Anything and everything.

[NikLR 13,227]

All of this is moot if you cannot sign the forms because you're not old enough. If you need parental consent to be married, perhaps you should wait until you don't? Being a legal adult has it advantages obviously.

Also please, for the love of anything you hold sacred, visit this site with a computer NOT a cell phone, smart phone, etc... at the very least use a tablet and put it on full version.

Some people are lazy but this almost takes the cake. 5 pages into it and we're still complaining that no one wrote it out like I just did. So much for DIY.

Edited April 25, 2013 by NikiR

[Robb&Ann 101]

This (visajourney) is a place where people help each other, share their stories, learn about visas. Learn what visa would be appropriate for people. Not a place where a bunch of geezers sit around on all day everyday, and give people a hard time just because they themselves have been through whatever process of their own. So some comments are unnecessary, such as "But, to get you started... We can do this one step at a time...

Step #1. READ THE GUIDES

I will give you another hint for step #2... (Rhymes with re-read the guides)... "

As well as "Girl, marriage isn't something you should be thinking about at 17. Pursue college or university."

Last time I checked, you can be married AND go to college. I plan on going to college. You people are no help, just like USCIS. All they have done is give me a run around. Telling me something here, then another worker telling me something different. So I figured maybe I could come here and try and get some answers, because when I called USCIS they told me that I needed to contact the US Dpt. of State to obtain information about a CR-1 Visa. So I called, and was told I need to look at USCIS and I quote, "read the I-130" I didn't call to be told to read some form, I called wanting to know specific information. And apparently specific, CORRECT information is unattainable here on visajourney as well as the USCIS and US Dpt.of State.

This 'geezer' decided to ask an attorney friend about this for you.

In his opinion

"The petition would probably be invalid even if the marriage is valid because a minor would not be able to be held to the conditions of the I-134 affidavit of support. Under federal law and various state laws a contract with a minor is not enforceable. Someone who has not yet reached the age of majority cannot sign a legally binding contract, some exceptions are made in the cases where legal emancipation has been processed through the court. This is because a minor can disaffirm a contract made, no matter the case. The I-134 is a binding legal contract between the federal government and the petitioner with conditions, rights and responsibilities. When a contact is disaffirmed the entire contract must be disaffirmed. in this case it would require reversal of the entire immigration process without condition or penalty, which is also not permissible under federal law."

"Simply put, no, it wouldn't be allowed."

You’re welcome for me doing the leg work for you.

[NikLR 13,227]

This 'geezer' decided to ask an attorney friend about this for you.

In his opinion

"The petition would probably be invalid even if the marriage is valid because a minor would not be able to be held to the conditions of the I-134 affidavit of support. Under federal law and various state laws a contract with a minor is not enforceable. Someone who has not yet reached the age of majority cannot sign a legally binding contract, some exceptions are made in the cases where legal emancipation has been processed through the court. This is because a minor can disaffirm a contract made, no matter the case. The I-134 is a binding legal contract between the federal government and the petitioner with conditions, rights and responsibilities. When a contact is disaffirmed the entire contract must be disaffirmed. in this case it would require reversal of the entire immigration process without condition or penalty, which is also not permissible under federal law."

"Simply put, no, it wouldn't be allowed."

You're welcome for me doing the leg work for you.

You're amazing.

Look two people have now helped out incredibly. I'm sure we'll be bashed for the effort.

[Z&A 2]

Hello all! I was wondering if anyone here can tell me anything and everything they know about the CR-1 Visa, such as what are all the required forms, what is an estimate of waiting, an estimate of prices, etc. I am 17 and not married but, it would help if I were told the information AS IF I were 17 and married because that may soon be the case and it would just help me out a lot. This may be a broad thing to discuss.. but please tell me anything you can! And FYI I know about the K-1 Visa and that is not a route we are willing to take at the moment.

1.The people who are advising you to do research are not doing so because they have went down the hard path and wanna make sure you do the same, they are just trying to make you realize the way this process goes. I read your complaint about USCIS not giving you relevant info, but (fortunately or unfortunately) this is how it goes. In order to be able to start the application process, you need to read the USCIS website, your local embassy and government info about this, research visajourney, ask friends who have been through this, make calls... even if you hire a lawyer, you will still need to know a lot in order not to get dragged around by people who want to make money off of you. Especially in your case.

2. even though I agree that it is nobody's business as to whether you will go to school or marry, you need to realize that when you make the decision of exposing your case to a forum like this, there's always a possibility that you are going to be judged. So filter out from the replies what is useful for you and ignore the rest of the comments.

3. When you are asking a question, please provide more information. It would be easier to help you if you provide you full circumstances. And don't get mad that people are not willing to just spread out everything they know in front of you. In a manner, it's like school; people here are wiling to help you with homework, but they won't let you copy theirs

Good luck.

