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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Pakistan
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Okay bottom line is you got a NOIR and you are running out of time.

Like everyone has stated you need to go over each item they mentioned in letter and address it with solid evidence. Get all affidavits notarized also.

Your biggest issue is you didn't know about husband and stated you didn't want to know. That screams not a bonafide relationship. Even though you may have one. You are to know everything and all things if possible.

So again go over each item on the NOIR list and gather your evidence quick. You only have one shot at this.

They ask us to submit answer in 30 days there objection were following:

.The petitioner is 12 years old then beneficiary,why?

.The petitioner and benifecry were married twice.

.The petitioner were married twice before to foreign nationals whom he petition for immigrant to us both time under spousal category.

.The beneficiary could not credibly answer any question in regards to the petitioners life style and general preference.

The petitioner married to beneficiary after 10 months of his divorce to his second wife and they live for 4 year and still dont have any child why?

The beneficiary stated that their marriage has not been consummated.

Yes this is the main issue that i at that time didnt realize that saying this that i didn't know and even dont want to know make them feel that our relation is not bona fide

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I think there is a miscommunication here between what the OP is trying to say with english being a second language and probably how she responded at the interview in her native language. She also seems to be unaware that the CO was asking if she was intimate with her husband in which she has later stated she was but misunderstood the question being asked.

There is no reason to think the OP was flippant or was anything but serious during her interview just that she was unaware she should go into greater detail. To me she is obviously she is a private person who was nervous and not inclined to go into detail at the interview and has since realized her mistake and is looking for help to correct that.

Actually in many countries where there is a large age difference there is a red flag. Please don't generalize, this is something that is country specific.

True i agree with you that there is miscommunication and yes as i told in one post that there is misunderstanding and i was extra conscious and seriously nervous.And i agree with you 100%.

if your marriage was not consummated before you filed for the I-130, then you are not eligible for a visa; and you stated in your above post that the marriage was not consummated at the time of the interview.

So when we filed I-130 then why at that time they didn't ask any thing like that and they even didn't take an interview of my husband before my interview.

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It is common in Islamic Countries for the male to be older than the female by 10 or more years. As to the rest of it I have no idea how someone is married for four years and never has sex. My problem was I am almost 10 years older than my spouse and this is a big no-no in his country. Second was I already had three children and he had none. We made it through it.

This case has big red flags all over it. Two prior marriages and immigration for both, her not knowing a lot about her spouses history, a four year marriage and she didn't seem to know much about him. All I can say is good luck.

Dont they know what we do in islamic countries.hey by written they mean not me and my hubby by this mean my hubby and his ex 2nd wife plz clear this point now.And i didn't know that i have to tell them and tell me one thing that he is not only married twice i also married twice and have no kids from my previous marriage and tell me that some people dont have kids for life time is it a crime and some people were unlucky in there married life like you can say in our case both of us were unlucky that we both married twice and get divorce and we both dont have kids .I hope you understand now the point .I think now that only problem is that they have problem that he bring his both ex wives in the same category and we dont have sex at the time of interview .

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.I think now that only problem is that they have problem that he bring his both ex wives in the same category and we dont have sex at the time of interview .

In addition to this, the fact that you seem to know little about him after 4 years of marriage, and there have only been two (?) visits in 4 years of marriage is also a big issue.

I agree the age difference isn't a major thing now you mention that it is not in fact double, and you are both mature.

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In addition to this, the fact that you seem to know little about him after 4 years of marriage, and there have only been two (?) visits in 4 years of marriage is also a big issue.

I agree the age difference isn't a major thing now you mention that it is not in fact double, and you are both mature.

Penguin -ie i again reply that this 4 year marriage is not mine its his previous marriage fro 4 years and our marriage is only 2 years old his previous marriage was 4 year old and during our 2 year marriage he visited 2 time and each of his visit was on 2 months of stay .I hope now correct your missunderstanding.:)

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INFORMATION TIME REFERENCE:

OP was married: 2011-02-23

Interview date: 2012-06-23

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They have received a NOIR with these specific questions which the OP must answer within the next 30 days:

  • The petitioner is 12 years old then beneficiary, why?
  • The petitioner and beneficiary were married twice before
  • The petitioner were married twice before to foreign nationals whom he petition for immigrant to us both time under spousal category.
  • The beneficiary could not credibly answer any question in regards to the petitioners life style and general preference.
  • The petitioner married to beneficiary after 10 months of his divorce to his second wife and they live for 4 year and still don't have any child, why?
  • The beneficiary stated that their marriage has not been consummated.

You need to go over each question and state the answers for each in as much detail as possible.

Submit as much relationship evidence as possible including personal statements - possibly sworn oaths (not just affidavits but a sworn oath) from both husband and wife as to the genuine relationship they share.

If the age difference (which should NOT be an issue IMHO but apparently is) is common for your religion or region show evidence of such including affidavits of family and friends who also have an age difference as large or larger.

