Zimmerman Trial Live Feed - Day Four

[decocker 7,198]

Why not... I am not from Florida nor from the hood so I am at a disadvantage on this stuff. So cracker is not a racist slur?

you asked if they carried the same weight as n*****, not if it was a racist slur.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

yeah, get back at me once white americans suffer 100 plus years in slavery and its aftershocks..

So black people can not be racists because of slavery ?

[RGinWA 816]

Are you saying Zimmerman was attempting to catch TM and hold him

GZ never ran? TM ran so GZ speed walked?

What was GZ's intention in "following very quickly" a person he did not know? So GZ was only trying to say hello?

I don't get where someone being followed at a fast pace wouldn't assume they were being chased at some point. Especially when the person "following" left their vehicle and pursued at a rapid pace but not chasing.

It's semantics, chase very quickly or speed following?

I would think someone was chasing me if they ever got out or a car and started running or "speed walking" after me.

But that's me and I have been beaten after being chased, but I stopped only because I ran out of breath and didn't want to be tackled from behind. Little did I know there was more than the one "follower". Hey, you catch a beating every once in a while. But I did get the first punch in...because there was little doubt there was bad intention in the rapid following of my pursuer. (In the wrong neighborhood as a teen.)

[Karee 4,190]

yeah, get back at me once white americans suffer 100 plus years in slavery and its aftershocks..

So does that special treatment go on forever? Is it 100 more years? 200 more years? Maybe 1000? I wasn't around during slavery. Neither was my family. They are from Poland. They were treated like $hit by the Germans. Seems like I should have some kind of special treatment coming from the Fatherland.

[RGinWA 816]

So black people can not be racists because of slavery ?

It's a racist statement, but its not where he was calling GZ a cracker to his face to enact a response, nor was GZ calling him a N. Lets remove race and stick to what the facts are in the case. He's talking street vernacular to a friend on the phone.

[B_J 2,752]

You've never been chased have you? If you had you'd stand there and wait for the person to act first? Do you think people chase others for good reasons at night? You must have been sheltered as a child.

Lets just say you'd only let that happen once and the second time memory and reflex would kick in.

First, I don't understand you're sudden interest in my life history. It's kind of unsettling.

Second, you act like when TM was being chased he had only two options. Turn and attack or wait and let GZ attack first. Remember, you already admitted that TM had lost GZ. GZ said it as well, he didn't know where TM was. So, there is a third option. TM could have kept going, made it home safely (since GZ had no idea where he was), and he'd still be alive today.

[Teddy B 17,252]

So does that special treatment go on forever? Is it 100 more years? 200 more years? Maybe 1000? I wasn't around during slavery. Neither was my family. They are from Poland. They were treated like $hit by the Germans. Seems like I should have some kind of special treatment coming from the Fatherland.

I hear you get a free pair of jackboots.

[Karee 4,190]

I hear you get a free pair of jackboots.

That's it? I was hoping for one of those pointy helmets from WWI.

[decocker 7,198]

So does that special treatment go on forever? Is it 100 more years? 200 more years? Maybe 1000? I wasn't around during slavery. Neither was my family. They are from Poland. They were treated like $hit by the Germans. Seems like I should have some kind of special treatment coming from the Fatherland.

i don't think that black people want special treatment. i think most people in america- black and white - want race to be a nonissue. but that isn't reality. as long as we have blacks incarcerated at six times the amount as whites, i'd say we have a special treatment issue with the PIC.

http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/race/news/2012/03/13/11351/the-top-10-most-startling-facts-about-people-of-color-and-criminal-justice-in-the-united-states/

First, I don't understand you're sudden interest in my life history. It's kind of unsettling.

would you rather he follow you around at a distance?

[RGinWA 816]

TM could have kept going, made it home safely (since GZ had no idea where he was), and he'd still be alive today.

That's what you speculate because nobody knows that's a fact or a reasonable available option.

He was killed 3/4 of a football field from the home, that's not really that close.

But you admit, TM was just going home when pursued correct?

I rest my case...

[B_J 2,752]

That's what you speculate because nobody knows that's a fact or a reasonable available option.

He was killed 3/4 of a football field from the home, that's not really that close.

But you admit, TM was just going home when pursued correct?

I rest my case...

Try posting something that makes sense before you rest.

[Teddy B 17,252]

That's it? I was hoping for one of those pointy helmets from WWI.

[Karee 4,190]

i don't think that black people want special treatment. i think most people in america- black and white - want race to be a nonissue. but that isn't reality. as long as we have blacks incarcerated at six times the amount as whites, i'd say we have a special treatment issue with the PIC.

http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/race/news/2012/03/13/11351/the-top-10-most-startling-facts-about-people-of-color-and-criminal-justice-in-the-united-states/

On the surface I'd say the high percentage of black people in prison probably has more to do with the high number of black people that live below the poverty level. Just a guess though. But we can keep grouping people by race vs. income levels. That will ensure that no one is ever equal. I'm starting to suspect that there are people in the minority communities that never want true equality. If they had that, they would have a hard time playing the eternal victim because of their race. It'd be tough to get some of that special treatment if you're considered equal.

Edited June 27, 2013 by Karee

[RGinWA 816]

That's it? I was hoping for one of those pointy helmets from WWI.

What about some Schnitzel? It's something...

Try posting something that makes sense before you rest.

Ditto...

[Karee 4,190]

What about some Schnitzel? It's something...

One of those paintings they have stashed away would be nice.