George Zimmerman trial: Lawyers finish jury selection questioning

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

True, but the nature of this case is race. That's what I was trying to get at. This has been a racially charged case since day one. In your case two black people were involved and there was no racial bias to the crime. There have been several folks, important or not, that have weighed in on this and race has been the primary factor.

Look at the cop who lost his job because he wanted to use TM targets for shooting practices: http://rt.com/usa/trayvon-martin-target-practice-833/

Look at the cop who lost his job because he tweeted about TM: http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/03/27/10886960-officer-suspended-for-saying-act-like-a-thug-die-like-one-in-martin-case?lite

Nature Boy said white folks can be impartial, this might be true. But let me ask you something. Adam Lanza shot 27 people in cold blood, 20 of those were kids, but did you hear about Adam shooting targets? He was more of a threat than a 17 year kid walking home from the store. Christopher Dorner went on a killing spree, and didn't kill half as many people that Adam Lanza, but that didn't stop them from making a racist video game about him: can't post the video, too much racial slurs.

You can't even have a rational discussion about this killing IRL or on here because the folks that believe GZ was in the right are the same folks that carry guns, the same folks that say they would blow someone away if they even looked at them wrong or thought they were slighted in the least, yet have completely normalized his behavior to say that TM overreacted to the situation. The last guy I argued this with IRL was a white contractor. Another white contractor and I was talking about it within earshot of this guy, I knew from his body language(fidgety, nervous,) that he didn't agree with what were were saying, the guy I was talking to felt like GZ was the problem. I remember he turned around and said, "well you know, TM wasn't no angel." Before I could say anything, the guy I was talking to said"what does that have to do with it?" And just let him have it. I was stunned, the guy just left after that. He didn't come back and work on our building again. I remember Jim(the guy I was talking to) said, you can always tell when it's about race, he knew just like I did the guy was looking at his skin color, not his actions.

It is true that Zimmermann targeted Martin because of Martin's race - for no other reason. Had Martin not been black, Zimmermann would not have bothered, chased and accosted him. None of this would have happened but for the fact that Martin was black. I am not black and I can see that clearly. So what's the issue with me sitting on that jury rather than you sitting there?

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

It is true that Zimmermann targeted Martin because of Martin's race - for no other reason. Had Martin not been black, Zimmermann would not have bothered, chased and accosted him. None of this would have happened but for the fact that Martin was black. I am not black and I can see that clearly. So what's the issue with me sitting on that jury rather than you sitting there?

I don't have a problem with white people on the jury, I said it's a shame that not one AA was on there.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

I don't have a problem with white people on the jury, I said it's a shame that not one AA was on there.

It is what it is. No use harping on about it. I am confident that the selected jurors will do the best job they can to come to a just verdict based on the merits of the case.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

So, by your comprehension, by asking to have one black person on a jury, when a black child was killed is being prejudiced. Your second part is correct though. How many times have blacks been killed or beaten and the culprits have gotten off? Medger Evans, Sean Bell, and quite a few others.

And you keep missing my point, if a white child was killed, would they have 5 blacks and an asian on the panel? Fair is fair right?

Your last part is true, and what my point of my last post.

No if TM had been white we would never had heard of him.

I haven no idea what the jury would have looked like and you do not either.

For most any crime I could commit, that did not involve an offense against a black person, I would be fine with a black jury.

Edited June 22, 2013 by The Nature Boy

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Hispanic is not a race,

You are correct and you have to keep reminding us.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

This trial is becoming even more of a joke. How many black vs. white jurors now. I see Al and Jesse are getting their way. This trial has nothing to do with crime at this point. It is all about race now. Hopefully GZ gets found guilty and they give him the chair, so I don't have to hear about all this racial B.S. for awhile. I'm sure something else will follow on it's heels though. Probably something about the term "black coffee" being racist. It'll never stop.

You got that right. I think the average white Americana or at least the ones I know, try really hard to not let race discrimination be part of their life, but are growing tired of watching the black community imploding on itself and every time someone breathes they holler racism.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Crump turned this into a 3 ring circus . Every black person who was summoned was poisoned by the pretrial publicity.There is not a camera crump did not like. In doing so the jury pool of blacks questioned for this trial were weeded out as the had made their minds up prior to being interviewed. .

