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Gitmo stat sheet:

http://www.humanrightsfirst.org/wp-content/uploads/pdf/USLS-Fact-Sheet-Gitmo-Numbers.pdf

Bad idea for Obama to campaign on something and not deliver. No doubt a first for a politician. The question should be, if Obama could make an executive order closing Gitmos, who here would support it? Well conservatives?? Why not?

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Chicks almost always have awesome handwriting.....

Gitmo stat sheet:

http://www.humanrightsfirst.org/wp-content/uploads/pdf/USLS-Fact-Sheet-Gitmo-Numbers.pdf

Bad idea for Obama to campaign on something and not deliver. No doubt a first for a politician. The question should be, if Obama could make an executive order closing Gitmos, who here would support it? Well conservatives?? Why not?

I can't think of a reason to keep it open. I guess the only reason it's there is so they can hold people without charging them with a crime. Kinda makes us the same as the Israelis if you ask me. Not a good thing.

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Gitmo stat sheet:

http://www.humanrightsfirst.org/wp-content/uploads/pdf/USLS-Fact-Sheet-Gitmo-Numbers.pdf

Bad idea for Obama to campaign on something and not deliver. No doubt a first for a politician. The question should be, if Obama could make an executive order closing Gitmos, who here would support it? Well conservatives?? Why not?

Not at all unless I missed the privatization of Social Security. I remember a recent President campaigning on that issue twice.

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I can't think of a reason to keep it open. I guess the only reason it's there is so they can hold people without charging them with a crime. Kinda makes us the same as the Israelis if you ask me. Not a good thing.

Agreed. Thing is that you'd have a harder time keeping folks locked up indefinitely on US soil without charges. And nobody wants these detainees - most of them are cleared for release with nowhere to go. So what do you do with them? Release them into the US? That would be political suicide. You can't release them into the Atlantic either. So what do you do with them?

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Agreed. Thing is that you'd have a harder time keeping folks locked up indefinitely on US soil without charges. And nobody wants these detainees - most of them are cleared for release with nowhere to go. So what do you do with them? Release them into the US? That would be political suicide. You can't release them into the Atlantic either. So what do you do with them?

They must be citizens of some country. If not, just let them wander around JFK like Tom Hanks.

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They must be citizens of some country. If not, just let them wander around JFK like Tom Hanks.

Yes, Yemen, for example. More than 50 of the 80+ cleared for release detainees are Yemeni. But there are concerns that these detainees might consider joining AQAP once in Yemen and take up the cause against the US. Can't quite figure out why they possibly would want to do that after having enjoyed US hospitality for a decade for so or apparently no reason at all.

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Well if you can assume that people who like Obama think that people who DON'T like Obama are racist... surely people can assume things about you, right? I mean, it's only fair...

Silly me,, no one has ever accused people that don't like Obama of being racist.. What was I thinking

Agreed. Thing is that you'd have a harder time keeping folks locked up indefinitely on US soil without charges. And nobody wants these detainees - most of them are cleared for release with nowhere to go. So what do you do with them? Release them into the US? That would be political suicide. You can't release them into the Atlantic either. So what do you do with them?

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Ok it was not directed at you per say but you are a member of the club

As for your statement that we were silent as a woman fart during the Bush Presidency ?/ Did you know me then ..?? Did you know any of us then ? The answer is no, so once again your making shat up .

First of all, I wasn't talking about you. I was making my statement towards the various news outlets and websites that are reporting about these things now, but when then were happening under GWB, they either kept quiet or supported it then.

I don't think all critisim leveled towards Obama is racism, just the ones that call him a tar baby, boy, lazy, food stamp, shuck and jive, doesn't know how to be American. And your perception that becasue I'm black I have this love affair with him is off as well. I liked Clinton, I liked Reagan, I liked GWB Senior.

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Silly me,, no one has ever accused people that don't like Obama of being racist.. What was I thinking

Who here has told you that you're racist for not liking Obama?

I'm sure it happens in the "real world" plenty. But on these boards? For as often as you mention it, you'd swear it's a daily occurrence.

My point is, don't make false assumptions about people if you don't want them making some about you.

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First of all, I wasn't talking about you. I was making my statement towards the various news outlets and websites that are reporting about these things now, but when then were happening under GWB, they either kept quiet or supported it then.

I don't think all critisim leveled towards Obama is racism, just the ones that call him a tar baby, boy, lazy, food stamp, shuck and jive, doesn't know how to be American. And your perception that becasue I'm black I have this love affair with him is off as well. I liked Clinton, I liked Reagan, I liked GWB Senior.

What... You liked Reagan my bad we are cool

Who here has told you that you're racist for not liking Obama?

I'm sure it happens in the "real world" plenty. But on these boards? For as often as you mention it, you'd swear it's a daily occurrence.

My point is, don't make false assumptions about people if you don't want them making some about you.

There have been plenty of times someone has implied or said we don't like Obama or implied people that don't like Obama are Racists. Surely you jest. If it was a big enough deal in my life I would spend the time to hunt down an example or two.

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There have been plenty of times someone has implied or said we don't like Obama or implied people that don't like Obama are Racists. Surely you jest. If it was a big enough deal in my life I would spend the time to hunt down an example or two.

It's clearly a big deal considering you say it so often.

Hunting down examples shouldn't be difficult if it happens all the time. But whatever.

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Ahh. You. Women. Whenever you are pissy you always say. ". You do it all the time ". All my wife's have done that

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