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Hallo everybody...

I suppose there is an answer to my question somewhere here, but I was not able to find it.

So, the question is if I can ship my personal things (via post) to the US before I go there personally (I've got my CR visa and would move to the US in a two weeks approx.). They would be sent to my wife's address (which is my future address too).

I have an option to send them right now with a chance they arrive there before me, or to send them a day or two before I take a plane to the US, in which case I will be there before my things.

I was planning to fill a form 3299 and since I can buy a plain ticket immediately I could theoretically fill the required fields for date and point of entry in the form. I also wanted to add a copy of my passport and visa page and a short explanation letter.

Would that work?

I would be grateful to anybody knowing answer to this question or pointing me to the thread where I can find more info...

Thanks!

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Your stuff cannot precede you to the USA because until you POE, you are not yet a US LPR.

You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes. You can steer yourself any direction you choose.  - Dr. Seuss

 

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I'm very curious about the same topic, as my fiancé will be coming in August or September and we're trying to figure out shipping. I don't understand our options at all, it's confusing me a lot.

- he's a K-1, will he be a "resident" and qualify for the Form 3299? He won't technically be a resident until we AOS after our marriage?

- can we ship the items a day or two before he leaves and therefore he will have arrived by the time they do?

- do the items get held somewhere and we have to pick them up, or do they continue in normal postal mail?

Totally lost and I need help.

How do other people do this, it's gotta be one of the most common things in the world. But he certainly can't be IN THE USA and still trying to ship his belongings from Finland, so how is he supposed to fulfill both "LPR" and "shipping from Finland" at the same time???

Alternately, is there any chance *I* can ship his belongings to ME in the USA? I am going to be in Finland this summer anyway, can I ship his clothing and books in my name to myself as a US citizen, or is that violating some law since they are technically still "his" possessions?

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Relationship since April 2006

K-1 Visa: I-129F filed November 6, 2012, NOA2 May 17, 2013, Interview and Approval July 24, 2013

POE San Diego, September 13, 2013, Wedding October 25, 2013

AOS filed November 19, 2013, EAD/AP received January 30, 2014, interview and AOS Approval on February 27, 2014.

ROC filed December 3, 2015, NOA1 12/4/15, Biometrics 12/31/15, ROC Approval on June 16, 2016, 10-Year Green Card received June 22, 2016.

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Relationship:
2006 April 01: Met online, music site, 2007 February 20: Met in person, Finland, 2007 - 2012 met several times in Finland and California

K-1 Visa:
2012 November 06: Sent I-129F (NOA1 on 11/9/2012)
2013 May 14: Contacted Congressman
2013 May 17: I-129F NOA2 Approved
2013 June 03: NVC Received (NVC left 6/6/13)
2013 June 10: Consulate Received, 2013 June 13: Medical, 2013 June 25: Sent Packet 3/4
2013 July 24: Interview in Helsinki, 2013 July 27: Visa Received
2013 September 13: POE to USA, San Diego

AOS:
2013 October 22: SSN Received
2013 October 25: Wedding, San Marcos, CA
2013 November 19: AOS, AP, EAD sent (NOA 1 on 11/22/13)
2013 December 17: Biometrics, San Marcos, CA, 2013 December 24: Online status changed to Testing/Interview

2014 January 23: Interview notice mailed (for 2/27), 2014 January 24: EAD card production, AP approval (card received 1/30/2014)

2014 February 27: Interview and Approval, GC in production (card received March 6, 2014)

 

ROC:

2015 December 03: mailed I-751 package

2015 December 04: NOA1 extension letter, 2015 December 31: Biometrics appointment

2016 June 16: Approval - Online status changed to Document Production, mailed 6/20/16

2016 June 22: 10-Year Green Card Received, done with USCIS for a while!

 

N-400 Citizenship:

2023 September 14: filed N-400 online

2023 September 14: same day acceptance notice and "Biometrics Reuse" notice

2023 December 28: notice of interview scheduled for February 13, 2024

2024 February 13: naturalization interview (five-year rule) passed, same day oath - now a US Citizen and done with USCIS!

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I'm very curious about the same topic, as my fiancé will be coming in August or September and we're trying to figure out shipping. I don't understand our options at all, it's confusing me a lot.

