Day 5- Zimmerman Trial

[OnMyWayID 1,489]

Google always works. I see you gave no answer. I have a computer on vacation and use it as I choose. Ukraine has the same internet you do.

I am not "white or black" on this issue. TM is an animal because he tried to kill someone for no reason. Not because he is black.

Can you give any plausible scenarios on how this becomes a guilty verdict?

How about fear that an "innocent" verdict might cause riots? If they are all talking and basically not liking Zimmerman - doubts but not 100% - they could give him up. I'm not sure how the prosecution slides the implied threat in but they are thinking about it...

Read the comments at the end of this article: http://globalgrind.com/news/what-white-people-dont-understand-about-rachel-jeantel-trayvon-martin-blog The first line of the first comment sums up the bulk of them "I'm a middle aged white woman...and I get her".. Falling all over themselves to prove they are not one of "those" people.. The jury could easily be thinking the same way.

I would not be over confident on an innocent verdict.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Cursive writing is racist against blacks, it is already in the news. (see other topic)

I am understanding with very little watching of this, that there was no need to prep her and no desire to. She is a character in a puppet show demanded by Al and Jesse and other racists. The charges were never filed for 2 months because the state KNEW this was legitimate self defense. None of this is news to anyone that knows the case. The attorneys know the answer to every question they ask before they ask it. All these people were interviewed, deposed and evidence was disclosed to each party.

The idea of this is to show everyone that it WAS self defense and "we even tried to prosecute...see"

Millions of dollars and abuse of an innocent man in an attempt to appease people that have no intent of being appeased.

We should all send a donation to GZ. He has been abused and discrimnated against because of his race.

What is so funny is that now the most bizzare of the talking heads are saying the Lawyers are saying the treated the poor little black girl different than white man.

I am so sick and tired of being told that anti-social,rude,racist behavior is just a cultural difference.

[Darnell 8,479]

Nature Boy! (pbuh) - please, can you switch gear again, or get a bigger keyboard? I have some sense I'm missing words you might have written...

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

How about fear that an "innocent" verdict might cause riots? If they are all talking and basically not liking Zimmerman - doubts but not 100% - they could give him up. I'm not sure how the prosecution slides the implied threat in but they are thinking about it...

Read the comments at the end of this article: http://globalgrind.com/news/what-white-people-dont-understand-about-rachel-jeantel-trayvon-martin-blog The first line of the first comment sums up the bulk of them "I'm a middle aged white woman...and I get her".. Falling all over themselves to prove they are not one of "those" people.. The jury could easily be thinking the same way.

I would not be over confident on an innocent verdict.

I am already hearing black leaders on Tv hinting at racial violence. I would hope justice prevails and this country can move forward.

[Darnell 8,479]

Oh, I do hope 'they' come in and devastate Sanford - IMO, that'd be best...

[OnMyWayID 1,489]

Cracker/the N word is not a racist remark among that community. Trayvon's (family) lawyer sez that's just a "cultural term".

So if they don't consider it wrong then why did she apologize in court before saying the word for the first time? Clearly she knew somebody would find it offensive.. "Sorry for my language.. cracker". Saying racist things so often that it becomes second nature doesn't make it cultural.

[RGinWA 816]

Too bad you're not on the jury. Sounds like you have it all figured out.

I would disqualify myself. I wouldn't be unbiased enough.

Mainly because we should be able to move freely in society without everyone calling 911 about suspicious behavior when the kid didn't commit a crime. If he had committed a crime or was proven to be ready to do that, maybe its his fault.

Regardless what you think of GZ, the loss of his liberty to be free to go to the store and come home is a loss to all of us.

Even if you want to call 911, call and then stay where you are unless you feel brave enough to either get killed or stand trial for murder. GZ was not a cop and did not represent authority to TM or anyone.

And its all over what? People had some cr@p taken out of their garage a few times? Let's shoot people over the stuff we accumulate, that's progress.

A better alternative, get some insurance.

[Karee 4,191]

Regardless what you think of GZ, the loss of his liberty to be free to go to the store and come home is a loss to all of us.

I agree with you. GZ should be free to go anywhere he wants without getting beat within an inch of his life.

[RGinWA 816]

I am already hearing black leaders on Tv hinting at racial violence. I would hope justice prevails and this country can move forward.