[TLlanos 4]

And don't get mad that people are not willing to just spread out everything they know in front of you. In a manner, it's like school; people here are wiling to help you with homework, but they won't let you copy theirs

I completely agree with the quote above, especially considering the internet is a primary source of information for everyone here. If VJ isn't cutting it for you, try youtubing... or put it on google. I can almost guarantee you you will find something useful there too. But please, don't expect the information to be hand-fed to you and most importantly, REALLY RESEARCH THIS WEBSITE BEFORE YOU SAY ITS USELESS. I have found much comfort in the forums on here. ( It's probably saved my husband from calling NVC maybe an additional 20 times too )

I know I was once a teenager myself, but I can't remember being so immature.

[speedwell 224]

I just gotta say.... I love everyone here as you guys rock!

Now don't be to hard on the kids, it is apparent they will continue to shop for answers until they get the one they want...

Yeah we are kind of piling on them. But they will not listen, and they will do as they please, and they will mess up. I hope they do not mess up so badly that they ruin their chances of being together in the US. The UK won't accept them unless the Northern Irishman makes more than the average rate of pay (which is not easy, these days in Northern Ireland). Birthright Northern Irish people have dual citizenship, so Ireland may be a bit easier to get into, provided the young man documents his Irish citizenship and provides evidence of a job and a home for the couple to live in, and they register with the Gardai. The young lady will of course need to be married at 18 to avoid running afoul of the Irish law I posted about.

[nicknackzz 0]

Yeah we are kind of piling on them. But they will not listen, and they will do as they please, and they will mess up. I hope they do not mess up so badly that they ruin their chances of being together in the US. The UK won't accept them unless the Northern Irishman makes more than the average rate of pay (which is not easy, these days in Northern Ireland). Birthright Northern Irish people have dual citizenship, so Ireland may be a bit easier to get into, provided the young man documents his Irish citizenship and provides evidence of a job and a home for the couple to live in, and they register with the Gardai. The young lady will of course need to be married at 18 to avoid running afoul of the Irish law I posted about.

........Lol Garda??? Right, I am from Northern ireland, i have the irish flag as im IRISH.. Not the British flag,As that is for brits....

Also Garda?? We have the PSNI, Garda is across the border, You make things seem hard when it actually isnt, we know the laws,ages and prices for marriage... and all i see on here now is people replying with smart comments r "Trolling".. And to those f you who said about internet dating... How did you all keep in contact with your lvoed one from your home country? before obtaining a proper visa to stay? did you magically sprout a visa and suddenly leave for the US? Lol

We are matured, and we are wanting this, we DNT and ARENT looking for what answers WE WANT, we want HONEST answers as we have been running around with different answers to the same questions for a bit...

... At least we're trying to do it safely and legally at our age.. and not just marry to get into the country like SOME people out there

Before passing smartarse comments around on the internet think about when ya'll went through the process and how hard it was to do it, before giving us a hard time on it... we just want to be together without having to leave to go home like we've done, we just wanna be able to do that, ..We know we have to file 3 forms and someone in this post has commented with them.. so we have the names of them NOW dont be ignorant to us for something we're wanting and pursuing, start on your own door steps to those of you replying with smart remarks, your comments arent needed here, go post elsewhere where wanted. Thanks!!

[amykathleen2005 441]

You have been told where the guides are, what is in them and how to use them. The instructions are printed very clearly with the accompanying forms. Take your time. Actually look at them. Just like the ACT, you can't just read just the first and last sentence of the passage and then hope to answer the questions correctly. I have always said that the process is easy enough to do yourself if you are literate. If not you may want to fix that problem before tackling immigration head on. It won't go well.

However, bottom line. You are not 18, you cannot sign a legal contract with the US government. You will need to wait.

Edited April 26, 2013 by amykathleen2005

[LoveMyTico 999]

I just gotta say.... I love everyone here as you guys rock!

Now don't be to hard on the kids, it is apparent they will continue to shop for answers until they get the one they want...

Click here, and the voice says...That was easy!

I was just about to say the same thing.... you beat me to it......

Since you can be married AND go to college( jeeze.... who'd a thought?) , Im thinking she should go live with him and attend school and wait til she turns 18. Then go ahead and file... but I would guess, someone with such attitude and lack of maturity wouldn't make it that far.... just sayin''''

[Ban Hammer 13,342]

BTW you can make your own account. You do not need to post on your girlfriend's but I don't think it's against the TOS to do so.

it's not against tos, but it's discouraged as other members can be confused about who they are addressing.