- he's a K-1, will he be a "resident" and qualify for the Form 3299? He won't technically be a resident until we AOS after our marriage?

- can we ship the items a day or two before he leaves and therefore he will have arrived by the time they do?

- do the items get held somewhere and we have to pick them up, or do they continue in normal postal mail?

Totally lost and I need help.

How do other people do this, it's gotta be one of the most common things in the world. But he certainly can't be IN THE USA and still trying to ship his belongings from Finland, so how is he supposed to fulfill both "LPR" and "shipping from Finland" at the same time???

He can ship after he gets to the USA. He has legal status in the USA. They may need a copy of his I-94.

You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes. You can steer yourself any direction you choose.  - Dr. Seuss

 

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He can ship after he gets to the USA. He has legal status in the USA. They may need a copy of his I-94.

How can he ship AFTER he's in the USA? He can't go to the Finnish post office from San Diego. What am I missing? Still completely lost on how other people do this.

I edited above post before I saw lower one, so adding on: can I ship his belongings in my name? I'll be in Finland visiting in July, can I ship his books to myself, or are they still "his" possessions and is that somehow illegal? I want to do this right, even pay duty if necessary, but I don't understand the process at all. :(

Relationship since April 2006

K-1 Visa: I-129F filed November 6, 2012, NOA2 May 17, 2013, Interview and Approval July 24, 2013

POE San Diego, September 13, 2013, Wedding October 25, 2013

AOS filed November 19, 2013, EAD/AP received January 30, 2014, interview and AOS Approval on February 27, 2014.

ROC filed December 3, 2015, NOA1 12/4/15, Biometrics 12/31/15, ROC Approval on June 16, 2016, 10-Year Green Card received June 22, 2016.

N400 filed September 14, 2023, same day acceptance and Biometric Reuse notice, Interview on 2/13/24: Passed and same day oath. ALL DONE WITH USCIS.

No RFE at any stage, thanks to VisaJourney!

Detailed Timeline Below!

 

Relationship:
2006 April 01: Met online, music site, 2007 February 20: Met in person, Finland, 2007 - 2012 met several times in Finland and California

K-1 Visa:
2012 November 06: Sent I-129F (NOA1 on 11/9/2012)
2013 May 14: Contacted Congressman
2013 May 17: I-129F NOA2 Approved
2013 June 03: NVC Received (NVC left 6/6/13)
2013 June 10: Consulate Received, 2013 June 13: Medical, 2013 June 25: Sent Packet 3/4
2013 July 24: Interview in Helsinki, 2013 July 27: Visa Received
2013 September 13: POE to USA, San Diego

AOS:
2013 October 22: SSN Received
2013 October 25: Wedding, San Marcos, CA
2013 November 19: AOS, AP, EAD sent (NOA 1 on 11/22/13)
2013 December 17: Biometrics, San Marcos, CA, 2013 December 24: Online status changed to Testing/Interview

2014 January 23: Interview notice mailed (for 2/27), 2014 January 24: EAD card production, AP approval (card received 1/30/2014)

2014 February 27: Interview and Approval, GC in production (card received March 6, 2014)

 

ROC:

2015 December 03: mailed I-751 package

2015 December 04: NOA1 extension letter, 2015 December 31: Biometrics appointment

2016 June 16: Approval - Online status changed to Document Production, mailed 6/20/16

2016 June 22: 10-Year Green Card Received, done with USCIS for a while!

 

N-400 Citizenship:

2023 September 14: filed N-400 online

2023 September 14: same day acceptance notice and "Biometrics Reuse" notice

2023 December 28: notice of interview scheduled for February 13, 2024

2024 February 13: naturalization interview (five-year rule) passed, same day oath - now a US Citizen and done with USCIS!

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Your stuff cannot precede you to the USA because until you POE, you are not yet a US LPR.

But can I send them just a few days before my flight?

According to the post service that I intend to use - it'll take about two weeks (maybe even more) before they arrive to the US.

So, when they arrive - I'll already be there.

Is that ok?

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I want to do this right, even pay duty if necessary, but I don't understand the process at all. sad.png

If you are ready to pay duties - I believe there's no problem to ship anything anyway anytime you want.

