AOS and EAD

[kaffykat 0]

Well I have added you to the CSC TRANSFER LIST, so you can do a comparison for yourself AquarianJane..

[Waiting in Vancouver 6]

You can draw an estimate from a small sample. Look at any scientific staudy, you can extrapolate a result rom a small sample of the populatiopn and predict outcome for "most" people based on the data.

Simple.

Nothing is simple with USCIS.

My only point is I don't believe it is wise to advise members that a CSC transfer means an interviewless, speedy approval. It can lead to disappointment.

Thank you for the clarification ... I'll make sure I don't give any more positive advice on VJ ...

Waiting, positive information is always appreciated. All I'm trying to say is that everyone may not get the positive result you got from CSC.

From my perspective, I'm seeing what may end up being poor choices being made by other VJ members based upon the current CSC trend. I see members not filing for AP and EAD because first of all it is expensive to do so, and secondly they are 'gambling' that a CSC transfer will get them a speedy greencard.

I realize that my husband's case was not transferred to California, but I would absolutely HATE to see anybody else go through what we are experiencing with his greencard. We filed for it over a year ago, and just had to order a second EAD.

All I'm suggesting is at this point we should all remain cautiously optimistic about CSC. We really don't know if this pattern is long-term or simply an effort to clear a backlog.

And the larger picture is we don't know what may happen 2 years from now when lifting of conditions are filed by these couples. Will they then have to be interiewed? Will the process to naturalization be slowed down for them at this point for some yet unknown reason? Worse yet, will some be denied after having settled in the US?

I just think it's way to early to call what's happening at CSC a benefit, and that's all.

First off I would like to say that I know I don't have experience with what you and your husband are going through and I don't think it is fair what USCIS is doing to you ... I hope that they get off their butts and approve your husband's AOS one of these days ...

I also agree with you that not applying for EAD/AP is very risky ... If I ever give advice regarding these applications then I always explain the negatives about not applying and in the past I have used your name as someone who has personally experience about how long of delays the AOS journey can have ...

As for CSC, your correct on that fact that we don't really know what will happen to all of us that have had speedy approvals when it comes time to remove conditions in 2 years ... In this particular post I was just commenting on what CSC has been doing lately and what my personal experience has been ....

[rebeccajo 14]

First off I would like to say that I know I don't have experience with what you and your husband are going through and I don't think it is fair what USCIS is doing to you ... I hope that they get off their butts and approve your husband's AOS one of these days ...

I also agree with you that not applying for EAD/AP is very risky ... If I ever give advice regarding these applications then I always explain the negatives about not applying and in the past I have used your name as someone who has personally experience about how long of delays the AOS journey can have ...

As for CSC, your correct on that fact that we don't really know what will happen to all of us that have had speedy approvals when it comes time to remove conditions in 2 years ... In this particular post I was just commenting on what CSC has been doing lately and what my personal experience has been ....

Waiting, I didn't mean to infer that your experience has no relevance or is unimportant. Also thank you for your concern about my husband's approval - I appreciate that. We don't mind if you use us as an example of how things can go amiss with AOS because it is an unfortunate example that we think members should be aware of.

Our case is 'complex' because the problem is not with USCIS - it is with the FBI. Our office is handling our case properly and our file is not lost. It's also relevant to discussions about what one can and can't do to move a case along. At this point in our journey there is naught anyone can do - not even a Senator. The FBI holds no 'time is of the essence' accountability to USCIS despite our governments concerns for national security.

Each time I read a new member say they aren't going to file for interims because they've noticed that greencard approvals are speeding up, or because they think they might get a CSC transfer, I grit my teeth. Back a year ago no one in this community subscribed to that type of thinking. I would like to think that things are improving with the process, but unfortunately my experience is the improvements are not widespread enough to take that kind of gamble. We needed my husband to work as soon as he possibly could - if we had gambled on the EAD we would have been sunk.

