck.

[loughrey101 13]

Interview went today for my fiance in New Delhi, India. he said they said no due to lack of relationship proofs. I am not sure what more they wanted shy of me standing there (which they dont allow). he brought a stack of proofs. we made extras of everything and included so much to be sure we had it all. if we didnt know what to take we took all.

he took to the interview:

photos together from when we met,

letters and package tops to show mail addressed to and from eachother with the stamp dates,

email records taken over several months,

skype logs over several months,

phone chat records,

facebook posts / photos

engagement ring receipt and photos of it on,

the emails and call records are huge. not just a page or two, one day hold several pages of correspondence times several months. each topic had many pages of examples. the moment one wakes up we call and talk until the other has to go to sleep or work. we are talking / texting for several HOURS daily. i cant get enough of him. i miss him so much.

what do we do now? i'll never give up on him. help

Well boarding passes are a great idea but are not absolutely necessary if you don't have them because people can lose those. They won't expect you to travel all the way to see each other again just to obtain them. But if you have any primary evidence such as receipts, boarding passes, credit card bills etc. that put you and him in the same geographical location then collect all of those and send them to him. Also, another thing would be to show evidence of recent correspondence since you received the petition approval. You might also want to both write a new and updated letter of intent with it clearly dated and signed by both of you to indicate you are both still in a relationship and both still intend on marrying since the petition approval.

[PrincessHalo 7]

Well boarding passes are a great idea but are not absolutely necessary if you don't have them because people can lose those. They won't expect you to travel all the way to see each other again just to obtain them. But if you have any primary evidence such as receipts, boarding passes, credit card bills etc. that put you and him in the same geographical location then collect all of those and send them to him. Also, another thing would be to show evidence of recent correspondence since you received the petition approval. You might also want to both write a new and updated letter of intent with it clearly dated and signed by both of you to indicate you are both still in a relationship and both still intend on marrying since the petition approval.

boarding passes, email volumes, chat logs, proof of first/earliest email, photos, our cell phone bills we got over seas for time/location, ring receipt, hotel bill receipts, letter of intent were sent with the original submission.

in the packet for the interview he head additional proofs he took what i had listed above, plus receipts of gifts he bought me on line that were mailed to my address, yahoo messenger, new letter of intents were written, photos together from when we met, letters and package tops to show mail addressed to and from each other with the stamp dates, email records taken over several months, skype logs over several months, phone chat records, facebook posts / photos, original engagement ring receipt and photos of it on, im not sure what else. we had a cosigner just incase. we had so much stuff.

he said the guy asked him to list the proofs and not really look at it, so he told him what he had and they took the forms and called him back in to say not convinced. almost 2 years talking for hours daily? this has been a long journey, and im ready to have him come home to me.

but i really think it came down to the fact that he was not interviewing in his own country. the man asked a lot of questions that my fiance said he felt the denial was coming. my fiance is iraqi citizen going to school in india, and just graduated recently with his masters, but we didnt meet in india, we took a holiday to Jordan, my bestfriend lives there, and i thought it would be good to meet her too if i was flying over the world. i could meet both at the same trip. but sounds the guy thought i flew to meet her and tour and not him! he kept asking why i didnt go to inida. well, i didnt want to go to india, i wanted to go some place else, to meet my friend and tour jordan with them. then he asked why didnt we marry in india. really? first because ive never been there, second we filed fiance. so many questions that were set up with negative tone.

anyways, what to do now. file in his home country? marry some place else and try again? how to appeal? get a lawyer?

[Penguin_ie 5,993]

How often have you met?

Any red flags such as recent divorce, different religions, age difference?

[PrincessHalo 7]

hmm. no divorce no kids, clean slates. he is muslim, so we were already expecting to be checked extra heavy, but felt confident with nothing to hide, i am 'white' and he is arab. we are only 2 years apart so no problem there.

[PrincessHalo 7]

we were only able to meet once, we were in anticipation of the visa to be approved at any time, so we were saving the money for his trip to here. we were on the edge of crazy missing eachother, but we were trying to be strong apart to make it to be together. now we are broken and lost what to do next.