My concern is how to use my immigrant right to import my personal belonging duty free, as I have some amount of electronic instruments, tools and components that I use in my everyday work which are not quite cheap so the duties too wouldn't be cheap...

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If you are ready to pay duties - I believe there's no problem to ship anything anyway anytime you want.

My concern is how to use my immigrant right to import my personal belonging duty free, as I have some amount of electronic instruments, tools and components that I use in my everyday work, and which are not quite cheap so the duties too wouldn't be cheap...

No, I understand and of course I don't want to pay duties if I'm not (or he's not) required to. I'm not clear on whether a K-1 is actually an LPR since he's not, really, until after AOS.

I am still not clear on what the form 3299 actually does for a K-1 and much more importantly, how he's supposed to, as everyone says "ship his items after he gets to the USA". If they just mean that the items must ARRIVE after he does, ok ... is that all it means? Not the shipping date but the arrival date?

Didn't mean to hijack your thread though! We really have the same question I think: can we ship items before we leave the country and before POE, as long as they arrive AFTER POE that's okay?

Edited by Lynkali

Relationship since April 2006

K-1 Visa: I-129F filed November 6, 2012, NOA2 May 17, 2013, Interview and Approval July 24, 2013

POE San Diego, September 13, 2013, Wedding October 25, 2013

AOS filed November 19, 2013, EAD/AP received January 30, 2014, interview and AOS Approval on February 27, 2014.

ROC filed December 3, 2015, NOA1 12/4/15, Biometrics 12/31/15, ROC Approval on June 16, 2016, 10-Year Green Card received June 22, 2016.

N400 filed September 14, 2023, same day acceptance and Biometric Reuse notice, Interview on 2/13/24: Passed and same day oath. ALL DONE WITH USCIS.

No RFE at any stage, thanks to VisaJourney!

Detailed Timeline Below!

 

Relationship:
2006 April 01: Met online, music site, 2007 February 20: Met in person, Finland, 2007 - 2012 met several times in Finland and California

K-1 Visa:
2012 November 06: Sent I-129F (NOA1 on 11/9/2012)
2013 May 14: Contacted Congressman
2013 May 17: I-129F NOA2 Approved
2013 June 03: NVC Received (NVC left 6/6/13)
2013 June 10: Consulate Received, 2013 June 13: Medical, 2013 June 25: Sent Packet 3/4
2013 July 24: Interview in Helsinki, 2013 July 27: Visa Received
2013 September 13: POE to USA, San Diego

AOS:
2013 October 22: SSN Received
2013 October 25: Wedding, San Marcos, CA
2013 November 19: AOS, AP, EAD sent (NOA 1 on 11/22/13)
2013 December 17: Biometrics, San Marcos, CA, 2013 December 24: Online status changed to Testing/Interview

2014 January 23: Interview notice mailed (for 2/27), 2014 January 24: EAD card production, AP approval (card received 1/30/2014)

2014 February 27: Interview and Approval, GC in production (card received March 6, 2014)

 

ROC:

2015 December 03: mailed I-751 package

2015 December 04: NOA1 extension letter, 2015 December 31: Biometrics appointment

2016 June 16: Approval - Online status changed to Document Production, mailed 6/20/16

2016 June 22: 10-Year Green Card Received, done with USCIS for a while!

 

N-400 Citizenship:

2023 September 14: filed N-400 online

2023 September 14: same day acceptance notice and "Biometrics Reuse" notice

2023 December 28: notice of interview scheduled for February 13, 2024

2024 February 13: naturalization interview (five-year rule) passed, same day oath - now a US Citizen and done with USCIS!

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how he's supposed to, as everyone says "ship his items after he gets to the USA". If they just mean that the items must ARRIVE after he does, ok ... is that all it means? Not the shipping date but the arrival date?

I, too, am not sure what's that all about.

I've read somewhere that there is some number (which you get with your I-94 at the POE) which you should enter somewhere in form 3299

(which is "DECLARATION FOR FREE ENTRY OF UNACCOMPANIED ARTICLES" which you can find here: http://forms.cbp.gov/pdf/cbp_form_3299.pdf)

However, I couldn't find where's that I-94 number required in that 3299 form. There are fields for date and point of entry, but not for that I-94 number...?!

