My NVC Electronic Processing Road

[Darnell 8,478]

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EP timeticks at post #5 - so you might want to review that today, see whats what with the parents casefiles.

[Darnell 8,478]

Hi Darnell,

Congratulations on your Interview Date! I see you are having lots of problems with them too.. with getting interview date and administrative processing now?

Once upon a time, before the Consulate started their prep for moving to the new location (circa 5 May or before)

if an EP casefile headed to Guangzhou got a case complete - the interview date was set 3 to 5 days later. Was a special, hidden queue for this scheduling, had been going on almost 3 years , up to 5 May 2013.

After 5 May 2013, something changed. Either GUZ IV wasn't releasing enough slots, or NVC internal process changed.

re: administrative processing - IMO, there's always AP prior to interview date, but it's not really AP. The Consular staff has to:

--open the casefile

--start the final background and name checks

--read/review contents of the casefile

so this status at ceac.state.gov - I think it's wrong. Also, even being able to see status at ceac.state.gov is a new thing, as one usually would call in to the DoS Hotline, get a human, and inquire for casefile status. IMO, this is some programming error - but for it to even flip - a human at GUZ IV had to punch a button.

Tempus Fugit, and CGI Stanley gets involved, making a new web portal. For casefiles coming from NVC, EP, (CR-1/2, IR-1/2/5) this portal is almost useless. Still, must to get visa delivery coversheet there prior to interview (and bring to interview) and then can track passport delivery status after interview via this portal.

I think I was one of the lab rats at Dallas USCIS local office, as well. But that's another story, check my topics list to read about it.

[gogo 6]

Ahh, you are the teacher now =) haha..

I can check on the CEAC website for her parents, but the status is still "At NVC".. that has been going on for about a month now, so supposedly should be fast according to their last email.. "need at least 20 business days to process"..

what did you mean by squishy? =) we sent in January 7, approved March 28, NVC said they got it around June (takes 2+ months just to hand from USCIS to NVC? I don't think so..), letter around mid July to change I-864 because we put empty spaces (I even called in about that, that's not a reason to waste so much time).. so we sent in corrected I-864 July 31 (received August 1).. and now nothing so far..

Yeah, I have been reading up on the problems everyone is having after their "move".. I knew there was going to be another big delay for us.. seems like it now..

Edited August 28, 2013 by gogo

[gogo 6]

about your wiki, very nice job =) very informative..

Actually, we got our GUZ numbers a while back in June already.. are they supposed to change to GZO, or just for the recent applications? I use the GUZ number on the CEAC website and can still check status for both.. and also when I call in too.. maybe we just slipped by before the big move..

Is that "Successful Enrollment" what I am going to get from the Consulate after Case Complete at NVC, or are these cases just for K1, K3? Are you also doing family too? My category is the IR5 now.

U.S. Department of State
IMMIGRANT VISA APPLICATION

At NVC

Please follow the instructions you received from the National Visa Center (NVC) for the next step in the processing of your visa petition. If you have misplaced the instructions sent to you by the NVC or did not receive them, please contact us athttp://travel.state.gov/visa/immigrants/info/info_3177.html for additional information.

Once upon a time, before the Consulate started their prep for moving to the new location (circa 5 May or before)

if an EP casefile headed to Guangzhou got a case complete - the interview date was set 3 to 5 days later. Was a special, hidden queue for this scheduling, had been going on almost 3 years , up to 5 May 2013.

After 5 May 2013, something changed. Either GUZ IV wasn't releasing enough slots, or NVC internal process changed.

re: administrative processing - IMO, there's always AP prior to interview date, but it's not really AP. The Consular staff has to:

--open the casefile

--start the final background and name checks

--read/review contents of the casefile

so this status at ceac.state.gov - I think it's wrong. Also, even being able to see status at ceac.state.gov is a new thing, as one usually would call in to the DoS Hotline, get a human, and inquire for casefile status. IMO, this is some programming error - but for it to even flip - a human at GUZ IV had to punch a button.

Tempus Fugit, and CGI Stanley gets involved, making a new web portal. For casefiles coming from NVC, EP, (CR-1/2, IR-1/2/5) this portal is almost useless. Still, must to get visa delivery coversheet there prior to interview (and bring to interview) and then can track passport delivery status after interview via this portal.

I think I was one of the lab rats at Dallas USCIS local office, as well. But that's another story, check my topics list to read about it.

Edited August 28, 2013 by gogo

[Darnell 8,478]

for electronic processing, ya gotta OPT IN, and the casefile number changes, from GUZ to GZO.

If you still have GUZ #, is probably because no one OPT IN for the optional Electronic Processing at NVC.

Lets see - acid test - did you email off the I-864, or no? If no, ie - only using postal mail or courier, then yer in paper mode at the moment.

