State pushes to keep Trayvon Martin's past out of George Zimmerman trial

[Harsh_77 718]

from what i've read, he was a pretty normal 17 year old.

indeed, nbc is the only outlet available..

Did you have any personal contacts working on the case that shared some details not know to public?

[decocker 7,198]

Did you have any personal contacts working on the case that shared some details not know to public?

are you kidding me right now?

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

You are aware the media just blew this story for their ratings and they did edit the 911 tapes to make it more dramatic.

I'm sorry, what part did the edit? If TM was committing a crime, or about to committ one, please share with the rest of the class.

[mota bhai 2,675]

I'm sorry, what part did the edit? If TM was committing a crime, or about to committ one, please share with the rest of the class.

the part where he went all yo yo yo.

[Harsh_77 718]

are you kidding me right now?

Which means you only read and heard what media published.

Your opinion of TM being murdered and GZ guilty is based on what media published.

Edited May 14, 2013 by Harsh_77

[mota bhai 2,675]

Which means you only read and heard what media published.

Your opinion of TM being murdered and GZ guilty is based on what media published.

harsh here is just helping us all keep it real.

[decocker 7,198]

Which means you only read and heard what media published.

Your opinion of TM being murdered and GZ guilty is based on what media published.

no dear, it means you believe i've formed my opinion based solely on nbc's edited broadcast of the calls. you do know the specifics of the lawsuit you linked to? please keep up with yourself..

[decocker 7,198]

I'm sorry, what part did the edit? If TM was committing a crime, or about to committ one, please share with the rest of the class.

this, specifically, is what harsh is referring to. nbc = all media.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/06/us/florida-zimmerman-nbc-lawsuit

[SMR 368]

Here is where your problem is. Let me try to put this in a different light. We know for a fact that TM was walking home, and that GZ called the cops on him:At approximately 7:09 PM, Zimmerman called the Sanford police non-emergency number to report what he considered a suspicious person in the Twin Lakes community.Zimmerman stated, "We've had some break-ins in my neighborhood, and there's a real suspicious guy." He described an unknown male "just walking around looking about" in the rain and said, "This guy looks like he is up to no good or he is on drugs or something." Zimmerman reported that the person had his hand in his waistband and was walking around looking at homes.On the recording, Zimmerman is heard saying, "these #######, they always get away." Now, there had been some criminal activity in the neighborhood, and the culprits were black, so he made the connection. It's that simple.

And for the record, the reason I can speak on him or any other black person who has been wrongly persucuted is because any one of us can be TM, that's why POTUS said what he said. We walk in each other's shoes every day, none of us is exempt. I don't think they are out to get us, I know it's true. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_Bell_shooting_incident

And for the profliling thing, since you don't want to look it up: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_and_frisk

I get the story of the TM and GZ incident. How does that make TM's history irrelevant? We don't know what happened when they met.

So you could be TM and I couldn't? Is that what you're saying? Because you don't think white people and black people have something in common? This is an emotional argument that doesn't really have a basis in objectivity.

I'm not sure why Sean Bell is relevant here.

As far as stop and frisk, I wasn't aware that the stop and frisk program involved shooting and killing those that were stopped.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Anytime someone questions whether or not GZ is guilty they always get flamed. Unless you were there and saw what happened, freakin chill out. Like its completely impossible that TM was an aggressor in this case. Maybe GZ was profiling, maybe TM charged a scared GZ and beat the ####### out of him. No one knows. What people have is speculation based on a few known facts all bolstered by a lifetime of perceived or experienced profiling. Whatever, stop acting like you know what happened when you don't.

Okay, explain something to me. How could TM be the aggressor in this case? That's what baffles me when folks say he assaulted GZ. He was walking home minding his own business. In order for there to be aggression, there needs to be a confrontation, which happened how? Oh, that's right, GZ got out of his car and chased him on foot. Why can't anyone see this dude might have been scared and attacked out of pure fear? He was being chased by a grown man for no reason other than he looked suspicious.

[Harsh_77 718]

this, specifically, is what harsh is referring to. nbc = all media.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/06/us/florida-zimmerman-nbc-lawsuit

If you are not aware lot of news media buy material from one another.

If you believe whatever media you listen or read to give you all truth than all the glory to u.

[Karee 4,191]

Anytime someone questions whether or not GZ is guilty they always get flamed. Unless you were there and saw what happened, freakin chill out. Like its completely impossible that TM was an aggressor in this case. Maybe GZ was profiling, maybe TM charged a scared GZ and beat the ####### out of him. No one knows. What people have is speculation based on a few known facts all bolstered by a lifetime of perceived or experienced profiling. Whatever, stop acting like you know what happened when you don't.

+1000 That's why we have trials.

[decocker 7,198]

How could TM be the aggressor in this case?

exactly.

[decocker 7,198]

If you are not aware lot of news media buy material from one another.

If you believe whatever media you listen or read to give you all truth than all the glory to u.

good grief. in the very link you posted, they detail exactly what was edited, how it was edited and what parts were possibly misinterpreted.

i know rwingers have a hard time accepting that liberals do in fact have functioning brains, and that these brains are capable of mastering reading comprehension (from multiple sources, even!), free thought and, get this, deductive reasoning. shocker, right?

Edited May 14, 2013 by val erie

[GandD 5,966]

Okay, explain something to me. How could TM be the aggressor in this case? That's what baffles me when folks say he assaulted GZ. He was walking home minding his own business. In order for there to be aggression, there needs to be a confrontation, which happened how? Oh, that's right, GZ got out of his car and chased him on foot. Why can't anyone see this dude might have been scared and attacked out of pure fear? He was being chased by a grown man for no reason other than he looked suspicious.

And you might be correct. I don't really know what to think about it but I tend think both made poor choices. But I don't really know. The point was for certain peeps on here to quit acting like they know what happened when its all hearsay. People that assume TM was an angel and a victim are kidding themselves to the same extent as people who assume TM was a drugged out thug looking for trouble, The truth most likely exists somewhere in between and it leaves a bad taste in my mouth when people are condescending based about something with so many unknowns. If you think something, state it just don't be all up your own a$$ about it if you can't prove it 100%. Not directed at you BTW Marvin. I know what you think and in another thread you admitted the possibility (after being prodded a few times) that GZ might not be completely at fault.

+1000 That's why we have trials.

Yeah even then, I'm rarely convinced everything came out or was explained. OJ..........