The petitioner must show why he was married twice before and why it didn't work out with his previous wives and also why he also chose to have foreign wives. Affidavits from the ex wives would probably help as well stating they had a genuine relationship that just didn't work out. An affidavit or sworn statement from the ex wife of 4 years with whom he didn't have any children looks necessary. I'm not sure why they want to know why the CO cares about why he doesn't have children with his ex wife except for maybe they feel he was trying to find a wife in which to have children or maybe they thought you were pregnant due to adultery on his part. Which makes the last question look stupid!

Did you consummate your marriage at the time of filing? Did you consumate by the time of the interview? Have you since consummate your marriage? If this is a necessary part of your religious marriage then this a serious issue and you will need to address why you hadn't completed your marriage rites at the time of filing and interview.


If anyone else has any advice as to how the couple can introduce information to combat the NOIR it would be beneficial. I've done the best I can with what ideas I have.

You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes. You can steer yourself any direction you choose.  - Dr. Seuss

 

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They have received a NOIR with these specific questions which the OP must answer within the next 30 days:

  • The petitioner is 12 years old then beneficiary, why?
  • The petitioner and beneficiary were married twice before
  • The petitioner were married twice before to foreign nationals whom he petition for immigrant to us both time under spousal category.
  • The beneficiary could not credibly answer any question in regards to the petitioners life style and general preference.
  • The petitioner married to beneficiary after 10 months of his divorce to his second wife and they live for 4 year and still don't have any child, why?
  • The beneficiary stated that their marriage has not been consummated.

You need to go over each question and state the answers for each in as much detail as possible.

Submit as much relationship evidence as possible including personal statements - possibly sworn oaths (not just affidavits but a sworn oath) from both husband and wife as to the genuine relationship they share.

If the age difference (which should NOT be an issue IMHO but apparently is) is common for your religion or region show evidence of such including affidavits of family and friends who also have an age difference as large or larger.

The petitioner must show why he was married twice before and why it didn't work out with his previous wives and also why he also chose to have foreign wives. Affidavits from the ex wives would probably help as well stating they had a genuine relationship that just didn't work out. An affidavit or sworn statement from the ex wife of 4 years with whom he didn't have any children looks necessary. I'm not sure why they want to know why the CO cares about why he doesn't have children with his ex wife except for maybe they feel he was trying to find a wife in which to have children or maybe they thought you were pregnant due to adultery on his part. Which makes the last question look stupid!

Did you consummate your marriage at the time of filing? Did you consumate by the time of the interview? Have you since consummate your marriage? If this is a necessary part of your religious marriage then this a serious issue and you will need to address why you hadn't completed your marriage rites at the time of filing and interview.

If anyone else has any advice as to how the couple can introduce information to combat the NOIR it would be beneficial. I've done the best I can with what ideas I have.

How do i show sworn oath ,yes this is common in our religion i can show the affidavits of friends and family members as well.Yes he can send both of his marriage certificate and he can submit evidence why both time his marriage didn't work out.He belongs to this country and in this country most of the men were prefer to marry the women from the same country even to same city and same cast in some cases as well.

Only his 2nd wife is in touch none of his family know where his 1st wife is now.Having children or no children is matter of luck in my religion its in the hand of GOD.

Yes it was consummate at the time when we file this petition.I think soon after the marriage not by the time of interview.i told you yes .See in my religion signing on marriage contract from both of side is very important and the presence of both bride and groom is also very important .after relation the marriage consummation is not very important it can be done after a year 4 year or in some cases even 6 year.Yes i can address this in detail.

And let me clear that we never done adultery before our marriage it is sin in my religion .

Thanks a lot for your this much help.

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I never said you did those things or didn't do them. The point is to try to figure out WHY they're asking you these questions and then answer them.

A sworn oath you'd probably have to contact a lawyer or judge.

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They think your relationship is for immigration purposes/ is fraud. This is a very serious issue. You have several red flags- the age is one, but you being his third wife is a huge one, it looks like he is bringing women over for greencards. You will need to prove not only that you are in a genuine relationship, but also that the previous two marriages he had were genuine and that he just has incredibly bad luck in women so far. It is also considered odd that you do not know anything about his previous marriages- spouses genera;ly know about eachother's past.

It would be better if your husband came on here and gave information, because some of your writing is difficult to understand... for example, is it correct that all your marriages lasted only 3 months? What does "I dont think that in US law a man has to married so not in pakistan" mean?

Correct. One of the most serious red flags that points to other than a genuine marriage relationship is the applicants statement indicating the marriage has not been consumated.

To be of reliable assistance, we need the exact and complete text of the document received after the interview. I think you should seek professional assistance.

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I never said you did those things or didn't do them. The point is to try to figure out WHY they're asking you these questions and then answer them.

A sworn oath you'd probably have to contact a lawyer or judge.

Some one told me that during the days of my interview there as serious political issue between this country gov and us gov so in this lot of people got the same bluesheet objection sheet as i got and when this problem solved they almost stop giving this .And thank you for helping me so much.

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