Day 5- Zimmerman Trial

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

I think the focus is more on him maybe wanting to test his new skills on this up to no good arsehole that always gets away.

Stupid testosterone ####### happens all the time. Men are basically manipulated by their testicles. You would never see a woman in the same situation. You notice how many women in this case have their men under control? I guess it is not George's fault his woman failed to train him properly.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Stupid testosterone ####### happens all the time.

Yes, it does. And when someone ends up dead as a result, the surviving male typically gets to move into public facilities for a period of time.

[RGinWA 816]

I think the focus is more on him maybe wanting to test his new skills on this up to no good arsehole that always gets away. This is why the defense wanted the physician assistant to refer to Zimmermann's MMA training as "aerobics" rather than the fight training that Zimmermann actually and intensively pursued prior to playing police officer that night.

And the whole BMI line of questions should have been challenged.

Sly Stallone's BMI would be considered obese for every Rocky film with that scale.

The State is either setting up for another witness or fell asleep.

[himher 634]

We will find out. Once the prosecution completes its case, the judge will review the case presented so far, to meet the standard of prima facie If not, the case gets dismissed without further proceedings. Wanna bet that doesn't happen?

Yes. I believe this will go to the jury but only because that kid appears to have initially ran away and initially tried to avoid confrontation.

It may come down to asking the jury to define carrying a gun and following someone with intent to confront them then getting the confrontation you wanted and killing the guy COULD be interpreted as instigating the incident. No self-defense and no stand your ground defense applies if you start the fight.

Edited June 29, 2013 by himher

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

I think the focus is more on him maybe wanting to test his new skills on this up to no good arsehole that always gets away. This is why the defense wanted the physician assistant to refer to Zimmermann's MMA training as "aerobics" rather than the fight training that Zimmermann actually and intensively pursued prior to playing police officer that night.

I'd speculate that your wife isn't following kids around at night for no reason and shooting them dead either.

I don't know any one who has followed kids around fro no reason and killed them

[spookyturtle 9,465]

Yes. I believe this will go to the jury but only because that kid appears to have initially ran away and initially tried to avoid confrontation.

It may come down to asking the jury to define carrying a gun and following someone with intent to confront them then getting the confrontation you wanted and killing the guy COULD be interpreted as instigating the incident. No self-defense and no stand your ground defense applies if you start the fight.

Wasn't following the kid instigating something? And did it escalate when TM and GZ came face to face? It doesn't appear like either did anything to calm the situation when they came face to face. Someone threw the first punch. But who? I doubt that GZ had it in his head to kill TM while he was on the phone with the police. He did call the police, not just follow and attack. And only one person knows for sure.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

I don't know any one who has followed kids around fro no reason and killed them

Jeffrey Lionel Dahmer.

John Wayne Gacy, Jr.

Edited June 29, 2013 by The Patriot

[RGinWA 816]

Jeffrey Lionel Dahmer.

John Wayne Gacy

Wayne Williams - Atlanta Child Killer

[himher 634]

Wasn't following the kid instigating something? And did it escalate when TM and GZ came face to face? It doesn't appear like either did anything to calm the situation when they came face to face. Someone threw the first punch. But who? I doubt that GZ had it in his head to kill TM while he was on the phone with the police. He did call the police, not just follow and attack. And only one person knows for sure.

I do not think the intent is there either and I also believe he will be found not guilty. A point COULD be made that forcing a confrontation with someone who is actively running away from one while carrying a loaded gun does fall under the "willful disregard" definition of 2nd degree murder and that's why there is no way this won't go to the jury to decide.

[Darnell 8,478]

I don't know any one who has followed kids around fro no reason and killed them

He didn't resemble a 'kid' at that time of day, remember? Was right after sunset, yes? Hard to really see those child-like features without the sun a-shining.

I'm betting GZ thought he was a crack-head - all tall n skinny and non-white, wearing a hoodie and saggin...

Edited June 29, 2013 by Darnell

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

He didn't resemble a 'kid' at that time of day, remember? Was right after sunset, yes? Hard to really see those child-like features without the sun a-shining.

I'm betting GZ thought he was a crack-head - all tall n skinny and non-white, wearing a hoodie and saggin...

Skinny? He had a BMI of 22.

[RGinWA 816]

And Nature Boy, you can thank me for saving this weak 8 page thread and making it a respectable 12 page GZ trial thread.

You're welcome...

Now leave the GZ trial threads to the trained experts...Jiminy Crickets.

Skinny? He had a BMI of 22.

He was probably gonna die of a heart attack anyway...case dismissed.

Edited June 29, 2013 by RGinWA

[himher 634]

He didn't resemble a 'kid' at that time of day, remember? Was right after sunset, yes? Hard to really see those child-like features without the sun a-shining.

I'm betting GZ thought he was a crack-head - all tall n skinny and non-white, wearing a hoodie and saggin...

Ain't no way GZ could ever hope to match that boy's energy and stamina based on that man-sized girl of his

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

I don't know any one who has followed kids around fro no reason and killed them

I don't know any such person either. Nor do I want to know such creeps. But there's this dude down here in the sunshine state that fits the bill. He's standing trial right now. You might have heard of him.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

He didn't resemble a 'kid' at that time of day, remember? Was right after sunset, yes? Hard to really see those child-like features without the sun a-shining.

I'm betting GZ thought he was a crack-head - all tall n skinny and non-white, wearing a hoodie and saggin...

You're losing that bet, buddy. George could demonstrably make out the child-like features just fine. He described Martin to the dispatcher as a kid.

Zimmerman:

It’s a home. It’s 1950 – oh, #######, I don’t want to give it out – I don’t know where this kid is