[Waiting in Vancouver 6]

Waiting, I didn't mean to infer that your experience has no relevance or is unimportant. Also thank you for your concern about my husband's approval - I appreciate that. We don't mind if you use us as an example of how things can go amiss with AOS because it is an unfortunate example that we think members should be aware of.

Our case is 'complex' because the problem is not with USCIS - it is with the FBI. Our office is handling our case properly and our file is not lost. It's also relevant to discussions about what one can and can't do to move a case along. At this point in our journey there is naught anyone can do - not even a Senator. The FBI holds no 'time is of the essence' accountability to USCIS despite our governments concerns for national security.

Each time I read a new member say they aren't going to file for interims because they've noticed that greencard approvals are speeding up, or because they think they might get a CSC transfer, I grit my teeth. Back a year ago no one in this community subscribed to that type of thinking. I would like to think that things are improving with the process, but unfortunately my experience is the improvements are not widespread enough to take that kind of gamble. We needed my husband to work as soon as he possibly could - if we had gambled on the EAD we would have been sunk.

I am very intrested in how the FBI does this so called name check ... What sort of research have you do on the whole process ??

Is the first part of the process some sort of automated thing ?? That a computer does the check and it nothing comes up then it is approved so that a human doesn't have to actually do anything?? If it comes up with a hit then does say a human have to manual do some digging through the system??

I just can't figure out why it would take so long for them to check out some peoples names? And how other people can be so easily put ahead of you ...

[rebeccajo 14]

I am very intrested in how the FBI does this so called name check ... What sort of research have you do on the whole process ??

Is the first part of the process some sort of automated thing ?? That a computer does the check and it nothing comes up then it is approved so that a human doesn't have to actually do anything?? If it comes up with a hit then does say a human have to manual do some digging through the system??

I just can't figure out why it would take so long for them to check out some peoples names? And how other people can be so easily put ahead of you ...

You've basically outlined the process in your second paragraph.

The fingerprint check usually takes a couple of weeks and involves a search of domestic records for criminal activity.

The IBIS check is multi-agency and multi-national; we don't really know a lot about IBIS as it's not easily 'googled' but we do know it lists individuals who are known national security risks.

The FBI namecheck is a separate matter from these two searches and is generally what causes the lengthy delay. It checks the immigrants name not only as reported to USCIS but also in many variations. These names are checked to a range of birth dates. If there is any type of match or 'hit' then manual records must be searched. At this point the problem becomes technological, as the FBI maintains 12 separate computer databases which must be further searched, and stores paper records in 265 locations.

Edited November 25, 2006 by rebeccajo

[aquarianjane 0]

Thanks Kaffykat for including me in the list.

I am just glad I included the EAD with our AOS application. With the number of cases that have been approved without interview in 90 days or less, it is indeed tempting to just risk filing the AOS without the EAD, but as my hubby said "it is a risk we will be taking". The $180 dollar one pays for EAD is a worthwhile investment if one looks at it from the timeframes point of view.

Heck, I don't want to wait for another two or three months just to get to work. I have had enough vacation from work.

[Waiting in Vancouver 6]

Thanks Kaffykat for including me in the list.

I am just glad I included the EAD with our AOS application. With the number of cases that have been approved without interview in 90 days or less, it is indeed tempting to just risk filing the AOS without the EAD, but as my hubby said "it is a risk we will be taking". The $180 dollar one pays for EAD is a worthwhile investment if one looks at it from the timeframes point of view.

Heck, I don't want to wait for another two or three months just to get to work. I have had enough vacation from work.

We took the same approach and applied for EAD and not for AP ... We figured the EAD would more than pay for it self once I find a job ... We didn't apply for AP but to be honest it would have to be something very serious in my situation for me to return to Canada prematurily ... My family is not what one would call "close"... I am usually the one who has to instigate the phone calls and we don't have a good calling plan to Canada unlike my family members who have unlimited from Canada to US ...

I am by no means suggesting others to not apply for AP as their situations could be entirely different than mine ...