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I stopped reading at "non-lethal weapons." In this situation, that's a meaningless term invented by people with an agenda. You don't need a weapon to kill someone. By definition, a weapon makes you better at killing other people. Thus, all weapons have the potential to kill.

Now, non-lethal weapons do exist from a certain standpoint as they are designed to give the user to incapacitate an adversary without killing him or her. However, this implies the desire to not fatally hurt the other person. Unless you are certain that a potential threat has no intention of hurting you beyond the extent necessary to protect themselves (which assuming you aren't yourself aggressive means you are sure the person doesn't want to hurt you at all), the distinction between different weapon types is meaningless. And if you are sure the other person doesn't want to hurt you, it doesn't matter that they are armed, so the distinction between weapons based on lethality is still meaningless.

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Assuming everything you said is true; what, in your opinion, would be the correct charge and sentence for GZ?

I don't know enough about the law to say exactly what charge and sentence he should recieve, but here is my opinion. He should be charged with something because GZ created the very environment to which TM reacted like he did. As Teddy said using the proper channels, if GZ had used a single iota of common sense and compassion, this might not have happened. If he would have approached him from the beginning and tried to talk to him, and TM went off the rails and attacked him, it would be self defense, and you wouldn't hear a thing about it from me. But that didn't happen.

“Hate is too great a burden to bear. It injures the hater more than it injures the hated.” – Coretta Scott King

"Oppressive language does more than represent violence; it is violence; does more than represent the limits of knowledge; it limits knowledge." -Toni Morrison

He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it.

Martin Luther King, Jr.

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so really, if members of the black community perceive that they are being unfairly singled out and mistreated by the police and they study the patterns and vocalize their findings, people unaffected by profiling and police brutality don't take their claims seriously because suspected minorities criminals shouldn't be minorities criminals. sucks to be you, bad guy. interesting. so much for bootstraps.

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It's an opinion piece, nothing factual.

Ok, tell you what. I like you Teddy, that's why I am going to kill you last:)

http://newsone.com/2015110/kendrec-mcdade-shooting/

Let's compare notes, I know whites are victims of PB as well. And if I learn they are catching it just as bad as we are, I have no problem admitting I'm wrong.

“Hate is too great a burden to bear. It injures the hater more than it injures the hated.” – Coretta Scott King

"Oppressive language does more than represent violence; it is violence; does more than represent the limits of knowledge; it limits knowledge." -Toni Morrison

He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it.

Martin Luther King, Jr.

President-Obama-jpg.jpg

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Oh come on, that hasn't stopped anybody on P&R before. tongue.png

Yes but I don't like to speak on something I have little or no knowledge of. If I can read up on the difference between Murder 1 or 2, Man 1 or 2, I could probably come up with a better conclusion.

“Hate is too great a burden to bear. It injures the hater more than it injures the hated.” – Coretta Scott King

"Oppressive language does more than represent violence; it is violence; does more than represent the limits of knowledge; it limits knowledge." -Toni Morrison

He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it.

Martin Luther King, Jr.

President-Obama-jpg.jpg

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nothing factual? it's an opinion based upon compiled data. there were two studies referenced.

No, it was a pile of horse doo doo, just because studies were referenced doesn't make the article factual.

Ok, tell you what. I like you Teddy, that's why I am going to kill you last:)

http://newsone.com/2015110/kendrec-mcdade-shooting/

Let's compare notes, I know whites are victims of PB as well. And if I learn they are catching it just as bad as we are, I have no problem admitting I'm wrong.

Oh goody, I get to watch the rest of them get it first!dancin5hr.gif

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No, it was a pile of horse doo doo, just because studies were referenced doesn't make the article factual.

likewise, calling it horse doo doo doesn't mean it doesn't contain truth. so how about those 'proper channels'? i guess that was an unnecessary suggestion considering you don't believe there is an actual problem.

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likewise, calling it horse doo doo doesn't mean it doesn't contain truth. so how about those 'proper channels'? i guess that was an unnecessary suggestion considering you don't believe there is an actual problem.

What little truth it did contain, was twisted to reach a predrawn conclusion that the author is attempting to portray on his readers. I never said there wasn't a problem, I said the problem wasn't handled correctly.

I get that you don't appreciate the "bootstraps" concept, but there's a fine line between being an apologist and thinking that it's everyone's fault but yours. You cross that line quite a bit imo.

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No, it was a pile of horse doo doo, just because studies were referenced doesn't make the article factual.

Oh goody, I get to watch the rest of them get it first!dancin5hr.gif

The problem is that police brutality is an issue for everyone but we have long had the burden of it since before civil rights came into play.

Police stops in New York City have climbed steadily to more than 685,000 last year from nearly 161,000 in 2003. Only 12 percent of those stopped were arrested or ticketed. More than 85 percent were Black or Hispanic, while they make up 51 percent of the city’s population.

A Reuters analysis of more than 3 million stops from 2006 through 2011 shows that by far the densest concentrations fell in areas of public housing, home to many of the city’s poorest families and where 90 percent of residents are Black or Hispanic. Although one would expect a heavy concentration of police stops in these densely populated areas, the stop rate is disproportionate: In 2011, police stopped people in these areas at a rate more than three times higher than elsewhere in the city, the analysis found.

But it deosn't stop there, profiling doesn't just apply to the police, there's commercials: http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/04/20/acura-apologizes-over-casting-request-for-not-too-dark-black-actor/

Commerical Airlines: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/u-s-airways-tells-black-class-passengers-rid-hoodies-article-1.1316324 Honestly I think Muslims and folks of middle eastern descent might beat us in this category.

The list goes on and on, but don't worry Teddy you're still my favoriterofl.gif

“Hate is too great a burden to bear. It injures the hater more than it injures the hated.” – Coretta Scott King

"Oppressive language does more than represent violence; it is violence; does more than represent the limits of knowledge; it limits knowledge." -Toni Morrison

He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it.

Martin Luther King, Jr.

President-Obama-jpg.jpg

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What little truth it did contain, was twisted to reach a predrawn conclusion that the author is attempting to portray on his readers. I never said there wasn't a problem, I said the problem wasn't handled correctly.

I get that you don't appreciate the "bootstraps" concept, but there's a fine line between being an apologist and thinking that it's everyone's fault but yours. You cross that line quite a bit imo.

i'm all for personal responsibility. but there are social injustices that make that premise difficult for some of us to attempt, let alone achieve. there is a huge difference between accepting the world you live in as it exists for everyone and accepting the world you live in for how you personally perceive it exists. i don't believe cops should police without accountability for the lives they take, or ruin.

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Police stops in New York City have climbed steadily to more than 685,000 last year from nearly 161,000 in 2003. Only 12 percent of those stopped were arrested or ticketed. More than 85 percent were Black or Hispanic, while they make up 51 percent of the city’s population.

Wouldn't you have to consider the percentage of stops made in "problem neighborhoods?" Wouldn't there (unfortunately) be a higher percentage of latinos and blacks living in lower income areas that would account for at least some of this difference?

 

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