Violent 2 Year GC holder mother & Divorce

[james&olya 1,121]

Fathers attempting to abrogate their parental responsibilities is one of the reasons there is such a large pro-female bias in family courts these days.

What one man, ten men, a hundred or even a thousand or more do still has NO bearing on what the merits of MY case or any other individual man's case are!! A "large pro-female bias" is by its very definition prejudicial and discriminatory! It does exist but it is a violation of every man's rights to have to fight it!!!

[james&olya 1,121]

You cannot get an order of protection to then wield like a weapon at the time of your choosing. If you get it and chose to then ignore it you could not then subsequently, at the time of your choosing, try to invoke it to your strategic advantage. Most orders are specifically time limited anyway. If, by your actions, you showed that you were no longer afraid for your own safety being near this person it is unlikely any court will then lower the boom on her at a time convenient for you.

You must do what you think is best. But I urge you to reconsider your plans. You are giving up one of your most valuable tools in what may be a long custody and visitation struggle by allowing her to leave with your son back to Egypt. Think long and hard about that and get some good legal advice. Maybe it is for the best but you are voluntarily surrendering a very potent legal weapon here.

As to the argument of many that this is merely post-partum depression I disagree. It may be making things harder for her but her violent and aggressive behavior has more than just depression motivating it. File for divorce, get her out of your house, seek sole physical custody, etc. If she has depression as a cause of her behavior this will help motivate her to get the help she needs to become more the sort of wife and mother you and your child deserve.

Good Luck!!

[Villanelle 4,122]

im just trying to have enough evidence with me to take to Egypt in case i need it there to support my case. Im really trying here to give her the benefit of the doubt and trying to be hopefull. and my family said they are going to try to "take her in" and teach her indirectly. i wont lie to you i have fears from the future because i know she is stubborn and does not like to be to feel as she was wrong. but im also thinking about my son, at this young age i dont want to bounce him between day cares and the possibility of an unknown future mother in law. ....u wont beleive the amount of stress and pressure this has had on me. i cant sleep, eat or smile.....

Well I dont know anything about Egypt- the laws there- or what kind of evidence or struggle you as an American with a dual status child would encounter trying to bring the child back to the US if the child ended up in Egypt and she refused to let you bring the child back.

I can tell you- you are entering into dangerous territory trying to obtain or obtaining an OP and are seriously misinformed if you think its some kind of 'just in case' paper you can have as a back up. Its not.

Again to get one- you have to go to court. She must be served while in the US. During the hearing the issue of the childs custody is going to come up. They will also ask if you wish to include the child in the OP. Do you? Do you wish to protect the child from her as well? If so she can not come near the child. If not then the order will only protect you.

Another thing is the OP is non negotiable. This means the order is not something that you can decide when to enforce. It is always in effect for the time period it is valid. Its clearly explained in the order. This means you as the 'victim' can not (well you can) but lets say you call the defendant and say I want to talk come over. They do. They will be arrested if caught near you. It doesnt matter that you invited them. They violated it. You can not negotiate the order. YOU do not have that power. Only the court can revoke the order. If she is ever caught near you- even with your permission she goes to jail. NON NEGOTIABLE. PERIOD>

So again- obtaining this OP is going to start the ball rolling on custody issues and physical proximity issues between you, your spouse and the child.

I do understand what you are trying to do. And I do commend you for trying to cover all your bases. But you are seeking advice from friends and family and making decisions based on that and I fear you are going to make a serious mis-step that you will not be able to correct because of that.

You should seek out a consultation with a family lawyer- preferably one with immigration experience. If not consult with 2 lawyers and get some serious advice on international custody.

(If it was me- I would speak to a local family lawyer here and one in Egypt about what would happen if my wife took the child to Egypt and refused to give them back. Perhaps there are documents you can sign in advance to the childs traveling that state its a temp arrangement?)

[Harpa Timsah 13,258]

The first post said that the wife throws plates because she is mad. It never said she hurt anyone. This guy is bent on revenge, he wants to deport his wife forcibly and take their 2 month infant and wield power over her because she is an immigrant.

Now the OP is talking about kidnapping and you guys are okay with it?

[Ban Hammer 13,352]

Dont worry..1) she cant hide from me in Egypt 2) i got people and connections there that i can unleash and make all her family come begging for mercy

i think you've received enough good advice and given the above post, this thread is now closed. do not restart this thread.