[Ban Hammer 13,342]

several posts that add nothing beneficial to the topic removed.

for other members besides the op - either answer the op's questions (and without the snark) or don't post. failure to follow this direction can lead to inability to sleep, heartburn, headaches, thread bans, or other admin action like a suspension of one's account. check with your doctor if you think hitting reply without thinking things through works for you.

for the op - read. there's vast amounts of info on this site for you. having a good understanding of the process you want to go through will make questions more focused.

[MedRoni 161]

We are matured, and we are wanting this, we DNT and ARENT looking for what answers WE WANT, we want HONEST answers as we have been running around with different answers to the same questions for a bit...

we just want to be together without having to leave to go home like we've done, we just wanna be able to do that

Honest answer... under 18 - you cannot legally sign the I-130 and support documentation.

Second honesty... when you marry in the US, the husband will have to return for some period to complete the CR1/immigration process. There is no way around this. If you come here with the intent to marry and stay this is immigration fraud. You can come to visit, marry and stay the length of your visa but you will still need to go back for a while.

[Mina90 134]

........Lol Garda??? Right, I am from Northern ireland, i have the irish flag as im IRISH.. Not the British flag,As that is for brits....

Also Garda?? We have the PSNI, Garda is across the border, You make things seem hard when it actually isnt, we know the laws,ages and prices for marriage... and all i see on here now is people replying with smart comments r "Trolling".. And to those f you who said about internet dating... How did you all keep in contact with your lvoed one from your home country? before obtaining a proper visa to stay? did you magically sprout a visa and suddenly leave for the US? Lol

We are matured, and we are wanting this, we DNT and ARENT looking for what answers WE WANT, we want HONEST answers as we have been running around with different answers to the same questions for a bit...

... At least we're trying to do it safely and legally at our age.. and not just marry to get into the country like SOME people out there

Before passing smartarse comments around on the internet think about when ya'll went through the process and how hard it was to do it, before giving us a hard time on it... we just want to be together without having to leave to go home like we've done, we just wanna be able to do that, ..We know we have to file 3 forms and someone in this post has commented with them.. so we have the names of them NOW dont be ignorant to us for something we're wanting and pursuing, start on your own door steps to those of you replying with smart remarks, your comments arent needed here, go post elsewhere where wanted. Thanks!!

If you both know SO much about this process, why are you here pestering VJ members? Clearly, everyone else besides you two realize the gravity of the case. If you don't care for what information the members have gathered for you by taking the time to do so, you can LEAVE this site. For the umpteenth time, EVERYONE thus far have given you answers that are HONEST, LEGAL and CORRECT. You've been told what forms to fill out, you've been told where to gather the forms, what documentation should be provided with the forms, what steps come after those forms are filled out, how many steps are involved, you've been told about the fees, you've been told about the financial responsibility, and even why this process is not valid for you both yet (because the GF is under 18 and she cannot petition until 18, regardless of whether she can marry or not). What more do you want?

The only people passing "smartarse" comments are you both. Cut the nonsense, read what the posters have wrote-ALL YOUR ANSWERS ARE THERE. You came here for help, you've been given help. If you don't like the answers you see, GO GET A LAWYER-that would be the ADULT AND MATURE thing to do, as you both claim yourselves to be.

P.S. Good Luck and have a nice day.

Edited April 26, 2013 by Mina90

[speedwell 224]

........Lol Garda??? Right, I am from Northern ireland, i have the irish flag as im IRISH.. Not the British flag,As that is for brits....

Also Garda?? We have the PSNI, Garda is across the border, You make things seem hard when it actually isnt, we know the laws,ages and prices for marriage... and all i see on here now is people replying with smart comments r "Trolling".. And to those f you who said about internet dating... How did you all keep in contact with your lvoed one from your home country? before obtaining a proper visa to stay? did you magically sprout a visa and suddenly leave for the US? Lol

We are matured, and we are wanting this, we DNT and ARENT looking for what answers WE WANT, we want HONEST answers as we have been running around with different answers to the same questions for a bit...

... At least we're trying to do it safely and legally at our age.. and not just marry to get into the country like SOME people out there

Before passing smartarse comments around on the internet think about when ya'll went through the process and how hard it was to do it, before giving us a hard time on it... we just want to be together without having to leave to go home like we've done, we just wanna be able to do that, ..We know we have to file 3 forms and someone in this post has commented with them.. so we have the names of them NOW dont be ignorant to us for something we're wanting and pursuing, start on your own door steps to those of you replying with smart remarks, your comments arent needed here, go post elsewhere where wanted. Thanks!!

I'm the one who has researched this, and you have not. But if you are going to be so high-handed as to ignore the advice given you, it's your own fault what happens to you.

[Boggy1974 124]

I think this thread is getting old and has run it's course with the repeated pile on.

OP have been given advice. It is up to them to take it and act on it or disregard it.

I will suggest the thread closed by a mod.