Visa Denied today!!! HELP!!!!

[E and E 9]

My fiance went this morning and did everything through fingerprinting. Then he was called to number 17. First let me tell you, my fiance is 12 years younger than me and this is not my first 129F application. Back to 2008 I filed for a sucker (excuse my french) then he came in March 2009, he took off after getting his 2 years green card. I sent a certified letter to CSC that approved the AOS and one to VSC which is my jurisdiction and one to my local office (Boston). I even went to Boston office twice to let them know that I don't know his whereabouts and the copy of my divorce filing. I met my fiance now, we are so much in love. We went in Dominican Republic for the first time 10/06/11 and went again 05/15/12. That same day I arrived at the hotel, I received a call from my sister in Boston, that my mom passed away with heart condition. I couldn't find a flight back on AxA to Boston right away, I bought another ticket through Jetblue to proceed with mom's funeral arrangements. I filed for my fiance on 07/10/12 which I thought the process will go faster and VSC took forever. I thought of traveling to Haiti but I said what about if NOA2 showed up...all these crazy thinking.

To get back to the interview process today, those are the questions:

1. Who's sending for you? My fiancee so and so

2. How did you guys meet? Social network...

3. How many times that you saw your fiancee? 2 times in Dominican republic October 06, 2011 and May 05/15/12, we stayed at this hotel..... The CO said I see

4. She didn't come to see you in Haiti? No, because we chose to go exploring somewhere else(DR)

5. Have you met her family? Yes, I met her brother (first and last name) who came to Haiti in July 2012

6. Did you know that your fiancee was married twice before? Yes, and she got divorced

7. So what happened to the second marriage? The guy took off and she never know his wherabouts then she got divorced

Then the CO said "Ok Mr X(my fiance), you are not qualified, this not the end of the world. You can still get married.

I feel that this is very insulting. Does Immigration can tell me how many times to get married? Does Immigration can tell me "Hold a gun on your fiance's head to stay with you? Does Immigration can tell me or my fiance "Marry someone your own age? Does Immigration can tell you to look for someone in the states and make sure that someone has a green card?

I only filed I-129F once and the relationship went bad. I worked in my job for 23 years, I paid taxes and never been in jail or either been accused for domestic violence. Never, Never, Never so I leave any comments or suggestions from you VJers for me what's the next steps...Thank you and I am very Saddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd.

Should I go to Haiti and get married? but my fiance said to me" Baby, I am afraid if we go the I-130 process, will they look at it the same way. He said again "Baby I swear that I answered everything, all questions" He added "I feel bad that outsiders look at Haiti as a poor country that people might use other people to enter the USA but one thing, the CO deny the real lovers" That breaks my heart and my fiance said to me "What about if you come to leave with me because I know in my mind, there was no such thing and I want to prove them that Denying us can't break our relationship.

Edited April 18, 2013 by E and E

[islandgal 74]

My fiance went this morning and did everything through fingerprinting. Then he was called to number 17. First let me tell you, my fiance is 12 years younger than me and this is not my first 129F application. Back to 2008 I filed for a sucker (excuse my french) then he came in March 2009, he took off after getting his 2 years green card. I sent a certified letter to CSC that approved the AOS and one to VSC which is my jurisdiction and one to my local office (Boston). I even went to Boston office twice to let them know that I don't know his whereabouts and the copy of my divorce filing. I met my fiance now, we are so much in love. We went in Dominican Republic for the first time 10/06/11 and went again 05/15/12. That same day I arrived at the hotel, I received a call from my sister in Boston, that my mom passed away with heart condition. I couldn't find a flight back on AxA to Boston right away, I bought another ticket through Jetblue to proceed with mom's funeral arrangements. I filed for my fiance on 07/10/12 which I thought the process will go faster and VSC took forever. I thought of traveling to Haiti but I said what about if NOA2 showed up...all these crazy thinking.

