State pushes to keep Trayvon Martin's past out of George Zimmerman trial

[Teddy B 17,252]

No, I am not. These cause of the death of the victims is one and the same - someone took a gun and went looking for a confrontation. Both killed their victims at least recklessly without ever having had any justification for doing so. None of the assailants had their lives threatened. We do know that Mr. Dooley openly threatened Mr. James with a firearm. We do not know whether Mr. Zimmerman did the same to Mr. Martin. Either way, as a result of the actions of the assailants, two people are dead and shouldn't be. Neither of the assailants could or even would claim justification under Florida's "Stand Your Ground" statute which has even gotten drug dealers off the hook for killing others in deals gone bad. Thus one is now rightly convicted of manslaughter and the other faces the very real possibility of being convicted of the same before long. The fact that these cases are so similar and the fact that Mr. Dooley was convicted is what makes me fairly confident that the same fate will be visited upon Mr. Zimmerman.

Seeing this happened in your neck of the woods Big Dog, I'm curious to know if you ever saw the Rev. Al sharpton, Jesse Jackson, or any members of the black community join together to voice their outrage about Mr. Dooley? I never heard of any such action by the black community, not even on internet blogs, but I thought maybe seeing this happened in your back yard that you may have witnessed some sort of public outcry for the justice of Mr. Dooley.

[B_J 2,752]

I think Zimmerman initially saw Trayvon at some type of community center. He was standing there looking in the windows and that building had been broken into before. But, it's also very possible that Trayvon was standing there just to get out of the rain and he's just looking around like any normal person might do. It's totally innocent but I can see how Z could misjudge it.

But I think you also violated the TOS for P&R. You are supposed to stick with your initial position no matter what. Never change your mind.

[mota bhai 2,675]

... I can see how Z could misjudge it.

Oh? Very telling.............

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Seeing this happened in your neck of the woods Big Dog, I'm curious to know if you ever saw the Rev. Al sharpton, Jesse Jackson, or any members of the black community join together to voice their outrage about Mr. Dooley? I never heard of any such action by the black community, not even on internet blogs, but I thought maybe seeing this happened in your back yard that you may have witnessed some sort of public outcry for the justice of Mr. Dooley.

I asked that question earlier in this thread. Think that was what got Marvin all riled up. No, they did not protest Mr. Dooley not being arrested at the scene. No, they did not protest his being out on bail until his trial. And no, they did not protest when Mr. Dooley was set free following his conviction just because his lawyers are appealing the verdict. They can obviously appeal the verdict but Mr. Dooley ought to sit locked up while that appeal is proceeding. Again, imagine Zimmerman gets convicted and then released while his lawyers appeal the conviction. I'm sure we'll get a visit from the Rev's Al and Jackson in the sunshine state then. Of course, if the perp is black and offed a whitey, then it's okay that he gets to walk a free man even though he's a convicted killer. This may be why I don't take these clowns all that seriously.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

I think Zimmerman initially saw Trayvon at some type of community center. He was standing there looking in the windows and that building had been broken into before. But, it's also very possible that Trayvon was standing there just to get out of the rain and he's just looking around like any normal person might do. It's totally innocent but I can see how Z could misjudge it.

But I think you also violated the TOS for P&R. You are supposed to stick with your initial position no matter what. Never change your mind.

If I'm wrong I'll admit it. It's the only way I can argue effectively.

[GandD 5,966]

Of course, if the perp is black and offed a whitey, then it's okay that he gets to walk a free man even though he's a convicted killer. This may be why I don't take these clowns all that seriously.

They'd be justified. Just find one time in the white guys past where he said the N word and all is good.

[mota bhai 2,675]

I don't take these clowns all that seriously.

Very telling.

... he said the N word and all is good.

Wow! That is very telling.

[GandD 5,966]

How does Martin going after Zimmerman justify the killing? Z knew that he had a gun and failed to mention that he was a neighborhood watch officer just trying to make sure M wasn't trying to rob a house.

Z did everything he could to cause a confrontation.

GZ just got shortened to Z. Watch out TM, you're next.

Wow! That is very telling.

Literally what happened with OJ.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

33 pages. Holy #######.

[Karee 4,191]

I asked that question earlier in this thread. Think that was what got Marvin all riled up. No, they did not protest Mr. Dooley not being arrested at the scene. No, they did not protest his being out on bail until his trial. And no, they did not protest when Mr. Dooley was set free following his conviction just because his lawyers are appealing the verdict. They can obviously appeal the verdict but Mr. Dooley ought to sit locked up while that appeal is proceeding. Again, imagine Zimmerman gets convicted and then released while his lawyers appeal the conviction. I'm sure we'll get a visit from the Rev's Al and Jackson in the sunshine state then. Of course, if the perp is black and offed a whitey, then it's okay that he gets to walk a free man even though he's a convicted killer. This may be why I don't take these clowns all that seriously.

I was going to ask where Al and Jesse were in this Dooley case?

[Teddy B 17,252]

I asked that question earlier in this thread. Think that was what got Marvin all riled up. No, they did not protest Mr. Dooley not being arrested at the scene. No, they did not protest his being out on bail until his trial. And no, they did not protest when Mr. Dooley was set free following his conviction just because his lawyers are appealing the verdict. They can obviously appeal the verdict but Mr. Dooley ought to sit locked up while that appeal is proceeding. Again, imagine Zimmerman gets convicted and then released while his lawyers appeal the conviction. I'm sure we'll get a visit from the Rev's Al and Jackson in the sunshine state then. Of course, if the perp is black and offed a whitey, then it's okay that he gets to walk a free man even though he's a convicted killer. This may be why I don't take these clowns all that seriously.

Sounds pretty one sided to me, some might even say racist. And that's exactly why most of the white community does not take these clowns seriously. That's exactly why the black community has a difficult time gaining the support they need from the rest of the community as a whole.

And also curious to know, how many protests have taken place on behalf of the white community against Mr. Dooley still being free?

[GandD 5,966]

33 pages. Holy #######.

I know, I open up the ol' P&R this morning and sure enough, this one's still at the top. UGH. I'm gonna start a new thread and call it, 'What REALLY makes you mad about the Trayvon Martin case." The only rule will be you can't actually talk about any of the actual events of the case.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

Sounds pretty one sided to me, some might even say racist. And that's exactly why most of the white community does not take these clowns seriously. That's exactly why the black community has a difficult time gaining the support they need from the rest of the community as a whole.

The people who are the most outspoken for any certain group or cause that they support tend to do more harm than good.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

I know, I open up the ol' P&R this morning and sure enough, this one's still at the top. UGH. I'm gonna start a new thread and call it, 'What REALLY makes you mad about the Trayvon Martin case." The only rule will be you can't actually talk about any of the actual events of the case.

I used to participate. But there's nothing being said in these 33 pages that hasn't been said before in previous long winded threads.

Reading and making random, OT comments is much more fun.

Edited May 17, 2013 by Penny Lane

[Teddy B 17,252]

The people who are the most outspoken for any certain group or cause that they support tend to do more harm than good.

So the women who are the most outspoken about breast cancer awareness do more harm than good?