NVC HAS MY NUMBER! IN PROCESS TO CDJ! K-1

[Lety and Ed 2]

Good News!!!! Made the call to the NVC and they were able to give me all of my numbers.

The nice woman that I spoke to was very pleasant and even had a very good sense of humor.

She answered all of my questions and gave me the following information....

NVC Case #

Invoice #

Beneficiary ID# (for my fiancee)

Beneficiary ID# (for fiancee's minor child)

She also mentioned that everything should be forwarded to the consulate in Ciudad Juarez in approximately 1 week.

We were bumming a bit when I called two days ago and they said they hadn't received our documents at the NVC yet. Now we are very happy to get this news! Whooo Hooo!

[Cari&Chuy 0]

Well, they are incorrect. The I-864A is not used with an I-134. They are mixing up two different affidavit of support forms.

I would wait until the case has been received by CDJ, then as long as you have your CDJ case #, invoice # and beneficiary ID # from the NVC, you can fill out the DS-260 and start scheduling things.

its because i have a joint sponsor

[KayDeeCee 4,893]

its because i have a joint sponsor

For the I-134 it is a co-sponsor. A co-sponsor fills out their own separate I-134, not an I-864A. A joint sponsor for the I-864 does not even fill out an I-864A. The I-864A is used for a qualifying household member of a sponsor/joint sponsor that is filling out an I-864. They are giving you unnecessary misinformation.

You fill out your I-134 and provide your supporting documentation> most recent tax transcript, letter from employer and most recent pay stub(s).

Your co-sponsor fills out their own I-134 and provides their supporting doumentation> most recent tax transcript, letter from employer and most recent pay stub(s), plus proof they are a USC or LPR. The co-sponsor needs to have enough income for their own household size plus the beneficiary.

[Conor<3Maresa 0]

FIANCE VISA

HELLO I CALLED TODAY TO THE NVC AND TOLD ME THAT MY PETITION IS IN PROCESS AND GAVE ME MY NUMBER ((: IM REALLY HAPPY I WAS JUST WONDERING IF I CAN SCHEDULE HIM THE APPOINTMENT BECAUSE I NOE TO SCHEDULE AN APPOINTMENT FOR THE INTERVIEW TAKES PRETTY LONG , FOR CUIDAD JUAREZ I NOE THE PACKET IS ONLINE SO WE HAVE EVERYTHING COLLECTED

http://photos.state.gov/libraries/ciudadjuarez/231771/PDFs/packetk1may.pdf

IS IT FINE IF I START THAT OR I HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE PACKET FROM CUIDAD JUAREZ AND THE NVC FOR ME? PLEASE HELP ME

FEB 04 USCIS RECIEVED PETITION

FEB 06 NOA1 PETITION WAS ACCEPTED

WAITING TIME BEGINNINGS

MAY 30 NOA2 (:

JUN 12 NVC GAVE ME MY NUMBER FOR CUIDAD JUAREZ

We got our NOA2 on June 10th, when should we start calling for our numbers? thanks!!

[Lety and Ed 2]

We got our NOA2 on June 10th, when should we start calling for our numbers? thanks!!

It took about two weeks for our documents to reach the NVC following the NOA2.

[Conor<3Maresa 0]

It took about two weeks for our documents to reach the NVC following the NOA2.

What if I received the hard copy today? It says my petition was forwarded to the consulate already? Does that mean it was sent to NVC already?

[KayDeeCee 4,893]

What if I received the hard copy today? It says my petition was forwarded to the consulate already? Does that mean it was sent to NVC already?

Call the NVC and get your case #, invoice # and beneficiary ID # so you can get started filling out the DS-260 and making your appointments.

[Conor<3Maresa 0]

Call the NVC and get your case #, invoice # and beneficiary ID # so you can get started filling out the DS-260 and making your appointments.

If we received the hard copy for the NOA2 yesterday should it be at the NVC already?

[Cari&Chuy 0]

For the I-134 it is a co-sponsor. A co-sponsor fills out their own separate I-134, not an I-864A. A joint sponsor for the I-864 does not even fill out an I-864A. The I-864A is used for a qualifying household member of a sponsor/joint sponsor that is filling out an I-864. They are giving you unnecessary misinformation.

