State pushes to keep Trayvon Martin's past out of George Zimmerman trial

[Teddy B 17,252]

Edited May 14, 2013 by Teddy B

[Harsh_77 718]

So, you are saying you didn't post that?

I posted "I have difficulty with ppl on here who say GZ is guilty just coz media told them GZ was guilty and he shot a innocent kid."

Source ???

[Teddy B 17,252]

Source ???

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?s=46078b1985fb94bf83772ac169c778c2&&app=forums&module=extras&section=legends

Edited May 14, 2013 by Teddy B

[Harsh_77 718]

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?s=46078b1985fb94bf83772ac169c778c2&&app=forums&module=extras&section=legends

Nice to know they included the smiley for you to post, coz u can't post anything else other than that.

[Teddy B 17,252]

Nice to know they included the smiley for you to post, coz u can't post anything else other than that.

Posts like this is probably the reason you have problems with ppl on here.

Cheer up Bunky!

[Harsh_77 718]

Posts like this is probably the reason you have problems with ppl on here.

Cheer up Bunky!

wow you did write something.

It does not make any sense is another story.

[Teddy B 17,252]

wow you did write something.

It does not make any sense is another story.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Drug dealer, thug, welfare queen, and gangbanger don't have a specific race to me. The mental image for me is a style of dress and grooming. Welfare queens are typically fat. That's just what comes to mind. You asked.

Terrorists are also a style of dress although I would go with middle eastern decent being part of this. However, that's not really a skin color. Hair color, maybe. Some middle easterners are pretty white. That's a digression, though.

Is that first question really a question? If someone has the right to approach you, that means you have the right to assault them? As I've said a lot of times, it comes down to how the events unfolded. It's not illegal to approach someone and ask what they are doing. You seem stuck to your own view of what must have happened without any real evidence. All I'm saying is that the trial shouldn't consider some information off limits. It's all relevant, as long as it has foundation.

I say we should look at the specifics of TM's past. You talk about profiling. It's not about every black kid out there. It's about Trayvon Martin. Profiling isn't really relevant to the George Zimmerman case and the admissibility of Trayvon Martin's past behavior.

You're right that I can never live the world in your shoes, any more than you can live the world in the shoes of any other black person. You've experienced the world through one set of eyes, just as I have. If you think people are out to get you, I'm sure you'll figure out a reason to prove that they are.

Also, googling the things you suggested brings up a lot of links about the GZ case and a case in New Brunswick, GA where a baby was killed. It's not really to the point. As far as the number of teenagers "profiled, shot, and killed," it's a little difficult to define an objective standard of when someone was profiled before being shot and killed. If a teenager has dark skin, does that instantly imply he was profiled? If he's white, does that mean he wasn't profiled? If so, I think it doesn't take a genius to realize that more black and hispanic teens were profiled, shot, and killed, than white teens. If you can otherwise define what it means to profile someone, before shooting and killing them, I'd be interested to hear your definition.

Here is where your problem is. Let me try to put this in a different light. We know for a fact that TM was walking home, and that GZ called the cops on him:At approximately 7:09 PM, Zimmerman called the Sanford police non-emergency number to report what he considered a suspicious person in the Twin Lakes community.Zimmerman stated, "We've had some break-ins in my neighborhood, and there's a real suspicious guy." He described an unknown male "just walking around looking about" in the rain and said, "This guy looks like he is up to no good or he is on drugs or something." Zimmerman reported that the person had his hand in his waistband and was walking around looking at homes.On the recording, Zimmerman is heard saying, "these #######, they always get away." Now, there had been some criminal activity in the neighborhood, and the culprits were black, so he made the connection. It's that simple.

And for the record, the reason I can speak on him or any other black person who has been wrongly persucuted is because any one of us can be TM, that's why POTUS said what he said. We walk in each other's shoes every day, none of us is exempt. I don't think they are out to get us, I know it's true. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_Bell_shooting_incident

And for the profliling thing, since you don't want to look it up: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_and_frisk

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Personally, I feel marijuana stifles a person's social development, but it does not turn one into a felon, despite how many felons partake in the herb. That would be like saying alcohol forces men to beat their wives, just because many wife beaters are alcoholics.

I love you like a brother from another mother.

[Harsh_77 718]

Did you take that one?

You should than you can actually post something instead of smiley faces.

[GandD 5,966]

Anytime someone questions whether or not GZ is guilty they always get flamed. Unless you were there and saw what happened, freakin chill out. Like its completely impossible that TM was an aggressor in this case. Maybe GZ was profiling, maybe TM charged a scared GZ and beat the ####### out of him. No one knows. What people have is speculation based on a few known facts all bolstered by a lifetime of perceived or experienced profiling. Whatever, stop acting like you know what happened when you don't.

[Harsh_77 718]

Here is where your problem is. Let me try to put this in a different light. We know for a fact that TM was walking home, and that GZ called the cops on him:At approximately 7:09 PM, Zimmerman called the Sanford police non-emergency number to report what he considered a suspicious person in the Twin Lakes community.Zimmerman stated, "We've had some break-ins in my neighborhood, and there's a real suspicious guy." He described an unknown male "just walking around looking about" in the rain and said, "This guy looks like he is up to no good or he is on drugs or something." Zimmerman reported that the person had his hand in his waistband and was walking around looking at homes.On the recording, Zimmerman is heard saying, "these #######, they always get away." Now, there had been some criminal activity in the neighborhood, and the culprits were black, so he made the connection. It's that simple.

And for the record, the reason I can speak on him or any other black person who has been wrongly persucuted is because any one of us can be TM, that's why POTUS said what he said. We walk in each other's shoes every day, none of us is exempt. I don't think they are out to get us, I know it's true. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_Bell_shooting_incident

And for the profliling thing, since you don't want to look it up: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_and_frisk

You are aware the media just blew this story for their ratings and they did edit the 911 tapes to make it more dramatic.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

I was racially profiled once by these two girls in a car. I was riding my bike in the middle of summer and while stopped at an intersection, the girl passenger unrolled her window and asked, "How come you're so white?" You see, my Celtic DNA runs strong and I lack the sufficient melatonin to tan, which is practically unheard of in the hot desert of metropolitan Phoenix. I was also subjected to name-calling by the 'tan' children for being so pasty white. It was then that I realized my kindred connection to my African-American brethren who have to deal with being judged by the color of their skin. I was officially adopted as their albino brother and the rest is history.

[decocker 7,198]

According to some, he is a thug and his past is filled with drug deals, fights, and he was probably involved with the kidnappings in Cleveland.

To others, he has no past, he's an innocent angel, honor student and the son of Barack Obama.

from what i've read, he was a pretty normal 17 year old.

[decocker 7,198]

It is serious question as media did admit to doctoring the 911 calls which is what most saw.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/06/us/florida-zimmerman-nbc-lawsuit

You have not seen anything coz thats how media portrayed things to you.

It was very late in the game that media showed pics of GZ with bloody skull.

indeed, nbc is the only outlet available..