I need to use a co-sponsor,do the same rules apply as the I-864

[GarynMarie 0]

Hi everyone. Everything I read about the I-864 says that the person petitioning must be the primary sponsor and that if you dont meet the guidelines you must also have a co-sponsor fill out a I-864 and thats fine!. But when it comes to the I-134 there is no mention of using a co-sponsor in any of the information i have read. I even read on one of the posts that for a K-Visa if the person that petitioned for the Visa doesnt meet the guideline than that person doesnt need to fill out a I-134 affidavit of support. Only someone that meets the guideline needs to fill out the I-134 affidavit of support. I read this from a post that one of the big dogs on here wrote- I dont want to mention names in case I misunderstood what i read but it seemed clear to me what was said. This is the deal- I need to have my Brother be a co-sponsor for me because of a lay off I had. He makes 4 times the poverty guideline but do i still need to send Marie a I-134 with me as the sponsor that she takes to the interview with her or Does she only need a I-134 from my Brother, or do I send her one from both of us just like I would for the I-864

[YuAndDan 153]

In the case of the I-134 this is being used for the Non-Immigrant K-3 visa it shows that they will not become a charge of the state between the time they enter the country and adjust status. Only one I-134 form is needed from someone able to meet the Charge of State requirement, If you are using your brother he can be the solo sponsor and provide for I-134 the K-3 visa interview, but it wont hurt if you both submit an I-134 for the visa interview and let the consular officer choose which Affidavit of support to use, one or both.

This is not the case for I-864, this has to do with support of an immigrant, and the petitioner MUST be the primary sponsor and MUST file I-864, the petitioner can get a co-sponsor to meet the support requirement.

[GarynMarie 0]

In the case of the I-134 this is being used for the Non-Immigrant K-3 visa it shows that they will not become a charge of the state between the time they enter the country and adjust status. Only one I-134 form is needed from someone able to meet the Charge of State requirement, If you are using your brother he can be the solo sponsor and provide for I-134 the K-3 visa interview, but it wont hurt if you both submit an I-134 for the visa interview and let the consular officer choose which Affidavit of support to use, one or both.

This is not the case for I-864, this has to do with support of an immigrant, and the petitioner MUST be the primary sponsor and MUST file I-864, the petitioner can get a co-sponsor to meet the support requirement.

Once Again YuAndDan- A Big Thanks- I just cant thank you enough for all the help you have given me-So on question # 11 of the I-134 how would my Brother go about answering this. Should he write something like- I intend on giving Marie any support "if needed" for as long as she remains a resident in the United States- is that okay ? If not what would be the correct way to answer this. I seen in the example form that the sponsor writes N/A in that section, but would this be the case because he is not married to the benificiary.

[Alex+R 0]

In the case of the I-134 this is being used for the Non-Immigrant K-3 visa it shows that they will not become a charge of the state between the time they enter the country and adjust status. Only one I-134 form is needed from someone able to meet the Charge of State requirement, If you are using your brother he can be the solo sponsor and provide for I-134 the K-3 visa interview, but it wont hurt if you both submit an I-134 for the visa interview and let the consular officer choose which Affidavit of support to use, one or both.

This is not the case for I-864, this has to do with support of an immigrant, and the petitioner MUST be the primary sponsor and MUST file I-864, the petitioner can get a co-sponsor to meet the support requirement.

Once Again YuAndDan- A Big Thanks- I just cant thank you enough for all the help you have given me-So on question # 11 of the I-134 how would my Brother go about answering this. Should he write something like- I intend on giving Marie any support "if needed" for as long as she remains a resident in the United States- is that okay ? If not what would be the correct way to answer this. I seen in the example form that the sponsor writes N/A in that section, but would this be the case because he is not married to the benificiary.

When Dan said "it won't hurt" to submit your own I-134, he meant that you should check with the consulate you're using to make sure it's optional. In Rio, for example, it certainly isn't optional for the future I-864 sponsor (future spouse) to submit an I-134 along with the actual sponsor (future joint sponsor), although technically they shouldn't be allowed to require it. If that wasn't confusing enough...

We wrote what was in the example form for both I-134s. That question was applicable for other visa types but is not really applicable to the K1 situation. Various answers have worked, if I remember.

[GarynMarie 0]

In the case of the I-134 this is being used for the Non-Immigrant K-3 visa it shows that they will not become a charge of the state between the time they enter the country and adjust status. Only one I-134 form is needed from someone able to meet the Charge of State requirement, If you are using your brother he can be the solo sponsor and provide for I-134 the K-3 visa interview, but it wont hurt if you both submit an I-134 for the visa interview and let the consular officer choose which Affidavit of support to use, one or both.

This is not the case for I-864, this has to do with support of an immigrant, and the petitioner MUST be the primary sponsor and MUST file I-864, the petitioner can get a co-sponsor to meet the support requirement.

