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i think he should be allowed to wear the shirt, personally. but rules are rules. and when a teacher tells your shirt is against dress code - change or be changed.

as far as the arrest thing goes, that's status quo. cops arrest elementary kids anymore for next to nothing, this will only get worse as our private prison industry booms..

Or the teacher needs to accept the students have right to freedom of speech too.

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As per the article he was not violating the dress code.

per the kid's laywer..obviously if he was asked to turn the turn inside out the school had a problem with it. otherwise - wouldn't the kid and his lawyer be going after the teacher who made the call?

and maybe the shirt was causing a disruption, given the current heated debate about the topic.

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Or the teacher needs to accept the students have right to freedom of speech too.

In a classroom, there is a delicate balance of power. If the teacher gives the students too much power, the teacher will have a lot of trouble controlling the behavior of the students.

I once taught in a school for very rich and privileged kids in Mongolia. At this school, the parents were rich and powerful, so the kids were always right, and we couldn't really do anything to punish them. Parents complained I was too strict, because I didn't accept tests which the kids had cheated on. Parents also complained when I took away their kids' iPhones for using them in class -- and we are talking about 8 year olds! You could imagine the difficulty of controlling a classroom full of kids raised to think, for a lack of a better word, their poop smells like roses. The worst part was, there were a few kids in each class who actually wanted to learn, so they had to tell the other kids to shut up so that they could study. :(

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Or the teacher needs to accept the students have right to freedom of speech too.

they have freedom of speech, within dress code. and freedom of speech so long as they're not causing a disruption. is this your kid or something? i seriously doubt you'd be so adamant about a kid voicing his support via tshirt of an issue not so close to your heart..

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they have freedom of speech, within dress code. and freedom of speech so long as they're not causing a disruption. is this your kid or something? i seriously doubt you'd be so adamant about a kid voicing his support via tshirt of an issue not so close to your heart..

If he wore an Obama t shirt they would have been justified but not the cuddly NRA.

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they have freedom of speech, within dress code. and freedom of speech so long as they're not causing a disruption. is this your kid or something? i seriously doubt you'd be so adamant about a kid voicing his support via tshirt of an issue not so close to your heart..

Really... so now are you against freedom of speech too??

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Really... so now are you against freedom of speech too??

You seem to think that freedom of speech means you can say/wear what you want, regardless of environment and without consequences. It does not.

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Really... so now are you against freedom of speech too??

um. i don't know why you think freedom of speech exists within a public school setting.

here's an update to your post

still wearing the shirt.

edit to say, if that's the shirt that he was asked to turn inside out, i can see why. i was thinking like a normal white t with an nra logo - this is different.

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per the kid's laywer..obviously if he was asked to turn the turn inside out the school had a problem with it. otherwise - wouldn't the kid and his lawyer be going after the teacher who made the call?

and maybe the shirt was causing a disruption, given the current heated debate about the topic.

Him and his parents might or might not choose to have a lawyer and take it further, but something like this is very disturbing where a kid was pulled out of the line in cafeteria just for wearing a tshirt that did not violate the existing school policy.

It was just coz one teacher had a problem with it.

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Him and his parents might or might not choose to have a lawyer and take it further, but something like this is very disturbing where a kid was pulled out of the line in cafeteria just for wearing a tshirt that did not violate the existing school policy.

It was just coz one teacher had a problem with it.

oh, now it's disturbing. when it was about obama shirts the argument was different. :lol:

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um. i don't know why you think freedom of speech exists within a public school setting.

here's an update to your post

still wearing the shirt.

edit to say, if that's the shirt that he was asked to turn inside out, i can see why. i was thinking like a normal white t with an nra logo - this is different.

Thats the same article I posted, dont see anything new.

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guns = violence. so i stick with my assumption that the shirt is against school dress code.

kids in public school generally do not have open ended free speech rights, in case you're unaware..

I have guns in my house and I don't have any violence...Hmmm

 

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