Zimmerman Trial Live Feed - Day Seven

[Penny Lane 8,159]

All charges were dropped. Not saying GZ was a saint. I am rebuffing the comment you made that he clearly has an anger problem, although every bit of testimony given to date said he was calm and did nothing to make anyone think he acted out of malice.

His neighbor testified he was a nice guy and always very calm and respectful

The 9-11 operator said his manner and voice was calm and did not show any reason for concern

The cop doing the interview said the same

The detective said the same

Yet Penny Lane the expert says he has an anger problem, because she wants it to be true and just made up things. Yet any of us that dare point out TM had a very troubled past, well ! we are just judgmental and trying to judge a poor black kid . ( Paraphrase)

Just pointing out how hypocritical your position is.

All I've said all along is that if you're going to judge one, judge the other. Sorry you can't seem to grasp it.

But thank you for confirming that TM's pictures on his phone and suspensions from school make him a thug, and GZ's record matters very little because he had his charges reduced.

Edited July 2, 2013 by Penny Lane

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

In 2005, Zimmerman was arrested and charged with "resisting officer with violence" and "battery of law enforcement officer." Both these felonies are considered third-degree. Due to his desperate attempts, the charges were reduced to "resisting officer without violence" and then the only remaining charge was also completely waived off when he entered an alcohol education program.

Thank you for the truth

All I've said all along is that if you're going to judge one, judge the other. Sorry you can't seem to grasp it.

Ok you said GZ had an Anger problem. You are basing this on what.

[Ban Hammer 13,583]

It wasn't a fabrication, it was a mistake. His former fiancee put out a restraining order on him due to domestic violence.

and he had one on her too, as i understand it.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

Ok you said GZ had an Anger problem. You are basing this on what.

I told you what I'm basing it on. The same kind of thing you base your assumptions about TM on.

[spookyturtle 9,466]

In 2005, Zimmerman was arrested and charged with "resisting officer with violence" and "battery of law enforcement officer." Both these felonies are considered third-degree. Due to his desperate attempts, the charges were reduced to "resisting officer without violence" and then the only remaining charge was also completely waived off when he entered an alcohol education program.

Even if charges are dropped you are still guilty. At least according the legal experts at VJ. If GZ is aquitted, the same experts will say he was really guilty and come up with a million excuses why he was aquitted.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

and he had one on her too, as i understand it.

Yes, I read that out of retaliation, he got one out on her as well.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

All I've said all along is that if you're going to judge one, judge the other. Sorry you can't seem to grasp it.

But thank you for confirming that TM's pictures on his phone and suspensions from school make him a thug, and GZ's record matters very little because he had his charges reduced.

Well many of the Tm supporters have told us what TM did is not important. I agree both backgrounds are important, but it seems only one is allowed to be discussed.

[Ban Hammer 13,583]

Yes, I read that out of retaliation, he got one out on her as well.

of course. that's the only time a guy gets a restraining order on a woman.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Yet I only see TM's past being brought up. I wonder why that is.

Because the defense knows that Zimmermann's violent past is devastating to his self defense claim. This is why they had it excluded from the trial. And anything that gets a killer off the hook naturally earns the cheering of the "shoot first, ask questions later crowd here in P&R".

[Penny Lane 8,159]

Even if charges are dropped you are still guilty. At least according the legal experts at VJ. If GZ is aquitted, the same experts will say he was really guilty and come up with a million excuses why he was aquitted.

Charges were dropped because he agreed to go to an alcohol program. His other charge was reduced.

Does that mean the incidents did not happen?

[RGinWA 816]

Thank you for the truth

Ok you said GZ had an Anger problem. You are basing this on what.

Well he did commit homicide.

Oh, and TM had the infamous violent tweet, forgot about that evidence.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

of course. that's the only time a guy gets a restraining order on a woman.

Is that what I said?

Well many of the Tm supporters have told us what TM did is not important. I agree both backgrounds are important, but it seems only one is allowed to be discussed.

I've seem TM's past discussed here far more than GZ's. I dunno about you.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Yes, I read that out of retaliation, he got one out on her as well.

Who knows? He's a wimpy guy. Maybe his ex fiancee really kicked his #######.

Edited July 2, 2013 by Mr. Big Dog

[spookyturtle 9,466]

Charges were dropped because he agreed to go to an alcohol program. His other charge was reduced.

Does that mean the incidents did not happen?

If a tree falls in the forest and no is there to observe it, does it make a noise?

[RGinWA 816]

If a tree falls in the forest and no is there to observe it, does it make a noise?

Or does it make it firewood just like the other trees?