Jury's look into Trayvon Martin's past has its limits

[Mrs Carrot 89]

Jury's look into Trayvon Martin's past has its limits

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/06/07/18832092-jurys-look-into-trayvon-martins-past-has-its-limits?lite

By Tracy Connor, NBC News

In the 15 months since their deadly altercation, George Zimmerman's and Travyon Martin’s pasts have been under a microscope, but recent court rulings could sharply restrict what a jury hears about any events that took place before their encounter on the fateful night.

Florida Circuit Judge Debra Nelson has declared a number of items off-limits for now to jurors who will decide if Zimmerman, 29, is guilty of second-degree murder in shooting death of Martin, 17.

They include:

• A photo in which Martin shows his gold teeth to the camera while sticking up his middle fingers.
• Martin’s school records, which include a suspension from his Miami high school -- less than a month before his altercation with Zimmerman – for possessing a baggie with marijuana residue.
• Texts and photos from Martin’s cellphone that refer to or show firearms. "U gotta gun?" reads a text from Martin's phone, sent eight days before his death. The defense cited a photo of a hand holding a gun, taken with Martin’s phone, and another picture of a gun on a bed.
• Texts with marijuana references, and photos that show Martin blowing smoke and what appear to be marijuana plants.
• Texts and video that suggest that Martin was involved in organized fights.

Prosecutors argued that the information was irrelevant to what happened the night of Feb. 26, 2012, between two strangers who crossed paths in a gated community of Sanford, Fla., and Martin’s family accused the defense of trying to poison the jury pool with an unflattering portrayal of the teen.

After a hearing late last month, Nelson ruled the texts, photos and school records cannot be mentioned in opening statements or while the jury is in the courtroom unless she decides otherwise later.

There are a couple of scenarios under which Nelson might admit the items as evidence, legal analyst Kendall Coffey told NBC News.

“If the prosecution through its presentation puts undue emphasis on Trayvon Martin having an impeccable record, or tries to indicate to a jury that he never had a problem with anyone in his life, you can expect the defense to jump up and vigorously demand they be allowed to rebut that,” Coffey said.

As a result, prosecutors are likely to be very cautious in characterizing Martin so they don’t open the door for Zimmerman’s team to bring in evidence that could make the teen look unsavory to jurors. “And the defense is going to be listening with big ears,” Coffey said.

The defense, he said, may have the most luck in getting the allegation that Martin was an experienced fighter before the jury.

“That’s blockbuster stuff, if they can get it into evidence, to suggest Trayvon Martin was a violent young man,” Coffey said. The trick, he said, would be finding someone from Martin’s community who knew him well enough and would be willing to testify on behalf of Zimmerman.

The judge has not yet decided whether the jury can hear that Martin had the active ingredient in marijuana in his system when he was killed, according to the autopsy report. The defense and prosecution disagree on the significance of the amount detected.

At a pre-trial hearing last week, Zimmerman lawyer Mark O’Mara stressed that he only planned to bring up Martin’s past if prosecutors tried to delve into his client’s history. Details O'Mara might not want the jury to hear include:

• Zimmerman’s 2005 arrest for “resisting officer with violence” and “battery of law enforcement officer” after a confrontation with an officer who was questioning a friend for alleged underage drinking. The charges were reduced to “resisting officer without violence” and then waived when he entered an alcohol education program, according to court documents.
• A 2005 civil motion filed by Zimmerman’s ex-fiancee for a restraining order alleging domestic violence. Zimmerman counterfiled for a restraining order, and both were granted.

Coffey said the judge will rule on those issues as they arise and said it could depend on whether Zimmerman, who has pleaded not guilty, testifies in his own defense.

“If George Zimmerman gets on the stand and tells his life story as witnesses typically do, a broader category of things about his background are fair game,” he said.

Pool / Pool / Reuters

The trial of George Zimmerman, shown here at a hearing last month, begins Monday with jury selection.

[GandD 5,966]

Great

[Bugs 455]

The jury selection hasn't even started yet? Dang, this is going to be one looooooooonnnnng trial....zzzzzzz....wake me up when they announce the verdict lol.

[Karee 4,190]

Jury's look into Trayvon Martin's past has its limits

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/06/07/18832092-jurys-look-into-trayvon-martins-past-has-its-limits?lite

By Tracy Connor, NBC News

In the 15 months since their deadly altercation, George Zimmerman's and Travyon Martin’s pasts have been under a microscope, but recent court rulings could sharply restrict what a jury hears about any events that took place before their encounter on the fateful night.

Florida Circuit Judge Debra Nelson has declared a number of items off-limits for now to jurors who will decide if Zimmerman, 29, is guilty of second-degree murder in shooting death of Martin, 17.

They include:

• A photo in which Martin shows his gold teeth to the camera while sticking up his middle fingers.
• Martin’s school records, which include a suspension from his Miami high school -- less than a month before his altercation with Zimmerman – for possessing a baggie with marijuana residue.
• Texts and photos from Martin’s cellphone that refer to or show firearms. "U gotta gun?" reads a text from Martin's phone, sent eight days before his death. The defense cited a photo of a hand holding a gun, taken with Martin’s phone, and another picture of a gun on a bed.
• Texts with marijuana references, and photos that show Martin blowing smoke and what appear to be marijuana plants.
• Texts and video that suggest that Martin was involved in organized fights.