Once Again YuAndDan- A Big Thanks- I just cant thank you enough for all the help you have given me-So on question # 11 of the I-134 how would my Brother go about answering this. Should he write something like- I intend on giving Marie any support "if needed" for as long as she remains a resident in the United States- is that okay ? If not what would be the correct way to answer this. I seen in the example form that the sponsor writes N/A in that section, but would this be the case because he is not married to the benificiary.

When Dan said "it won't hurt" to submit your own I-134, he meant that you should check with the consulate you're using to make sure it's optional. In Rio, for example, it certainly isn't optional for the future I-864 sponsor (future spouse) to submit an I-134 along with the actual sponsor (future joint sponsor), although technically they shouldn't be allowed to require it. If that wasn't confusing enough...

We wrote what was in the example form for both I-134s. That question was applicable for other visa types but is not really applicable to the K1 situation. Various answers have worked, if I remember.

I think what Dan meant was it wont hurt for my wife to bring a I-134 from both my Brother and myself because the officer might want it just to satisfy his curiousity about my income also. I dont think the officer will hold it against my wife if she has a I-134 from her husband as well. If he doesnt want it then he just simply wont ask for it. But if he does I think it would be better for her to have it along with her. As for the #11 question- We are allready married and applying for a K-3 Visa-so would N/A also be applicable for a K-3 also, the example form was for a K-1 , and in reality the sponsor(my brother) isnt petitioning for any type of Visa- He is only a sponsor-nothing else. So would N/A be applicable for him also.

[paulw 0]

I encourage you to check with the consulate. I used a cosponsor in Kiev and was also required to submit the I-134 myself.

Best of luck to you.

Paul

[GarynMarie 0]

I encourage you to check with the consulate. I used a cosponsor in Kiev and was also required to submit the I-134 myself.

Best of luck to you.

Paul

Thanks Paul, I will do that, either way I think I am going to have Marie take a I-134 with her from both myself and my co-sponsor, Like YuAndDan said- "It Wont Hurt"

[Yodrak 7]

GarynMarie,

In situations where the petitioner does not qualify to sponsor their fiance(e) or spouse for a K visa I generally suggest that the visa applicant be prepared with the petitioner's financial package but withhold it unless it is specifically asked for (in hopes that more people will post the result so we can get more anecdotal evidence on the issue). In your case, the consular section in Manilla has a reputation among VJers for strongly preferring that the petitioner be the sponsor - so strong that many people post in absolute terms 'Manilla does not accept cosponsors'. Based on what I've seen many VJers dealing with Manilla write, I would be surprised if the consular officer does not expect to see your information first and then an alternate sponsor's information only if your's is considered to be inadequate.

For Q11 I suggest checking the 'Yes' box and writing something like, 'Will cover food, housing, clothing, and other living expenses as may be necessary.'

Yodrak

I think what Dan meant was it wont hurt for my wife to bring a I-134 from both my Brother and myself because the officer might want it just to satisfy his curiousity about my income also. I dont think the officer will hold it against my wife if she has a I-134 from her husband as well. If he doesnt want it then he just simply wont ask for it. But if he does I think it would be better for her to have it along with her. As for the #11 question- We are allready married and applying for a K-3 Visa-so would N/A also be applicable for a K-3 also, the example form was for a K-1 , and in reality the sponsor(my brother) isnt petitioning for any type of Visa- He is only a sponsor-nothing else. So would N/A be applicable for him also.

Edited November 27, 2006 by Yodrak

[GarynMarie 0]

GarynMarie,

In situations where the petitioner does not qualify to sponsor their fiance(e) or spouse for a K visa I generally suggest that the visa applicant be prepared with the petitioner's financial package but withhold it unless it is specifically asked for (in hopes that more people will post the result so we can get more anecdotal evidence on the issue). In your case, the consular section in Manilla has a reputation among VJers for strongly preferring that the petitioner be the sponsor - so strong that many people post in absolute terms 'Manilla does not accept cosponsors'. Based on what I've seen many VJers dealing with Manilla write, I would be surprised if the consular officer does not expect to see your information first and then an alternate sponsor's information only if your's is considered to be inadequate.

For Q11 I suggest checking the 'Yes' box and writing something like, 'Will cover food, housing, clothing, and other living expenses as may be necessary.'

Yodrak

I think what Dan meant was it wont hurt for my wife to bring a I-134 from both my Brother and myself because the officer might want it just to satisfy his curiousity about my income also. I dont think the officer will hold it against my wife if she has a I-134 from her husband as well. If he doesnt want it then he just simply wont ask for it. But if he does I think it would be better for her to have it along with her. As for the #11 question- We are allready married and applying for a K-3 Visa-so would N/A also be applicable for a K-3 also, the example form was for a K-1 , and in reality the sponsor(my brother) isnt petitioning for any type of Visa- He is only a sponsor-nothing else. So would N/A be applicable for him also.

Thanks Yodrak-

As for the #11 question-are you suggesting that my Brother(co-sponsor) should write that on his I-134 or should I also write that on my I-134?

Thanks Again -Gary