Regardless of what happens, the verdict is not racial or it should not be. Nobody should find him guilty to avoid that. That's worse than racism, that ruins any vestige of fairness we have left.

TM doesn't represent a race to me, he represents an idea of freedom I think was violated. Freedom to walk and go where the heck I want without being detained or followed based on suspicions. That's bigger than the 2nd amendment.

[Karee 4,191]

Regardless of what happens, the verdict is not racial or it should not be. Nobody should find him guilty to avoid that. That's worse than racism, that ruins any vestige of fairness we have left.

TM doesn't represent a race to me, he represents an idea of freedom I think was violated. Freedom to walk and go where the heck I want without being detained or followed based on suspicions. That's bigger than the 2nd amendment.

You have that freedom. However you don't have the freedom to just beat the $hit out of somebody. I don't care if they are following you.

[OnMyWayID 1,489]

What is so funny is that now the most bizzare of the talking heads are saying the Lawyers are saying the treated the poor little black girl different than white man.

I am so sick and tired of being told that anti-social,rude,racist behavior is just a cultural difference.

Nice to see both sides doing what they can to make it a reality... News sources drudging up the worst tweets they can find and then parading them as the sediment of the masses and then writing a story around them. But hey if it brings in ratings...

[RGinWA 816]

I agree with you. GZ should be free to go anywhere he wants without getting beat within an inch of his life.

He was extremely far from his life being threatened...how many days in the hospital? How many stitches? Concussion? Anything other than a head ache?...inch of his life is a enormous stretch.

And I meant TM...typo.

You have that freedom. However you don't have the freedom to just beat the $hit out of somebody. I don't care if they are following you.

So you positively know TM started the fight?

That hasn't been presented yet. You should get that video to the Defense quick.

[Karee 4,191]

He was extremely far from his life being threatened...how many days in the hospital? How many stitches? Concussion? Anything other than a head ache?...inch of his life is a enormous stretch.

And I meant TM...typo.

Enormous stretch based on what? How do you know if the next punch to your head and face maybe the one that finishes you off?

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

I would disqualify myself. I wouldn't be unbiased enough.

Mainly because we should be able to move freely in society without everyone calling 911 about suspicious behavior when the kid didn't commit a crime. If he had committed a crime or was proven to be ready to do that, maybe its his fault.

Regardless what you think of GZ, the loss of his liberty to be free to go to the store and come home is a loss to all of us.

Even if you want to call 911, call and then stay where you are unless you feel brave enough to either get killed or stand trial for murder. GZ was not a cop and did not represent authority to TM or anyone.

And its all over what? People had some cr@p taken out of their garage a few times? Let's shoot people over the stuff we accumulate, that's progress.

A better alternative, get some insurance.

Actually we established neighbor hood watch here on my street after two young black males in hoodies broke in on my neighbor one Sunday morning while he was home.

The Sheriff gave us very special instructions on calling the Sheriff when things look out of place. Like he pointed out--we are a cut thru rural road. When cars go slow looking at the houses, he said call and let us check it out. He said we don not mind checking something out. Better be safe than sorry. he said you see someone walking around that you do not know and looks suspicious call us.

Young black males unfortunately are way over represented in crime stats. People fitting TM profile had committed several crimes in his area.

GZ sees a young black male standing under peoples awnings, not walking on the walk, going from home to home. Yes it rises to the point of suspicious and GZ did exactly what the Neighborhood watch people trained him to do.

He did Err in judgement in getting out of the car and looking for him. However I think it is clear now TM approached him and started the confrontation. Nothing gave TM the right to start pounding him to death "saying I am going to kill you" GZ had a right to be in fear of his life.

The new apology today is--Well we know it looks bad , but if GZ had not followed him it would never have happened.

True--However if TM had not pounded his face in and tried to kill him it would not have happened either. problem is following is not illegal. Assaulting someone is.

[Karee 4,191]

True--However if TM had not pounded his face in and tried to kill him it would not have happened either. problem is following is not illegal. Assaulting someone is.

That's it right there. I don't understand why people don't get that. It's very simple. Instead they have to cloud the conversation with all kinds of racial B.S. People throw out things like Skittles and Ice Tea. Who cares? Would it matter if he had M&Ms and Sprite?