It's hard for me to believe that you can't send your own stuff at the time you are leaving, but need to have someone behind to send your stuff for you at some later point, for what he/she apparently should have some kind of certified authorization from you given to him together with the copy of your passport, visa-page and so on...?!

I think I'll just send my stuff few days before my flight, fill the 3299 form with the date and POE according to the flight ticket, add the copy of my passport and visa page, a short explanation letter and put everything together in the box (or on the box).

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Hallo everybody...

I suppose there is an answer to my question somewhere here, but I was not able to find it.

So, the question is if I can ship my personal things (via post) to the US before I go there personally (I've got my CR visa and would move to the US in a two weeks approx.). They would be sent to my wife's address (which is my future address too).

I have an option to send them right now with a chance they arrive there before me, or to send them a day or two before I take a plane to the US, in which case I will be there before my things.

I was planning to fill a form 3299 and since I can buy a plain ticket immediately I could theoretically fill the required fields for date and point of entry in the form. I also wanted to add a copy of my passport and visa page and a short explanation letter.

Would that work?

I would be grateful to anybody knowing answer to this question or pointing me to the thread where I can find more info...

Thanks!

I'll be leaving with a K-1 visa in a week.

I sent 2 heavy packages with all my books and some household stuff via DHL 3 weeks ago.

Sent it from Germany and didnt use a specific form. Just the normal declaration that was attached with the adress. I had to name every item and it's value in there.

I also declared it to be private moving goods.

Both packages arrived without any problems.

Don't know how much stuff you need to send but hope this helps!

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Yes your items must arrive after you do. I apologize for being unclear on this. I get that you can't pack it up and send it after you arrive. My bad!

My situation is a little different since I'm in Canada, but I know that my goods cannot go across the border until they have proof that I have. Even if the goods are unaccompanied. However, being across the ocean is likely a different story. Perhaps in your regional forum they might have some better ideas.

I understand that a k1 doesn't become an LPR until after they AOS, and if I say LPR to a CR1/IR1 person, that is because it is a different situation. On a K1 they still understand you are moving to the USA. Despite the fact it's deemed as a "non-immigrant visa" it really isn't one. You obtain paperwork showing you have a legal status in the USA. Meaning that you have the right to be in the USA, living in the USA. You may need that paperwork to clear your items. Of course it depends on how much you intend to send. If it's a few boxes, I can't see it being a big deal. If, like my husband did when moving back from Guam, it's containers full of household items, that takes weeks to ship and you'll have no problem having the paperwork ready if needed.

You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes. You can steer yourself any direction you choose.  - Dr. Seuss

 

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That form has a box for people emigrating to the US. I see no indication that the person "emigrating" must be in the US already, and frankly it doesn't make sense. There is even a box there for visitors and non-residents.

You can always call cbp and ask them. They are friendly.

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8/17/10: INTERVIEW DAY (day 123) APPROVED!!

ROC:
5/23/12: Sent out package
2/06/13: APPROVED!

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I will be moving to Illinois soon on a CR1 visa and I am somewhat confused about all this shipping malarkey. Surely it's ok to send your belongings over via a courier company? Why would customs be interested in personal items such as books, cd's etc? I was thinking of taking a few extra cases with me when I fly over but today I noticed British Airways have doubled there prices from £70 per checked bag to £140.

I really need someone on here to explain the process of posting boxes of personal items over via courier company? Would one need to fill in a form of its contents and if so what is this form called and where do you obtain one from? I know when I've posted gifts to the states at the post office there's a tiny customs declaration you need to fill in and sign, but is this the same form you need to post a bigger parcel via courier company?

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I found there's custom fees paid on certain items

like tools for your trade , some personal effects

etc, however after a few days (I think 5) storage fees

are incured.So they suggest not shipping too soon

before leaving your country

Thank you for the info Jawaree...

Does anyone know what items you would need to pay custom fees on? Does one just fill out the normal customs declaration you get for posting gifts etc to the U.S.A from the post office?

Just confused why customs would be interested in personal belongings, such as clothes, cd's, books etc!

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