I-751 RFE - not sure what else to send

[bumblebeetuna 0]

So my wife and I just received a request for evidence. Here's what we sent in originally:

• copy of wife's passport and greencard
• copy of our jointly filed 2010 Fed & state tax returns
• copy of our Visa cards showing the same account number
• copy of our health insurance cards showing a joint policy number
• two sworn affidavits by friends who are U.S. citizens, attesting to our relationship & marriage
• pictures from our wedding day, wedding dinner, various holidays, events, etc.
• copies of reservations for hotels and airlines showing both our names between the dates of our marriage & filing to remove conditions

We don't have any children, so we can't send that kind of evidence.

As for where we live, I've never had a lease for our apartment (rented to us by a kind little old lady who is a friend of a friend) but I think I could get our landlady to sign a letter saying we've lived there for 2+ years, plus I could print out copies of all the checks we've sent to her for rent. The checks only have my name on them, though, because we don't have a joint checking account. So I can't send them evidence of any joint bank accounts, because we don't have them.

I could send them a copy of my drivers license and my wife's state ID card showing our address. I could also send our joint 2011 and 2012 tax returns.

I'm not really sure what else to send to show them our finances are "commingled." We don't really have much. I have an old used car that's been paid off since before our marriage. She's never been on my car insurance because she doesn't drive. She doesn't work. I already sent them proof we have a shared credit card account. Maybe I could send them all the statements from that account for the past 2 years? I don't know how that would prove anything, though. Just all the stuff we've bought off Amazon... Maybe a letter from Visa saying she's been an authorized user on my account since 2011?

Can I just include a letter stating all of the above? I wish I had the foresight 2 years ago to make my checking account a joint account, but it's too late for that now.

I also just opened an account with Fidelity for an IRA about a month ago and put my wife as the sole beneficiary. Would a letter from Fidelity help even though the account is brand new?

Thanks in advance for any advice.

[Pitaya 2,577]

Welcome to the forum.

Please provide a coy of your RFE notice, so that we can see exactly what USCIS is asking for.

[bumblebeetuna 0]

Welcome to the forum.

Please provide a coy of your RFE notice, so that we can see exactly what USCIS is asking for.

I tried to attach the pages of the letter to this post but they look small and I don't know if you can magnify them. If not, they're in this imgur album as well - http://imgur.com/a/7E12C

Edited May 7, 2013 by bumblebeetuna

[klm9971 5]

I tried to attach the pages of the letter to this post but they look small and I don't know if you can magnify them. If not, they're in this imgur album as well - http://imgur.com/a/7E12C

We got somewhat similar (not exactly similar). USCIS asked us that please provide that we share assets and liabilities together, thats all.

[bumblebeetuna 0]

We got somewhat similar (not exactly similar). USCIS asked us that please provide that we share assets and liabilities together, thats all.

Here's what I plan on sending in as additional evidence, I hope it's enough:

- joint tax returns from '11, '12

- letter from the credit card company saying my wife has been an authorized user since 2011 (if they can send such a letter)

- letter from fidelity she's my beneficiary for my IRA (if it's possible)

- letter from the landlady saying we've lived in our apartment from Nov. '11 (date of marriage)

- copies of my drivers license, her state ID, both sides, showing our shared address

- copies of checks to the landlady that she cashed for the past 2 years

- mail showing our names at this address (only have today's junk mail and whatever else gets sent to us this week)

[caly 48]

Sorry to hear about your troubles. Every little bit helps.

Some other ideas for you if they are applicable:

1. Personal bank account transaction history -- on our ebanking portals, we can access transaction histories dating back to the to the day I opened my personal bank accounts when I first arrived in the US, we have considered printing these out and highlighting the flow of money between the two of us since we didn't have a joint account until 5 months ago. There aren't too many transactions between us, but there are some from when I've bought clothes online using our joint credit card and then transferred the money to his account to pay for it.
2. My husband is the payable-on-death beneficiary on my personal bank accounts and I can access the page that says so through my ebanking portal
3. Dentist bills -- Our dentist bills have the date of our appointments and our names on them (we always go for our bi-annual cleaning on the same day)
4. Listing each other as beneficiaries on any life insurance policies either of you may have
5. Text messaging records -- I primarily use google voice to send text messages, I recently had to use it to communicate with my in-laws because my husband was in the emergency room. I would think stuff like that shows a real and genuine relationship

Get creative and send them anything and everything you can think of! Best of luck!

[klm9971 5]

Sorry to hear about your troubles. Every little bit helps.

Some other ideas for you if they are applicable:

1. Personal bank account transaction history -- on our ebanking portals, we can access transaction histories dating back to the to the day I opened my personal bank accounts when I first arrived in the US, we have considered printing these out and highlighting the flow of money between the two of us since we didn't have a joint account until 5 months ago. There aren't too many transactions between us, but there are some from when I've bought clothes online using our joint credit card and then transferred the money to his account to pay for it.
2. My husband is the payable-on-death beneficiary on my personal bank accounts and I can access the page that says so through my ebanking portal
3. Dentist bills -- Our dentist bills have the date of our appointments and our names on them (we always go for our bi-annual cleaning on the same day)
4. Listing each other as beneficiaries on any life insurance policies either of you may have
5. Text messaging records -- I primarily use google voice to send text messages, I recently had to use it to communicate with my in-laws because my husband was in the emergency room. I would think stuff like that shows a real and genuine relationship

Get creative and send them anything and everything you can think of! Best of luck!

To add on this, I added all the phone logs between me and my wife for the past six months. I even highlighted the calls made.

