Supreme Court Won't Review Indiana's Case Against Planned Parenthood

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Well, as long as it conforms with what they consider to be responsible. It's unfair to assume all republicans are evil or that all liberals are bums for that matter.

How does the advocacy for personal responsibility play into the Republican's unanimous vote to revert back to a system where no personal responsibility is required when it comes to one's health care? They all voted 37 times now to end the health insurance mandate before it takes effect. Not only did Republicans first think this up and proposed it as policy but it reflects the very essence of personal responsibility in the area of health care. Why are they so opposed to people taking personal responsibility for their health care cost? No man, that dog don't hunt.

[GandD 5,966]

How does the advocacy for personal responsibility play into the Republican's unanimous vote to revert back to a system where no personal responsibility is required when it comes to one's health care? They all voted 37 times now to end the health insurance mandate before it takes effect. Not only did Republicans first think this up and proposed it as policy but it reflects the very essence of personal responsibility in the area of health care. Why are they so opposed to people taking personal responsibility for their health care cost? No man, that dog don't hunt.

It's more political than logical. Conservatives see Obama care as the next step towards socialization of the medical system. The goal is up paint this picture clearly to the American people to gain support for a rally against socialist America in the next election. The republican leadership wants to demonize and discredit this president based on the inherited republican strategy of destroy and conquer handed down by Karl rove and the Gwb campaign and for that I personally think they can all go pound sand.

However, the conservative populous is not this obtuse in my estimation. They will often focus on the easily obtained example of the people that play the welfare game. It is rediculous and they have a point. I think their misconception is the percentage of people abusing the system, which tend to be visibly screwed by the most outlandish offenders. I'd say any system that promotes laziness and ignorance is flawed but we have to do what we can and not close off exploited loopholes less we remove assistance for anyone who really needs it.

I guess some see a broken system and say, let's fix it and others see it and say we'd be better off without it.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

It's more political than logical. Conservatives see Obama care as the next step towards socialization of the medical system.

Bullchit. It's not logical at all. It's entirely political. Remember that Obamacare originated from the GOP. That being the case, you are suggesting that Republicans see their own policy proposals as the next step towards socialization of the medical system. Surely, you can't be serious?

[GandD 5,966]

Bullchit. It's not logical at all. It's entirely political. Remember that Obamacare originated from the GOP. That being the case, you are suggesting that Republicans see their own policy proposals as the next step towards socialization of the medical system. Surely, you can't be serious?

No. But that's what they want America to think. How many of them have taken the argument that Obama stole this idea from them?

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

No. But that's what they want America to think. How many of them have taken the argument that Obama stole this idea from them?

None. They're even denying that they ever proposed such policy even though it's easy to verify that they did. 1993. The Newt vs. Clinton's health care reform effort. Only the dimmest of the dim and the severely uninformed could possibly fall for this kind of Republican bull. Seriously.

[GandD 5,966]

None. They're even denying that they ever proposed such policy even though it's easy to verify that they did. 1993. The Newt vs. Clinton's health care reform effort. Only the dimmest of the dim and the severely uninformed could possibly fall for this kind of Republican bull. Seriously.

Do you think the Republican leadership does the bidding of their base or convinces their base to do their bidding?

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Do you think the Republican leadership does the bidding of their base or convinces their base to do their bidding?

The latter. That's why they have Fox and Rush and Farah and whatnot. To whip their painfully uninformed base into a frenzy.

[GandD 5,966]

The latter. That's why they have Fox and Rush and Farah and whatnot. To whip their painfully uninformed base into a frenzy.

I tend to agree somewhat. To what degree what you say this is true for the Democrats?

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

I tend to agree somewhat. To what degree what you say this is true for the Democrats?

Don't know. I am not married to a single news source. I gather my news from different places - both politically and geographically. I think that this profile is more likely to be found among progressives than conservatives. There isn't a News Network, a talk radio program or the like in the progressive sphere that has the kind of loyal following that the right wing media enjoys. Rush's infamous dittoheads, if you will.

[GandD 5,966]

Don't know. I am not married to a single news source. I gather my news from different places - both politically and geographically. I think that this profile is more likely to be found among progressives than conservatives. There isn't a News Network, a talk radio program or the like in the progressive sphere that has the kind of loyal following that the right wing media enjoys. Rush's infamous dittoheads, if you will.

I wasn't trying to make it about you.

But, I would agree with you that the core fear of change in the heart of many conservatives makes them ripe for the fear mongering.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

I wasn't trying to make it about you.

But, I would agree with you that the core fear of change in the heart of many conservatives makes them ripe for the fear mongering.

I know you weren't talking about me. What I was trying to get at is that as a progressive, I tend to gather my news and information from a rather large pool of sources. Conservatives appear to flock to more consolidated sources. No other way to explain the large and loyal followings that some of these outlets enjoy. Progressive news outlets dream of such followings but never achieve them. Less of a herd mentality in their audience, I'm afraid.

[Darnell 8,478]

How does the advocacy for personal responsibility play into the Republican's unanimous vote to revert back to a system where no personal responsibility is required when it comes to one's health care? They all voted 37 times now to end the health insurance mandate before it takes effect. Not only did Republicans first think this up and proposed it as policy but it reflects the very essence of personal responsibility in the area of health care. Why are they so opposed to people taking personal responsibility for their health care cost? No man, that dog don't hunt.

Oh come on -- the only logic assigned to the vote is 'To Be Partisan' and block whatever The Kenyan gets into Congress for a Vote. That's well known, and well documented.

I feel for ya, on your position (based on what you wrote in this post) as it makes perfect sense; and all of the fellas in the Party are just not gonna vote for it.

[elmcitymaven 9,712]

Nah, he's got it in a cup and enjoys drinking it.

Savage!

Tasty!

[JohnR! 5,495]

Do you think the Republican leadership does the bidding of their base or convinces their base to do their bidding?

They do whatever suits their designs and convince their constituency that it is a great idea for them. How else do you explain the support they have in certain areas of the country where education is shunned and poverty abject? They managed to convince turkeys Xmas is a great idea!

Edited May 29, 2013 by Gegel

[GandD 5,966]

They do whatever suits their designs and convince their constituency that it is a great idea for them. How else do you explain the support they have in certain areas of the country where education is shunned and poverty abject? They managed to convince turkeys Xmas is a great idea!

Wouldn't that be thanksgiving?