You fill out your I-134 and provide your supporting documentation> most recent tax transcript, letter from employer and most recent pay stub(s).

Your co-sponsor fills out their own I-134 and provides their supporting doumentation> most recent tax transcript, letter from employer and most recent pay stub(s), plus proof they are a USC or LPR. The co-sponsor needs to have enough income for their own household size plus the beneficiary.

hey look ive been researching i found this at the cdj website

• THE PERSON WHO FILED THE PETITION ON MY BEHALF IS NOT WORKING. DOES HE OR SHE STILL NEED TO SUBMIT AN AFFIDAVIT OF SUPPORT?
  • Yes. If you are subject to the I-864 (Affidavit of Support) requirement, as almost all immigrant visa applicants in Mexico are, the petitioner must submit an I-864 for you. Otherwise, the consular officer will not be able to issue you a visa. This requirement applies even if the petitioner is not working or is working but does not earn enough money to support you. In these circumstances, your petitioner may find a joint sponsor who is willing to file an I-864 for you, or he or she may have a household member who is willing to file an I-864A (Contract between Sponsor and Household Member). Remember that every I-864 and I-864A must be accompanied by proof that the filer is a U.S. citizen or legal permanent resident, and the most recent U.S. tax form as of when the I-864 or I-864A was signed. If the petitioner is not working, he or she must state this on the I-864. If the person has not filed a U.S. tax return, regardless of the reason, he or she must explain in writing why not.

[KayDeeCee 4,893]

If we received the hard copy for the NOA2 yesterday should it be at the NVC already?

Oh, I thought you meant the letter from NVC about sending it to CDJ. You can go ahead and call now, but if you wait at least week they may be able to give you all the numbers you need then.

hey look ive been researching i found this at the cdj website

• THE PERSON WHO FILED THE PETITION ON MY BEHALF IS NOT WORKING. DOES HE OR SHE STILL NEED TO SUBMIT AN AFFIDAVIT OF SUPPORT?
  • Yes. If you are subject to the I-864 (Affidavit of Support) requirement, as almost all immigrant visa applicants in Mexico are, the petitioner must submit an I-864 for you. Otherwise, the consular officer will not be able to issue you a visa. This requirement applies even if the petitioner is not working or is working but does not earn enough money to support you. In these circumstances, your petitioner may find a joint sponsor who is willing to file an I-864 for you, or he or she may have a household member who is willing to file an I-864A (Contract between Sponsor and Household Member). Remember that every I-864 and I-864A must be accompanied by proof that the filer is a U.S. citizen or legal permanent resident, and the most recent U.S. tax form as of when the I-864 or I-864A was signed. If the petitioner is not working, he or she must state this on the I-864. If the person has not filed a U.S. tax return, regardless of the reason, he or she must explain in writing why not.

This part is key > Yes. If you are subject to the I-864 (Affidavit of Support) requirement, as almost all immigrant visa applicants in Mexico are, the petitioner must submit an I-864 for you.

The I-864 is NOT required for the K-1. That is even stated in the instructions PDF file. A K-1 is a non-immigrant visa. The I-134 is used for K-1 visas, not the I-864. The I-864A is used by a qualifying household member to accompany the petitioner or joint sponsor's I-864, as I stated before.

I have only heard of one person getting a 221g at the interview and being asked for an I-864 from their joint sponsor(not I-864A). I think it was because they had no income and were claimed as a dependent on their joint sponsor's taxes.

You can go with the misinformation you have been given. That is totally up to you. I am just telling you the correct process and requirements. Lots of folks have gone through Juarez before you, using only I-134 forms. If you bring financial documents for yourself and a co-sponsor, CDJ might accept it no matter what forms you present with the documentation, They are known for being pretty lax about the financials anyway,

Edited June 14, 2013 by Jay-Kay

[aguileralupita30 7]

@cari you do not need the I-864 for the visa. It clearly says it at this website:

http://photos.state....packetk1may.pdf

same website you posted, the I-864 is required for the AOS it says it here...

http://travel.state.gov/visa/immigrants/types/types_2994.html

we are just trying to give you the right info. maybe another website or someone else is giving you false info but the same things Jay-Kay said are online as well. I know I may not know a lot and we are all in a learning process. And this is why Visa Journey is here. we are here to help each other out! and honestly I been here since before we started our journey and they have all been a great help and everything has gone really smooth! Just read over all the info maybe you got a little confused. I mean yes we need the I-864 but that's for AOS and that is when a joint sponsor is accepted meaning this is when they combine the incomes from the petitioner and the joint sponsor. as for the I134 a cosponsor is the one needed and at this point they do not combine the incomes.