[Inky 1,111]

The problem is you did not provide 2 years of evidence. They want evidence spanning 2 years of marriage. All your tax returns not just the 2010 ones, all the proof of a shared credit card, not just a photocopy of the cards, enrollment dates and usage of the shared health plan not just a photocopy of insurance cards.

You need to send a lot of evidence with this stage.

[klm9971 5]

The problem is you did not provide 2 years of evidence. They want evidence spanning 2 years of marriage. All your tax returns not just the 2010 ones, all the proof of a shared credit card, not just a photocopy of the cards, enrollment dates and usage of the shared health plan not just a photocopy of insurance cards.

You need to send a lot of evidence with this stage.

My lawyer said that anything you renewed like (Insurance, Rental, Auto Loan, Bills, etc.) is a major plus. I think they care about if husband and wife are together or not...

[Inky 1,111]

My lawyer said that anything you renewed like (Insurance, Rental, Auto Loan, Bills, etc.) is a major plus. I think they care about if husband and wife are together or not...

Pretty much yes, an example with this would be when we filed ROC we included a copy of both our drivers license and a copy of statements from every other month of our car insurance as well as the renewal statements for each year. This shows we maintained our car insurance for 2 years together under both our names PLUS we kept renewing it. It also showed the same address on the billing statements and our drivers license for the last 2 years.

[klm9971 5]

Pretty much yes, an example with this would be when we filed ROC we included a copy of both our drivers license and a copy of statements from every other month of our car insurance as well as the renewal statements for each year. This shows we maintained our car insurance for 2 years together under both our names PLUS we kept renewing it. It also showed the same address on the billing statements and our drivers license for the last 2 years.

Thats correct!

[klm9971 5]

Pretty much yes, an example with this would be when we filed ROC we included a copy of both our drivers license and a copy of statements from every other month of our car insurance as well as the renewal statements for each year. This shows we maintained our car insurance for 2 years together under both our names PLUS we kept renewing it. It also showed the same address on the billing statements and our drivers license for the last 2 years.

We paid our renewal insurance all at one. So its paid in FULL. But the primary person is my wife (US Citizen), and I am the secondary person on that. So when the renewal notice came, my wife's was on this. So if we dont have month 2 month auto bill, is that going to make a difference then?

[bumblebeetuna 0]

Here's what I plan on sending in as additional evidence, I hope it's enough:

- joint tax returns from '11, '12

- letter from the credit card company saying my wife has been an authorized user since 2011 (if they can send such a letter)

- letter from fidelity she's my beneficiary for my IRA (if it's possible)

- letter from the landlady saying we've lived in our apartment from Nov. '11 (date of marriage)

- copies of my drivers license, her state ID, both sides, showing our shared address

- copies of checks to the landlady that she cashed for the past 2 years

- mail showing our names at this address (only have today's junk mail and whatever else gets sent to us this week)

As an update to the above (by the way I got our marriage date wrong, it's Nov' 10... whoops! time flies...):

Called Chase, they're going to send me a letter saying my wife has been an authorized user on the credit card since 2010. Also, I printed out yearly statements from that account showing every purchase for '10 and '11 and monthly statements for all of 2013 so far.

I printed out the page from on my Fidelity account showing my wife as the 100% beneficiary of my IRA account.

I typed out and printed a letter for my landlady to sign, saying she's been renting our apartment to us since Nov '10 (included the line from the sworn affidavits - Pursuant to 28 U.S.C. § 1746, I declare under penalty of perjury that the foregoing is true and correct."). I also printed out copies of all the checks I could that she cashed for our rent & utilities (going back to June '11 - couldn't get any more than that).

Printed out copies of our joint tax returns from '11 and '12.

I'm not going to include any further "supplementary evidence" such as chat logs or emails between the way the RFE is worded it sounds like the really only want primary "bona fides."

I feel that this should be enough (along with copies of our state issued IDs). Well, I hope it's enough because there's really nothing else I can send!

[canuckbos 10]

As an update to the above (by the way I got our marriage date wrong, it's Nov' 10... whoops! time flies...):

Called Chase, they're going to send me a letter saying my wife has been an authorized user on the credit card since 2010. Also, I printed out yearly statements from that account showing every purchase for '10 and '11 and monthly statements for all of 2013 so far.

I printed out the page from on my Fidelity account showing my wife as the 100% beneficiary of my IRA account.

I typed out and printed a letter for my landlady to sign, saying she's been renting our apartment to us since Nov '10 (included the line from the sworn affidavits - Pursuant to 28 U.S.C. § 1746, I declare under penalty of perjury that the foregoing is true and correct."). I also printed out copies of all the checks I could that she cashed for our rent & utilities (going back to June '11 - couldn't get any more than that).

Printed out copies of our joint tax returns from '11 and '12.

I'm not going to include any further "supplementary evidence" such as chat logs or emails between the way the RFE is worded it sounds like the really only want primary "bona fides."

I feel that this should be enough (along with copies of our state issued IDs). Well, I hope it's enough because there's really nothing else I can send!

You should be okay with the additional evidence. We also sent copies of our credit card charges showing we both use the credit cards which is definitely showing co-mingling of liabilities.

Edited May 7, 2013 by canuckbos

[bumblebeetuna 0]

Update: Sent in the above (see my previous post) the first week in June and surprisingly my wife got her conditions removed and received her 10 year green card in the mail just this past Saturday. So only a 4 week turn around from us sending in the additional evidence and receiving the good news. Most of all, no interview required! Feels pretty good to have all this behind us finally!