The Quote That Should End the Trayvon Trial

[RGinWA 816]

The first witness on the scene to the murder. Arrived when TM was still alive and GZ on top.

Here is my discrepancy at 18:40 GZ now has his cellphone and asks the only up close witness to secure it for him and call his wife.

In the other walk through version he forgot his phone correct? Or am I mistaken?

[RGinWA 816]

According to travons woman he was by his house,,, this means he wanted to kill me a cracker and tried to make that come true, Travon was the ONLY one talking about killing that night.

'White, Kill-My-Neighbors Cracker code word for kill zimmerman

The line was "some killer cracker" Meaning he thought he was creepy looking.

Nice way to twist that...you are lost in blue.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

OK, I watched this and it really proves nothing. Even the prosecutor said the Zimmerman's may have not known. The judge said he needs more info about the accounts at that time. So this video doesn't prove anything about George lying about money. Perhaps another one does when the judge gets the information that he requests?

Judge revokes Zimmerman's bond

Seminole County Circuit Judge Kenneth Lester Jr. ordered Zimmerman to surrender to the county sheriff no later than Sunday afternoon.

Lester accused Zimmerman of having misrepresented how much money he had when his bond was originally set in April. Prosecutors say he had $135,000 at the time Zimmerman's wife, Shellie, told the court, under oath, that they were indigent.

The prosecution cited as evidence recorded telephone conversations that Zimmerman had with his wife prior to the hearing. The conversations were recorded while Zimmerman was being held in the Seminole County Jail after being charged with second-degree murder on April 11.

Edited June 30, 2013 by Mr. Big Dog

[spookyturtle 9,465]

The first witness on the scene to the murder. Arrived when TM was still alive and GZ on top.

Here is my discrepancy at 18:40 GZ now has his cellphone and asks the only up close witness to secure it for him and call his wife.

In the other walk through version he forgot his phone correct? Or am I mistaken?

You are mistaken. In both of the other videos he states that he was looking for his cellphone because he didn't put it in the pocket that he usually does. I believe in one of the videos he said it was in his jacket pocket. And I haven't watched this video. it is getting late and this video is longer and I want to watch it closely and pay attention. Is the phone the only discrepancy you find in this video or are there more? His phone story still checks out.

[Dan and Judy 614]

Zimmermann had more than a minute and a half to go back to his vehicle once he was advised not to follow Martin. He claims that is what he was doing. Yet, at no time was he more than 30 seconds away from his vehicle. So why could he not make it back there in over a minute and a half? Did he get lost?

Just for the record, in the video George starts walking back towards the car at a normal speed and it took him 24 sec to get the intersection of the T which was less than half way back to the car, so your 30 seconds to the car doesn't hold water

He starts back at 9:31 in the video and gets to the T intersection at 9:55, 24 seconds

However I dont believe he was heading to the car either.

[RGinWA 816]

I need the Kevin Costner's JKF grassy Knoll triangulated cross fire summation, with all the times synced up, because someone needs to officially bottle the ends.

Too bad football doesn't start sooner.

[spookyturtle 9,465]

His wife lied to the court and he knew about it. It also seems he lied to his lawyer too.

[spookyturtle 9,465]

I need the Kevin Costner's JKF grassy Knoll triangulated cross fire summation, with all the times synced up, because someone needs to officially bottle the ends.

Too bad football doesn't start sooner.

Yea, I can't wait. Wes Welker is a Bronco, Gronk will probably miss the beginning of the season recovering from back surgery and Hernandez is in prison. Great.

[RGinWA 816]

911 audio of GZ call.

Disregard the pictures. I picked the audio only, no added commentary.

[Dan and Judy 614]

His wife lied to the court and he knew about it. It also seems he lied to his lawyer too.

I believe his lawyer instigated it. I believe they have some evidence to that effect but dont remember what it is

[RGinWA 816]

Yea, I can't wait. Wes Welker is a Bronco, Gronk will probably miss the beginning of the season recovering from back surgery and Hernandez is in prison. Great.

Seahawk fan here...yeah baby.

[Dan and Judy 614]

What the pro Trayvoners have failed to point out is that in the video, where he claims to have been confronted by Trayvon is about 30 ft away from where they ended up.

According to the story in the video Trayvon was between Zimmerman and where they ended up. So logicaly if they were tussling at that spot, Zimmerman pushed him

back 30 ft before getting knocked down.

I believe Zimmerman turned down the leg of the T and would have been walking slowly since he couldn't see well and was looking for Trayvon

I think they met just about where it ended

[spookyturtle 9,465]

911 audio of GZ call.

Disregard the pictures. I picked the audio only, no added commentary.

This matches what he said in the other 2 police videos.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

No, he can and will punch holes into what Zimmermann told him because it does not match the evidence that's been collected and that is available. When the foundation of Zimmermann's defense - his own story is all he has - is shown to be a fabrication, then Zimmermann has no defense left. He lied to the police and made up a story that is incompatible with the available evidence. He will do time.

Zimerman does not need a defense. The prosecutions case in it self was enough defense

[one...two...tree 2,762]

It's not a peeing contest. I'm merely pointing out that Zimmermann was not going back to his car after being advised not to follow Martin as he claimed. He also lied about when and why he left his car in his written statement to police. There's a reason why the investigators wanted him charged and arrested the night he killed Martin - that reason is that his story doesn't add up.

