meeting poverty guidelines

[TISAY 1]

I believe we have all of those...w2..itr..letter of emplyment..paystubs and bank statements

Whew!!! What a relief.....I just don't understand why they would tell us we are short, was is it just an honest mistake? But yeah whatever the reason is ...I'm just so glad to know that I Should have nothing to worry about...thanks so much guys to hank and tintin and mike steve b..and evryone thank u so much

[Hank_ 9,174]

Here

Excerpt:

Affidavit of Support For Fiancé(e), Spouse, or Child as a “K” Nonimmigrant

Income Requirements

You also must meet certain income requirements (whether you are a sponsor, a joint sponsor, or a substitute sponsor). You must show that your household income is equal to or higher than 125% of the U.S. poverty level for your household size. (Your household size includes you, your dependents, any relatives living with you, and the immigrants you are sponsoring.)

If you, the sponsor, are on active duty in the Armed Forces of the United States, and the immigrant you are sponsoring is your spouse or child, your income only needs to equal 100% of the U.S. poverty level for your household size.

To see if you are above the poverty level, see the “Form I-864P” link to the right.

If You Can’t Meet the Minimum Income Requirements
If you cannot meet the minimum income requirements using your earned income, you have various options:

• You may add the cash value of your assets. This includes money in savings accounts, stocks, bonds, and property. To determine the amount of assets required to qualify, subtract your household income from the minimum income requirement (125% of the poverty level for your family size). You must prove the cash value of your assets is worth five times this difference (the amount left over).
  • Exceptions:
    • If the person being sponsored is a spouse, or son/daughter (who is 18 years or older) of a U.S. citizen: The minimum cash value of assets must be three times the difference between the sponsor’s household income and 125% of the federal poverty guide line for the household.
    • If the person being sponsored is an orphan coming to the United States for adoption: The adoptive parents’ assets need to equal or exceed the difference between the household income and 125% of the federal poverty line for the household size.

hey hank.. I am unable to find this requirement.. where did you get it? I checked the 134 instructions, but don't see it there, I was under the impression it would follow the 864

I posted the info but did not quote back to you... look up a post or two.

[stevie b 141]

The are K-1 so 5 times IS correct.

unbelievable.. and on the 864 instructions if it is for a spouse or child it is 3X.. no wonder it is the misinformation department

[Hank_ 9,174]

unbelievable.. and on the 864 instructions if it is for a spouse or child it is 3X.. no wonder it is the misinformation department

Yup spouse (IR/CR-1) and child are 3 times. Not sure why the difference with the K-1, after all they are married 90 days after arrival and are THEN spouse... its the government...

[Greenbaum 12,259]

Retired or working doesn't matter, the guidelines are the same. You must meet or exceed 125% of the Poverty Guidelines, these numbers are listed on the I-864P. http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/i-864p.pdf

Now if you are not working, collecting SS income (which is not taxable unless certain limits are exceeded) you should get a benefits evidence letter, you can get this from MY SOCIAL SECURITY, simply log onto your account and it can be created from there and printed.

Between your SS income and your investments income you still need to show yearly income that meets OR exceeds the guidelines listed in the I-864P.

Now for me (yes I am retired) I have SS income plus a few others that are not taxable so I do not complete a tax return. Yes my wife (then fiancée) was approved without me presenting a tax return. You need to complete the worksheet in the 915 pamphlet this will show whether your income is taxable or not. (you will need to do this again with AOS as they want proof you income is not taxable).

Bring copies of the benefits evidence letters, statements from your investment accounts, bank statements and other account statements showing assets. If you exceed the requirements you will be fine.

Oh, if the petitioner can be there for the interview for sure go... its a great experience! Necessary? No.

Thanks for the answers.

At what age or circumstance is a dependent not consider for this purpose? I would assume that any 18yo would no longer be considered a dependent. Right?

Also, how will they consider a 20yo daughter of the Filipino mother? Is she considered a dependent and will be lumped into the equation to determine the 125%?

Here is a brake down of dependents. Who would be considered for the equation? Note; expected interview will be 10/2013.

My son is 20yo

My twin daughters are 17 now, 18you birthday is 3/2014

Her daughter is 20yo.

Her son is 11yo

Thanks

[Hank_ 9,174]

Thanks for the answers.

At what age or circumstance is a dependent not consider for this purpose? I would assume that any 18yo would no longer be considered a dependent. Right?

Also, how will they consider a 20yo daughter of the Filipino mother? Is she considered a dependent and will be lumped into the equation to determine the 125%?

Here is a brake down of dependents. Who would be considered for the equation? Note; expected interview will be 10/2013.

My son is 20yo

My twin daughters are 17 now, 18you birthday is 3/2014

Her daughter is 20yo.

Her son is 11yo

Thanks

If you do not claim your son on your tax return (which at 20 is doubtful) then he doesn't count, your daughters are still minors so as long as you are claiming them on your tax return they count.

As for our fiancée daughter and son, if you listed them on the I-129F petition and they are getting K-2 visas they also count.

Your income per the I-864P needs to meet or exceed the guidelines for a family of 6.

You will have to watch the birthday of your fiancée daughter, she needs to get the K-2 visa before she turns 21 if memory serves.

[Greenbaum 12,259]

If you do not claim your son on your tax return (which at 20 is doubtful) then he doesn't count, your daughters are still minors so as long as you are claiming them on your tax return they count.

As for our fiancée daughter and son, if you listed them on the I-129F petition and they are getting K-2 visas they also count.

Your income per the I-864P needs to meet or exceed the guidelines for a family of 6.

You will have to watch the birthday of your fiancée daughter, she needs to get the K-2 visa before she turns 21 if memory serves.

My son is not being claimed but the girls are, so they will be claimed for the income guidelines and not him.

Fiancée daughter and son are listed on the I-129F so they will be listed in the income guidelines.

Got it.

The fiancée daughter is 19 but her birthday is this month so she is still under the wire for another year and we expect our interview in Oct so things today look alright.

Thanks for the answers. Have a good day.