'Successful Enrollment' is my term, is indicator that the OPT IN for Electronic Processing was successful - the visual here is -> A GZO casefile number was issued .

re: squishy - uhm - I mean - seems a bit of a lag, if doing EP at NVC. I have to think you are not doing EP at the moment, or even during July.

Edited August 28, 2013 by Darnell

[gogo 6]

I read your wiki a lot more now.. It seems I can go through this electronic processing too.. but the thing is they already have everything.. We already paid the IOS bill, sent the DS-230 and other items too.. Is it beneficial to move to electronic processing now or just wait? Hmm.. I should have read about this and done this beforehand..

Edited August 28, 2013 by gogo

[Darnell 8,478]

beneficial? blech. For now, I say no. Why?

1. you'll have to opt in. That's 2 weeks.

2. you'll have to resend everything and it has to get detached, reviewed, and added to the casefile. Thats 4 weeks.

3. new scheduling queue for appointment. That's 2 to 10 weeks.

4. new appointment date - that's 30 days after it's set.

since yer a paper casefile - what's next for the parents:

1. interview date set - wait another 20 to 45 days.

2. casefile sent to GUZ IV - 4 days

3. casefile sit in China Customs Warehouse - 1 to 3 months.

4. casefile picked up by GUZ IV and opened - 1 to 2 weeks

5. Packet 4 sent out to parents - 1 week

6. interview date - 20 to 45 days

the timing between the two casefile types (paper vs ep) for you is almost equal at the moment. You've sent in everything already, it's a paper case.

I say just stick with the paper case, for now. FWIW, EP for Guangzhou works on CR-1, CR-2, IR-1, IR-2, IR-5. There are others, but I not pay attention.

Edited August 28, 2013 by Darnell

[gogo 6]

thanks for the estimate and help! haha wow, you are really on top of this =) Finally, you get to be with your wife soon! It's a wonderful feeling when it's all done!

beneficial? blech. For now, I say no. Why?

1. you'll have to opt in. That's 2 weeks.

2. you'll have to resend everything and it has to get detached, reviewed, and added to the casefile. Thats 4 weeks.

3. new scheduling queue for appointment. That's 2 to 10 weeks.

4. new appointment date - that's 30 days after it's set.

since yer a paper casefile - what's next for the parents:

1. interview date set - wait another 20 to 45 days.

2. casefile sent to GUZ IV - 4 days

3. casefile sit in China Customs Warehouse - 1 to 3 months.

4. casefile picked up by GUZ IV and opened - 1 to 2 weeks

5. Packet 4 sent out to parents - 1 week

6. interview date - 20 to 45 days

the timing between the two casefile types (paper vs ep) for you is almost equal at the moment. You've sent in everything already, it's a paper case.

I say just stick with the paper case, for now.

Edited August 28, 2013 by gogo

[Darnell 8,478]

Yer welcome, GoGo. You know I hold you in high-esteem, as a kick-@ss member who fought the system and won, repeatedly.

[gogo 6]

It seems things are messed up as ever since I did my case.. you had your share of problems too.. hope your journey ends soon and good luck! =) You have been a great help to everyone, including me..

Thank you.. haha, but I only have a reputation score of '2' vs your '3800+'.. you are the 'teacher', and I'm the 'student' now..

I'm not through with them yet it seems like.. This IR5 parents thing is starting to look the same..

Edited August 28, 2013 by gogo

[Darnell 8,478]

ya know, for us, it ain't over till my wife shuffles through the doorway at our house in Texas. I'm not relaxed about anything, till then.

Thank you.. haha, but I only have a reputation score of '2' vs your '3800+'.. you are the 'teacher', and I'm the 'student' now..

It does come full circle, aye? I know I'll be a student again, when my wife files for her mother.

[gogo 6]

good for you.. that's what I told my wife too.. I'm not happy until her parents get in our door.. Like you knew before, we had our problems too at the entry point at LAX.. a bit of a scare last time too.. I was sitting there thinking all my fighting was for nothing if she couldn't get in..

sure, of course I'll help you in any way when you apply for her parents =) We are all on the same team against the big blob..

hey, I can't send you a message through here.. mailbox too full?.. at least we can link up on Facebook or something.. then you know who the real "gogo" is =) haha..

Edited August 28, 2013 by gogo

[Darnell 8,478]

oh - i not do PMs here at all. Seems a problem with archiving about 2 years ago - I've asked for a full dump but that request was ignored.

So, my PM box is full. if you study my profile page, there's another website listed - you can PM me there - just look for the same avatar.

[gogo 6]

Bucky-Bob.. haha, I found it.. at least my detective skills still work.. I just looked through the forums area and signed up as gogo again =).. wow, you had a hard time at NVC.. they gave you a lot of trouble..

Edited August 28, 2013 by gogo

[Darnell 8,478]

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