Prosecutors argued that the information was irrelevant to what happened the night of Feb. 26, 2012, between two strangers who crossed paths in a gated community of Sanford, Fla., and Martin’s family accused the defense of trying to poison the jury pool with an unflattering portrayal of the teen.

After a hearing late last month, Nelson ruled the texts, photos and school records cannot be mentioned in opening statements or while the jury is in the courtroom unless she decides otherwise later.

There are a couple of scenarios under which Nelson might admit the items as evidence, legal analyst Kendall Coffey told NBC News.

“If the prosecution through its presentation puts undue emphasis on Trayvon Martin having an impeccable record, or tries to indicate to a jury that he never had a problem with anyone in his life, you can expect the defense to jump up and vigorously demand they be allowed to rebut that,” Coffey said.

As a result, prosecutors are likely to be very cautious in characterizing Martin so they don’t open the door for Zimmerman’s team to bring in evidence that could make the teen look unsavory to jurors. “And the defense is going to be listening with big ears,” Coffey said.

The defense, he said, may have the most luck in getting the allegation that Martin was an experienced fighter before the jury.

“That’s blockbuster stuff, if they can get it into evidence, to suggest Trayvon Martin was a violent young man,” Coffey said. The trick, he said, would be finding someone from Martin’s community who knew him well enough and would be willing to testify on behalf of Zimmerman.

The judge has not yet decided whether the jury can hear that Martin had the active ingredient in marijuana in his system when he was killed, according to the autopsy report. The defense and prosecution disagree on the significance of the amount detected.

At a pre-trial hearing last week, Zimmerman lawyer Mark O’Mara stressed that he only planned to bring up Martin’s past if prosecutors tried to delve into his client’s history. Details O'Mara might not want the jury to hear include:

• Zimmerman’s 2005 arrest for “resisting officer with violence” and “battery of law enforcement officer” after a confrontation with an officer who was questioning a friend for alleged underage drinking. The charges were reduced to “resisting officer without violence” and then waived when he entered an alcohol education program, according to court documents.
• A 2005 civil motion filed by Zimmerman’s ex-fiancee for a restraining order alleging domestic violence. Zimmerman counterfiled for a restraining order, and both were granted.

Coffey said the judge will rule on those issues as they arise and said it could depend on whether Zimmerman, who has pleaded not guilty, testifies in his own defense.

“If George Zimmerman gets on the stand and tells his life story as witnesses typically do, a broader category of things about his background are fair game,” he said.

Pool / Pool / Reuters

The trial of George Zimmerman, shown here at a hearing last month, begins Monday with jury selection.

How come you're not over in Games running your automation script?

[GandD 5,966]

How come you're not over in Games running your automation script?

I think it's an on going joke for them. Mr smiley dumped a TM/GZ post and ran last time. That was the longest thread last month in p&r. He never showed up after initial post.

[Karee 4,190]

I think it's an on going joke for them. Mr smiley dumped a TM/GZ post and ran last time. That was the longest thread last month in p&r. He never showed up after initial post.

I'm trying to figure out what program they're using. I'm thinking maybe HP Quick Test Pro, or something along those lines. Some type of automated script.

Take a look and tell me if you see a pattern:

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/430101-write-a-number-game/page-289

Goes on for pages and pages.

ETA:

Could be racking up page views for ad revenue as well. Who knows?

Edited June 9, 2013 by Karee

[GandD 5,966]

I'm trying to figure out what program they're using. I'm thinking maybe HP Quick Test Pro, or something along those lines. Some type of automated script.

Take a look and tell me if you see a pattern:

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/430101-write-a-number-game/page-289

Goes on for pages and pages.

2 and 22. #######?

It was odds and evens but after 12 she jumped to 144 then started increasing by 22 each time. He is always by 2

Edited June 9, 2013 by GandD

[Karee 4,190]

2 and 22. #######?

It was odds and evens but after 12 she jumped to 144 then started increasing by 22 each time. He is always by 2

Yeah it's some kind of script.

[GandD 5,966]

Yeah it's some kind of script.

For sure. I assume just to add active post count?

[Karee 4,190]

For sure. I assume just to add active post count?

That or generate web hits for VJ. I work in the lab at Verizon. We have software that runs constantly on our internal systems to test them. I made a joke one day that it could be used to try and hack passwords. I got a funny look from them, and I never brought it up again.

[Darnell 8,478]

Mr. Smiley - does Mrs. Carrot care that you are using her VJ account for fun and profit ?

[Darnell 8,478]

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this sucks, much.

After a hearing late last month, Nelson ruled the texts, photos and school records cannot be mentioned in opening statements or while the jury is in the courtroom unless she decides otherwise later.

So, all evidence of the moral decay of the family unit of TM gets entirely discounted, cannot show it or use it.

f*cktards.

[GandD 5,966]

That or generate web hits for VJ. I work in the lab at Verizon. We have software that runs constantly on our internal systems to test them. I made a joke one day that it could be used to try and hack passwords. I got a funny look from them, and I never brought it up again.

Prob a good idea.

[Darnell 8,478]

How come you're not over in Games running your automation script?

That's a decent question, really.

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/422128-thinking-of-words/

But does it matter?

Edited June 9, 2013 by Darnell

[Karee 4,190]

That's a decent question, really.

But does it matter?

It doesn't matter to me personally. Just curious. It seems posting some one off article in P&R is straying from the obvious goal of posting as many nonsense posts in the games forum as quickly as possible.