*Please correct me if I am wrong Jay-Kay

[KayDeeCee 4,893]

@cari you do not need the I-864 for the visa. It clearly says it at this website:

http://photos.state....packetk1may.pdf

same website you posted, the I-864 is required for the AOS it says it here...

http://travel.state.gov/visa/immigrants/types/types_2994.html

we are just trying to give you the right info. maybe another website or someone else is giving you false info but the same things Jay-Kay said are online as well. I know I may not know a lot and we are all in a learning process. And this is why Visa Journey is here. we are here to help each other out! and honestly I been here since before we started our journey and they have all been a great help and everything has gone really smooth! Just read over all the info maybe you got a little confused. I mean yes we need the I-864 but that's for AOS and that is when a joint sponsor is accepted meaning this is when they combine the incomes from the petitioner and the joint sponsor. as for the I134 a cosponsor is the one needed and at this point they do not combine the incomes.

*Please correct me if I am wrong Jay-Kay

Almost completely correct. The petitioner/sponsor will not combine incomes for AOS either though. The petitioner/primary sponsor fills out an I-864 and a joint sponsor fills out their own separate I-864. If either the primary or joint sponsor have a qualifying household member, such as a spouse, parent, adult child or sibling that resides with them, then the qualifying household member can fill out an I-864A to combine their income with the primary or joint sponsor that is filling out an I-864. A good example of this is the primary sponsor asking a parent to be their joint sponsor for AOS. If the parent is married, then one can fill out the I-864 as the joint sponsor and the other can fill out an I-864A as a qualifying household member of the joint sponsor. Their incomes would be combined to act as joint sponsorship together.

[Cari&Chuy 0]

Almost completely correct. The petitioner/sponsor will not combine incomes for AOS either though. The petitioner/primary sponsor fills out an I-864 and a joint sponsor fills out their own separate I-864. If either the primary or joint sponsor have a qualifying household member, such as a spouse, parent, adult child or sibling that resides with them, then the qualifying household member can fill out an I-864A to combine their income with the primary or joint sponsor that is filling out an I-864. A good example of this is the primary sponsor asking a parent to be their joint sponsor for AOS. If the parent is married, then one can fill out the I-864 as the joint sponsor and the other can fill out an I-864A as a qualifying household member of the joint sponsor. Their incomes would be combined to act as joint sponsorship together.

thank you so much you guys im so sorry im just scared confuse with all of this you guys are a great help and im just so confuse on what to do

ok so my father being the co sponsor for my fiance and i has to fill out the same form i filled out which is the i-134 rite.

and for the aos thats when he will do the i-186a and i-186 rite? or em i still confuse?

i even called rapid visa and they insist but i go over all of the comments and everything here in visa-journey and all of you guys say the same thing please help me

rite now at the moment i filled out my i-134 for me i have my pay stubs, my employment verification, my w2's, my 2010 2011 and 2012 tax returns

for my father i have his paystubs his employment verification, his w2's and his tax returns for 2010 2011 and 2012.

what else em i missing also my father works in contruction so when his not working for his company he works with at a lawyer at his home doing contruction for him he did a letter and did a notarized the letter and at times he also gets unemployment should we add that too???

and like you guys are saying ima need for my father an i-134 how would i fill it out is there somewhere i can see an example im sorry you guys if im being so stubborn saying about the i-186a is because i payed for there service and i expected them to give me correct info im just so lost and dont noe what to think and im soo stressed becuase ima go see my fiancee in less then a month now and i want to have everything in order before i go and he gets the interview im sorry please help me :'(

look this is what rapid visa sent me!

Replace This Page With Evidence to Support Your Form I-134

All sponsors must submit the following documentation with their Form I-134, Affidavit of Support:

1. Proof of current employment or self employment. A letter from your employer on company

letterhead showing your income is good evidence. You must also include at a minimum your last

four pay stubs.

