State pushes to keep Trayvon Martin's past out of George Zimmerman trial

[decocker 7,198]

I guess you cannot connect dots.

You keep on saying since TM died he is innocent. So I gave you an example if a robber gets shot would you consider robber to be innocent too?

no, he isn't innocent because he died. he's innocent because he was murdered. why you keep giving an example where the deceased has done something criminal to provoke their death is weird, except i've just read those two ridiculous articles from the conservative treehouse linked above so i do see why you may be under the impression that tm was, in fact, a criminal (proven via those alarming youtube subscriptions) who had provoked the innocent hero gz..

[Harsh_77 718]

no, he isn't innocent because he died. he's innocent because he was murdered. why you keep giving an example where the deceased has done something criminal to provoke their death is weird, except i've just read those two ridiculous articles from the conservative treehouse linked above so i do see why you may be under the impression that tm was, in fact, a criminal (proven via those alarming youtube subscriptions) who had provoked the innocent hero gz..

How did you know he was murdered?

How did you know TM did not do anything wrong that night?

I did not read the article - so not sure what is on there.

[B_J 2,752]

no, he isn't innocent because he died. he's innocent because he was murdered.

Actually, right now, he's just dead, not necessarily murdered. Remember, George Zimmerman is innocent too; at least for now.

[Harsh_77 718]

Yes, if he wasn't convicted of anything.

Innocent until proven guilty.

Why do you find this so confusing?

I have never seen a case where decease was charged with anything but that does not mean deceased was innocent.

I have difficulty with libs on here who say TM was innocent just coz he died.

I have difficulty with ppl on here who say GZ is guilty just coz media told them GZ was guilty and he shot a innocent kid.

[decocker 7,198]

How did you know he was murdered?

How did you know TM did not do anything wrong that night?

I did not read the article - so not sure what is on there.

the pertinant info that is available, mainly the 911 calls.

further, the information we have on gz before the shooting and then his actions/words since.

I have difficulty with ppl on here who say GZ is guilty just coz media told them GZ was guilty and he shot a innocent kid.

no. unlike tm - gz has an actual criminal record.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

no. unlike tm - gz has an actual criminal record.

And a gun...Thanks NRA!

[Harsh_77 718]

And a gun...Thanks NRA!

Really..... owning a gun makes one guilty.

the pertinant info that is available, mainly the 911 calls.

further, the information we have on gz before the shooting and then his actions/words since.

no. unlike tm - gz has an actual criminal record.

Where did you hear the 911 calls?

so GZ's past is to be considered for the outcome of the case but TM's past should not be taken into consideration.

Where is the level ground argument now?

[decocker 7,198]

Where did you hear the 911 calls?

so GZ's past is to be considered for the outcome of the case but TM's past should not be taken into consideration.

Where is the level ground argument now?

i hope that isn't a serious question.

tm doesn't have a past to consider. i've not seen one single thing brought to light that shows tm was violent or prone to assault.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

It's not revelant because the question everyone loves to avoid is, what was he doing that night? And why is everyone so quick to point out that Trayvon is the aggressor, when George has had two domestic violence issues and resisting arrest plus shoving a police officer?

That is why the backgrounds of both are relevant. The problem is the main stream press zeroed in on GZ past and showed TM repeatedly as a rosy cheeked 13 year old instead of what he really was.

[decocker 7,198]

That is why the backgrounds of both are relevant. The problem is the main stream press zeroed in on GZ past and showed TM repeatedly as a rosy cheeked 13 year old instead of what he really was.

and what was he really? besides 17 as opposed to 13..

[B_J 2,752]

and what was he really? besides 17 as opposed to 13..

According to some, he is a thug and his past is filled with drug deals, fights, and he was probably involved with the kidnappings in Cleveland.

To others, he has no past, he's an innocent angel, honor student and the son of Barack Obama.

[Harsh_77 718]

i hope that isn't a serious question.

tm doesn't have a past to consider. i've not seen one single thing brought to light that shows tm was violent or prone to assault.

It is serious question as media did admit to doctoring the 911 calls which is what most saw.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/06/us/florida-zimmerman-nbc-lawsuit

You have not seen anything coz thats how media portrayed things to you.

It was very late in the game that media showed pics of GZ with bloody skull.

[Teddy B 17,252]

I have difficulty with ppl on here

[Harsh_77 718]

You forgot libs in there.

Should I be surprised to see you making edits to original post?

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

I have never seen a case where decease was charged with anything but that does not mean deceased was innocent.

I have difficulty with libs on here who say TM was innocent just coz he died.

I have difficulty with ppl on here who say GZ is guilty just coz media told them GZ was guilty and he shot a innocent kid.

You forgot libs in there.

Should I be surprised to see you making edits to original post?

So, you are saying you didn't post that?