Trayvon Martin shooting: All-woman jury selected for George Zimmerman trial Five of the women are white. The other is said to be half-black and half-Hispanic.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/all-woman-jury-selected-trayvon-martin-slay-trial-article-1.1378193#ixzz2Ws4BJGhX

I guess a black did make it.....Perhaps she is not "black enough"

Seminole County is 78% white, 11% black, and 17% Hispanic

Zimmerman jury is 83% white and and 17% black/Hispanic

Ever seen my favorite movie " A time to kill" remember the poverty pimp NAACP lawyers that came to town and Carl Lee was smart enough to figure out the really wanted a Martyr. Great Movie that I think captured truth's about a lot of different groups.

[Karee 4,191]

Trying, they already have. He was targeted because he was black. That's the reason logic has gone out of the window. Folks say run away from strangers, but that doesn't apply to TM. SYG says you have a right to fight if you want, but no one thinks TM was in any danger at all. If TM was white, GZ wouldn't have even given him a second look.

How do you know he was targeted because he was black?

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

How do you know he was targeted because he was black?

Other than the witness testimony that Zimmerman is a bigot, and the non-emergency call to the police dispatcher?

[Darnell 8,479]

I think it's fabulous that the jury panel are/is all female.

Let the womens decide his fate, on this one, you betcha.

as for the half black, half hispanic female juror on the panel - cool ! That'll help George, as his Mom claims afro-peruvian background. so that's a big plus for George !

Edited June 22, 2013 by Darnell

[Karee 4,191]

Other than the witness testimony that Zimmerman is a bigot, and the non-emergency call to the police dispatcher?

Witness testimony that he's a bigot? What does that mean?

What non-emergency call? The one he made the night of the shooting?

[Darnell 8,479]

I don't have a problem with white people on the jury, I said it's a shame that not one AA was on there.

Well, there's half a one. Just like there's half a one in the Oval Office.

Different Gender, sure, but if all AA got behind the half a one in the Oval Office? Why can't all AA get behind the half a one in the jury panel?

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Witness testimony that he's a bigot? What does that mean?

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/07/16/12768889-witness-zimmerman-did-not-like-black-people?lite&__utma=14933801.119136870.1342486482.1342486482.1342486482.1&__utmb=14933801.1.10.1342486482&__utmc=14933801&__utmx=-&__utmz=14933801.1342486482.1.1.utmcsr=%28direct%29|utmccn=%28direct%29|utmcmd=%28none%29&__utmv=14933801.|8=Earned%20By=msnbc|cover=1^12=Landing%20Content=Mixed=1^13=Landing%20Hostname=www.nbcnews.com=1^30=Visit%20Type%20to%20Content=Earned%20to%20Mixed=1&__utmk=87735960

http://www.islamophobiatoday.com/2012/05/19/audio-witness-says-george-zimmerman-repeatedly-bullied-him-at-work-targeted-him-with-racist-jokes/

What non-emergency call? The one he made the night of the shooting?

Yes.

[Karee 4,191]

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/07/16/12768889-witness-zimmerman-did-not-like-black-people?lite&__utma=14933801.119136870.1342486482.1342486482.1342486482.1&__utmb=14933801.1.10.1342486482&__utmc=14933801&__utmx=-&__utmz=14933801.1342486482.1.1.utmcsr=%28direct%29|utmccn=%28direct%29|utmcmd=%28none%29&__utmv=14933801.|8=Earned%20By=msnbc|cover=1^12=Landing%20Content=Mixed=1^13=Landing%20Hostname=www.nbcnews.com=1^30=Visit%20Type%20to%20Content=Earned%20to%20Mixed=1&__utmk=87735960

http://www.islamophobiatoday.com/2012/05/19/audio-witness-says-george-zimmerman-repeatedly-bullied-him-at-work-targeted-him-with-racist-jokes/

Yes.

You mean when the 911 dispatcher asks for a description, and he says black?

[Darnell 8,479]

How do you know he was targeted because he was black?

That's a great question ! I'd love to be a fly on the wall during the 'neighborhood watch' training sessions that GZ attended, you betcha.