2. A photocopy or an Internal Revenue Service-issued transcript of your complete Federal income

tax return for your most recent tax year, or an explanation if it is not submitted. If you are selfemployed, you should have completed one of the following forms with your Federal income tax

return: Schedule C (Profit or Loss from Business), Schedule D (Capital Gains), Schedule E

(Supplemental Income or Loss) or Schedule F (Profit or Loss from Farming). You must include each

and every Form 1040 Schedule, if any, that you filed with your Federal tax return.

3. Your W-2s and/or 1099 forms (photocopies only, not originals).

4. You may also, at your option, submit a photocopy or an Internal Revenue Service-issued

transcript of your complete Federal income tax returns for your second and third most recent tax

years if you believe these additional tax returns may help you establish the ability to maintain your

household income at the governing threshold set forth in Form I-864P, Poverty Guidelines. You can

see the Poverty Guidelines here: http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/i-864p.pdf .

5. Occasionally a consulate will ask for your last 6-9 months bank statements, especially if you are

self employed. If possible, you should go ahead and include these bank statements just in case.

The Form I-134 must have your original signature. This means you must sign and mail to the

alien. They will not accept a scanned or faxed signature!

If you are using the income of persons in your household or dependents to qualify as a sponsor,

you must also submit a separate Form I-864A, Contract Between Sponsor and Household Member,

plus all of the evidence listed above for each person whose income you will use.

This placeholder page is in the proper order for submission. Replace with evidence.

Remember to remove this page and all other pages with the

"DO NOT MAIL" border before you mail your package!

[KayDeeCee 4,893]

I do not know why they are throwing in the I-864A with the I-134 in their instructions. It is wrong and they should stop it. The I-864A is a form used for a household member that you reside with, yes, but it is to go along with an I-864, not an I-134. The forms are not interchangeable.

You fill out your I-134 and supply your documents. Your dad will fill out his own separate I-134 and supply his documents. What you have listed is good. If he works 2 jobs, then he should add up his income from both and list that in the current annual income. His pay stubs and letters from employers are his proof of employment. If the 2nd job is one where he is an independent contractor and self-employed working for a certain person, then he should have received an 1099 for that and his 2012 taxes would reflect that income. He should also include proof of being a USC or LPR with a copy of US birth certificate, naturalization, bio page of US passport or front and back of green card.

After you are married and at the adjustment of status stage, the I-864 will be required. If you still need a joint sponsor, then you and your father will both fill out your own I-864 forms. If he has a qualifying household member he wishes to combine income with, such as a spouse, then his spouse could fill out an I-864A to combine their income with his on his I-864. Those 2 together would then act as your joint sponsorship.

Just focus on the K-1 interview and what you need for that right now though. Here is the example for for the I-134 > http://www.visajourney.com/examples/Form-I-134.pdf

[Cari&Chuy 0]

I do not know why they are throwing in the I-864A with the I-134 in their instructions. It is wrong and they should stop it. The I-864A is a form used for a household member that you reside with, yes, but it is to go along with an I-864, not an I-134. The forms are not interchangeable.

You fill out your I-134 and supply your documents. Your dad will fill out his own separate I-134 and supply his documents. What you have listed is good. If he works 2 jobs, then he should add up his income from both and list that in the current annual income. His pay stubs and letters from employers are his proof of employment. If the 2nd job is one where he is an independent contractor and self-employed working for a certain person, then he should have received an 1099 for that and his 2012 taxes would reflect that income. He should also include proof of being a USC or LPR with a copy of US birth certificate, naturalization, bio page of US passport or front and back of green card.

After you are married and at the adjustment of status stage, the I-864 will be required. If you still need a joint sponsor, then you and your father will both fill out your own I-864 forms. If he has a qualifying household member he wishes to combine income with, such as a spouse, then his spouse could fill out an I-864A to combine their income with his on his I-864. Those 2 together would then act as your joint sponsorship.

Just focus on the K-1 interview and what you need for that right now though. Here is the example for for the I-134 > http://www.visajourney.com/examples/Form-I-134.pdf

thank you sooo much you have no idea how thankful i am , and yes i dont know why they are doing this im just not gonna do the aos with them im just gonna ask on here