[Falene 8]

When my fiance had his interview in Delhi, they would not take any of the evidence. We had a similar situation with negative questions including why we are not getting married in India. I don't understand how a decision can be made when so few questions were asked. Now we are stuck in admin processing with no idea how long it will take. At least you received a quick decision and now you can take some action. I think all that you have listed are possible, but you will have to decide which will work best for your situation. Good luck on whatever you decided to do. I can relate to your pain of being separated for so long.

[sara..... 371]

from my experience with New Delhi its a pain in the mmm well anyway what i wanted to ask could it have anything to do with the fact that he is Iraqi? they are really tough on the men that are Indian in nationality so im guessing that could be the problem also if you dont see each other for a long time they dont like that either

sara

[NigeriaorBust 4,087]

It is common in medium and high fraud consulates that they expect more than one visit. It isn't in the instructions but it goes a long way to proving a valid relationship. You have to go above and beyond the instructions to increase your chances of approval. Study what is the "norm" for you consulate.

[Operator 1,927]

Interview went today for my fiance in New Delhi, India. he said they said no due to lack of relationship proofs. I am not sure what more they wanted shy of me standing there (which they dont allow). he brought a stack of proofs. we made extras of everything and included so much to be sure we had it all. if we didnt know what to take we took all.

he took to the interview:

photos together from when we met,

letters and package tops to show mail addressed to and from eachother with the stamp dates,

email records taken over several months,

skype logs over several months,

phone chat records,

facebook posts / photos

engagement ring receipt and photos of it on,

the emails and call records are huge. not just a page or two, one day hold several pages of correspondence times several months. each topic had many pages of examples. the moment one wakes up we call and talk until the other has to go to sleep or work. we are talking / texting for several HOURS daily. i cant get enough of him. i miss him so much.

what do we do now? i'll never give up on him. help

Was he given a denial letter? If so, you need determine what the denial is for.

If it was denied because they don't believe in your relationship the will send everything back to USCIS to make a determination. USCIS will contact you and give you an opportunity to submit more evidence.

If USCIS agrees with the embassy they will issue an NOIR (Notice Of Intent to Revoke). This can take up to a year from the interview.

Find out what he was given at the interview.

Edited July 2, 2013 by Operator

[Mel&Lal 12]

hmm. no divorce no kids, clean slates. he is muslim, so we were already expecting to be checked extra heavy, but felt confident with nothing to hide, i am 'white' and he is arab. we are only 2 years apart so no problem there.

[andy ngeci 18]

i have seen so many denials with india embassy. especially where an indian is marrying a white man/woman. that they say the indian fiance or spouse is taking advantage of USC and just want to go to america. its so sad! for your case i dont know why the denied him am sure there is something u can do so dont u ever give up. maybe he can go back iraq and u guys get married and apply spousal visa

[Mel&Lal 12]

hmm. no divorce no kids, clean slates. he is muslim, so we were already expecting to be checked extra heavy, but felt confident with nothing to hide, i am 'white' and he is arab. we are only 2 years apart so no problem there.

So sorry for your denial Unfortunately New Delhi is not kind to interacial couples from what I read, and the last I heard you could attend the interview there. Most interracial couples that have gotten approve l was because the UC was there at the interview. I have read up on this alot due to the fact that we are a interracial couple and my fiance is actually a Indian. So I do wish you good luck on your next move!

[lonelywithouthim1 36]

It is common in medium and high fraud consulates that they expect more than one visit. It isn't in the instructions but it goes a long way to proving a valid relationship. You have to go above and beyond the instructions to increase your chances of approval. Study what is the "norm" for you consulate.

I agree....I'm so sorry, I know how you feel. Did you only meet him once and in Jordan? if so that could be the red flag. What ever you decide to do, I would suggest you meet him in India or in his country where he have friends and family. I know it's not on the instructions but they may want to see acknowledgement of your relationship by his family and friends. We had a huge engagement in his country (that's the norm there) but I would not have done the same in the U.S. What is the norm in Iraqi culture? Good Luck.