Yep, and this is crucial because Zimmerman maintains that he was not following Martin when his actions indicate otherwise. He claims Martin jumped him from behind as he was heading back to his vehicle (trying to convey that at that point, he was merely minding his own business).

(the following scenario is not only possibly, but plausible, given GZ's history of being hot tempered and getting violent when he felt sleighted)

GZ had studied law enforcement - he had a pretty good handle on what would qualify as self defense if and when he would decide to use his gun, but he was conflicted that night because of his temper. He wasn't about to let another one get away this time. He was prepared, he had been training in MMA, he had his gun... and the lousy dispatcher (not even a police officer) tells this badas$ to back off and let the police do their job, only they never do their job because these as$holes always get away. ** that! GZ was going to be hero that night and bag one. He was going to settle a score with all the fvcking punks who have gotten away with breaking into his neighborhood before. So he put that proverbial chip on his shoulder, following the suspect into the darkness hoping that this fvcking punk would dare to challenge him...and it worked! The fvcking punk is going ballistic! GZ just puts his arms up to block because he doesn't want it to look like a brawl, but he gets clocked in the nose by the fvcking punk. The kid is yelling at him, asking him why he was following him, but GZ doesn't answer him because if TM stops after he's told that GZ is the neighborhood watchman and that the police are minutes away, he might run off and shooting him in the back would be difficult to explain. GZ fumbles/trips on the ground and TM lays into him. Now it's beginning to look more favorable if GZ decides to use lethal force. The kid is still ballistic, not knowing who GZ is or why he was following TM - he's afraid for his life and his adrenaline is shooting through his veins. He just wants this creepy stranger to stop following him - he was fighting for his life, in his mind. Then a shot came. TM collapses. GZ grabs him and overtakes him, but the TM's now lifeless body shows no willingness to continue fighting. GZ sees the first neighbor and tells him he shot someone in self defense.

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Now lets revisit highlights from the police interview:

Sanford Police Detectives Chris Serino and Doris Singleton interviewed George Zimmerman in the hours and days after he killed Trayvon Martin. Newly released video and audio proves that they both had serious reservations about his story, reports the Miami Herald.

Detailing his encounter with Martin, Zimmerman told Singleton that the “bad guys always get away. ” This prompted Serino to accuse Zimmerman of profiling:

“You wanted to catch him. You wanted to catch the bad guy, the f—–g punk who can’t get away,” Serino said.

Zimmerman replied, “I wasn’t following him; I was just going in the same direction he was.”

Serino responded, “That’s following.”

Serino referred to Zimmerman as probably being a “good guy,” but found it suspicious that his minor injuries didn’t match his account of being viciously beaten by a “child” carrying candy and an iced tea. He also noted that Zimmerman had no defensive wounds on his hands, as one would expect from such a violent struggle.

According to the Herald:

“That was a kid with a future, a kid with folks that care. Not a goon,” he said. “In his mind’s eye, he perceived you as a threat. He has every right to defend himself.”

Zimmerman repeatedly told police that Trayvon Martin sucker-punched him, tried to suffocate him and bashed his head into the concrete to the point it felt his “head was going to explode.” He said Trayvon tried to take his gun from him before saying: “You’re going to die tonight, motherf—–.”

But Serino wondered why Zimmerman’s skull wasn’t fractured, why he didn’t know the street names of a tiny neighborhood where he’d lived for three years… Serino got him to acknowledge what Trayvon’s parents and lawyers have said all along: that Zimmerman got out of his car that night not so much to check for an address to give police, but to find out where the teen went.

At that point Serino plays a 911 call where you can hear the screams in the background — Zimmerman claims that it’s him screaming and Martin’s mother, Sybrina Fulton, says that it’s clearly her son — and asked Zimmerman how is it that he’s screaming if Martin was covering his mouth.

“He just punched me in the nose. And I fell backwards and to the side, and somehow I wound up on my back. He ended up on top of me. And he just kept punching my face. And my head. And I was screaming for help,” Zimmerman said. (this coincides with the above scenario that I wrote)

“Shut the f— up,” Trayvon said as he kept punching him, Zimmerman recounted.

“He slammed my head into the concrete,” Zimmerman said. “Each time it felt like my head was going to explode… And then he covered my nose with one hand and my mouth with the other one. And he told me shut the f— up. And I couldn’t breathe. I was suffocating. And all I could think about was I didn’t want him to keep slamming my head against the concrete.” (GZ really wants to sell his self defense claim to the police making it sound like he was overpowered, that his arms were pinned and he couldn't throw off TM who weighed less than he)

In a separate interview, Singleton accuses Zimmerman of misleading her on the night of Martin’s death when he said that the only reason that he got out of his car was to verify the address for the police.

“You decided to get the address a fraction of a second after you said, ‘Oh s–t. He’s running?’” Det. Singleton said. “And it sounds like you’re running too.” (crucial piece of evidence that shows not only did GZ lie to police, he was in fact in pursuit of TM which again supports my scenario)

Zimmerman’s reply: It was just windy.

Listen to interviews below:

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http://newsone.com/2022288/zimmerman-police-interviews/

Edited June 30, 2013 by Lincolns mullet