Is the Cross a pagan symbol that crept into the Christian Religion?

[GandD 5,966]

reminds me of the bill hicks bit..where he talks about how mortified jesus will be if he comes back and sees half the world wearing symbols of his suffering and death around their necks. haha.

+1 for you and anyone else that references Bill Hicks.

[GandD 5,966]

Correct. This is the central event in a Catholic mass. Combined with the doctrine of transubstantiation, Catholics believe they are actually consuming the corporeal essence of the Savior.

So my family is traditional Catholic and we were discussing transubstantiation. FTR, I'm an atheist at this point but my parents are still practicing Catholics. My dad mentioned he didn't really believe in the direct concept of transubstantiation. To which I replied, then you're not Catholic.

[Darnell 8,478]

to heck with opinions here at VJ - go ask yer priest what to do !

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Catholics are supposed to follow the guidance from their priest.

That's it, that's all - anything else written in this topic? Congratulations - you've been 'pulled in' by a troll, way back at post #1

[GandD 5,966]

to heck with opinions here at VJ - go ask yer priest what to do !

[in response to the question back at post #1]

Catholics are supposed to follow the guidance from their priest.

That's it, that's all - anything else written in this topic? Congratulations - you've been 'pulled in' by a troll, way back at post #1

You're right.

[Darnell 8,478]

I know !

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

to heck with opinions here at VJ - go ask yer priest what to do !

[in response to the question back at post #1]

Catholics are supposed to follow the guidance from their priest.

That's it, that's all - anything else written in this topic? Congratulations - you've been 'pulled in' by a troll, way back at post #1

Who cares? Some of Stephen's loony threads turn into the longest. At least Smiley doesn't ask to close the thread if the discussion doesn't stay on track.

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Yes burn your cross, preferably on someones lawn.

That might just work here in NJ since the KKK isn't active - I think. The thing is I don't own crosses anymore.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

That might just work here in NJ since the KKK isn't active - I think. The thing is I don't own crosses anymore.

Burned them all?

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Burned them all?

That would have been an exciting way to get rid of them~ but I just tossed them.in the garbage

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

I just tossed them.in the garbage

OMG! Hasn't Jesus suffered enough?

I wonder if "Mrs. Carrot" knows. Most Filipinos would be reluctant to tempt fate like that.

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OMG! Hasn't Jesus suffered enough?

I wonder if "Mrs. Carrot" knows. Most Filipinos would be reluctant to tempt fate like that.

That was before I met her. Some of her family are devoted Catholics but she is not like that

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

That was before I met her. Some of her family are devoted Catholics but she is not like that

Didn't you tell her? That could have been a deal breaker.

[X Factor 1,112]

Didn't you tell her? That could have been a deal breaker.

She knows and it wasn't a deal breaker

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As a side note, I do find it kind of strange that you have to go to the bottom of the 2nd page to find the first thread about religion in a section called "Politics and Religion".

[GandD 5,966]

As a side note, I do find it kind of strange that you have to go to the bottom of the 2nd page to find the first thread about religion in a section called "Politics and Religion".

It's getting changed to "Guns and Zimmerman" during the next upgrade.