Congress possibily amending immigration bill for illegals

[Karee 4,191]

Most immigrants are legal. Some are illegal. Same goes for firearms.

Maybe they should have some sort firearm amnesty. You can show up with your illegal gun, and get papers to make it legal.

That would of course stop people from illegally possessing firearms in the future...not.

[himher 634]

The French are Cheese-Eating Surrender Monkeys leapers hoppers

and their women have hairy legs pits

So as to not trigger mod action I will clearly state your post was changed. It was for your own good. Don't rile up the Germans. They're like "holy leaping $#%$" fearsome when they get pissed off. Its paperwork you don't need. Thank me later it was nothing really.

As to the other tweak we all know you meant to say hop. Might as well lay it all out on the table LOL

Edited July 5, 2013 by himher

[himher 634]

Maybe they should have some sort firearm amnesty. You can show up with your illegal gun, and get papers to make it legal.

That would of course stop people from illegally possessing firearms in the future...not.

You can show up with your illegal gun, pay a fee, and get papers to make it legal

Who needs buybacks when you can raise revenue from illegal gun-owners right?

[himher 634]

Since weapon restrictions are on the books already, they would appear to be real world. We even had an assault weapons ban on the books in the not too distant past. So I can continue to talk bout these things because they are real world stuff. Sorry, man. You've been pushing your luck a tad too far.

Key word being "had". "Had" summarizes attempts to achieve the impossible through stupid laws. Like the ban on alcohol and alcohol consumption we "had".

The solution is this: People who are here illegally do not qualify for public services period and private companies should not be forced to provide services to them either. People who hire people who are here illegally need to get those fines fixed at the cost of a regular full time employee at LEAST based on minimum wage for a year for every illegal worker they hire and the "prison term" that never in the existence of America has ever been handed needs to be taken off the books. If there is no benefit but a huge penalty for hiring and no benefit for being here then the problem will solve itself, no further laws needed.

If there is really a "labor shortage" then employers can legally sponsor them just like we sponsor professionals. It should be cheaper than being fined the equivalent cost of a full-time worker.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Maybe they should have some sort firearm amnesty. You can show up with your illegal gun, and get papers to make it legal.

That would of course stop people from illegally possessing firearms in the future...not.

Somewhat valid point. Of course, the firearms aren't really what's illegal. What's illegal is for certain individuals to own or - more generally - have their hands on them. But we keep flooding the country with ever more firearms anyways. And we make sure that those individuals continue to have easy and ready access to them - God forbid there were any kind of barricades to gun acquisition for felons. Why? Well, because there are so many firearms out there that you can't control that or change that anyways. So throw up those hands.

Truth be told, I'd be in favor of an amnesty for illegal gun ownership along the lines of the amnesty for illegal immigrants that is debated. How would that work? Well, we'd register all firearms (we're registering all immigrants, too, right?) and forgive those that are not eligible to own one the penalties for them fracturing the law. But we do collect their firearms, of course. Anyone who illegally owns a firearm after the registration period faces a stiff minimum sentence - much like illegal immigrants that don't come forward and register will find themselves outside the US borders if caught. Then we'd do uniform, federal background checks for every gun acquisition going forward - think of it as the e-verify equivalent. We'd reduce the amount of illegally owned firearms that way and restrict access to firearms to those that are not eligible to have them more effectively.

[Karee 4,191]

Somewhat valid point. Of course, the firearms aren't really what's illegal. What's illegal is for certain individuals to own or - more generally - have their hands on them. But we keep flooding the country with ever more firearms anyways. And we make sure that those individuals continue to have easy and ready access to them - God forbid there were any kind of barricades to gun acquisition for felons. Why? Well, because there are so many firearms out there that you can't control that or change that anyways. So throw up those hands.

Truth be told, I'd be in favor of an amnesty for illegal gun ownership along the lines of the amnesty for illegal immigrants that is debated. How would that work? Well, we'd register all firearms (we're registering all immigrants, too, right?) and forgive those that are not eligible to own one the penalties for them fracturing the law. But we do collect their firearms, of course. Anyone who illegally owns a firearm after the registration period faces a stiff minimum sentence - much like illegal immigrants that don't come forward and register will find themselves outside the US borders if caught. Then we'd do uniform, federal background checks for every gun acquisition going forward - think of it as the e-verify equivalent. We'd reduce the amount of illegally owned firearms that way and restrict access to firearms to those that are not eligible to have them more effectively.

Now we're getting somewhere. So they should take the firearm if the person is not legal to own it. That should also mean that they deport the illegal immigrant that's not supposed to be here. We've already been down the amnesty road once for illegal immigrants, and it didn't do a thing to stop other immigrants from breaking the law and coming here. In fact I think the flow of people increased by quite a bit after the first amnesty.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

So as to not trigger mod action I will clearly state your post was changed. It was for your own good. Don't rile up the Germans. They're like "holy leaping $#%$" fearsome when they get pissed off. Its paperwork you don't need. Thank me later it was nothing really.

As to the other tweak we all know you meant to say hop. Might as well lay it all out on the table LOL

Lol you had literary licesance to edit. No mod action needed

[himher 634]

Now we're getting somewhere. So they should take the firearm if the person is not legal to own it. That should also mean that they deport the illegal immigrant that's not supposed to be here. We've already been down the amnesty road once for illegal immigrants, and it didn't do a thing to stop other immigrants from breaking the law and coming here. In fact I think the flow of people increased by quite a bit after the first amnesty.

Amnesty means they get to keep the gun dude.

[spookyturtle 9,466]

Most immigrants are legal. Some are illegal. Same goes for firearms.

Nothing to do with the context of your post.