To get back to the interview process today, those are the questions:

1. Who's sending for you? My fiancee so and so

2. How did you guys meet? Social network...

3. How many times that you saw your fiancee? 2 times in Dominican republic October 06, 2011 and May 05/15/12, we stayed at this hotel..... The CO said I see

4. She didn't come to see you in Haiti? No, because we chose to go exploring somewhere else(DR)

5. Have you met her family? Yes, I met her brother (first and last name) who came to Haiti in July 2012

6. Did you know that your fiancee was married twice before? Yes, and she got divorced

7. So what happened to the second marriage? The guy took off and she never know his wherabouts then she got divorced

Then the CO said "Ok Mr X(my fiance), you are not qualified, this not the end of the world. You can still get married.

I feel that this is very insulting. Does Immigration can tell me how many times to get married? Does Immigration can tell me "Hold a gun on your fiance's head to stay with you? Does Immigration can tell me or my fiance "Marry someone your own age? Does Immigration can tell you to look for someone in the states and make sure that someone has a green card?

I only filed I-129F once and the relationship went bad. I worked in my job for 23 years, I paid taxes and never been in jail or either been accused for domestic violence. Never, Never, Never so I leave any comments or suggestions from you VJers for me what's the next steps...Thank you and I am very Saddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd.

Should I go to Haiti and get married? but my fiance said to me" Baby, I am afraid if we go the I-130 process, will they look at it the same way. He said again "Baby I swear that I answered everything, all questions" He added "I feel bad that outsiders look at Haiti as a poor country that people might use other people to enter the USA but one thing, the CO deny the real lovers" That breaks my heart and my fiance said to me "What about if you come to leave with me because I know in my mind, there was no such thing and I want to prove them that Denying us can't break our relationship.

Sorry to hear about your denial... Unless you know the real reason behind the denial, getting married and filing I130 may not make a difference. It may, but no-one knows for sure.

[indiana_sweetie 120]

Then the CO said "Ok Mr X(my fiance), you are not qualified, this not the end of the world. You can still get married.

Should I go to Haiti and get married? but my fiance said to me" Baby, I am afraid if we go the I-130 process, will they look at it the same way.

First of all, I am sorry this happened to you and your fiance. But I think the CO is suggesting the I-130 process is the better route. What is your fiance trying to say when he resists the I-130 process?

[TazzingOut 3]

Okie. I will tell you domething that you mighta not knew but first let me ask you. Why didn't you just marry your fiancee since you trust him

[mtcmk1 37]

Now is not the time to get married because it's too soon and you will probably get denied. Would you be able to live in Haiti for a while. Like for 6 months at a time for a period of 1.5-2years? Strengthen your relationship? I know it sounds like a long time, but you'll be together then... After a while, you can get married and file. One thing I know for sure was a red flag was the fact that you never came to Haiti. While this may not be a problem for other countries, the COs in Haiti take it very seriously that you visit each other in Haiti. Keep us posted!

He can also contact the Embassy in Port-au-Prince to get the real reason for the denial before you decide on anything else.

[Anvi 5]

Now is not the time to get married because it's too soon and you will probably get denied. Would you be able to live in Haiti for a while. Like for 6 months at a time for a period of 1.5-2years? Strengthen your relationship? I know it sounds like a long time, but you'll be together then... After a while, you can get married and file. One thing I know for sure was a red flag was the fact that you never came to Haiti. While this may not be a problem for other countries, the COs in Haiti take it very seriously that you visit each other in Haiti. Keep us posted!

He can also contact the Embassy in Port-au-Prince to get the real reason for the denial before you decide on anything else.

I am sorry to hear that. You should get marry and file I-130. That what I can think of.

[E and E 9]

Okie. I will tell you domething that you mighta not knew but first let me ask you. Why didn't you just marry your fiancee since you trust him

Because I thought I-129F was faster until the long waiting of VSC, I said to myself, I should have done the I-130

[E and E 9]

Now is not the time to get married because it's too soon and you will probably get denied. Would you be able to live in Haiti for a while. Like for 6 months at a time for a period of 1.5-2years? Strengthen your relationship? I know it sounds like a long time, but you'll be together then... After a while, you can get married and file. One thing I know for sure was a red flag was the fact that you never came to Haiti. While this may not be a problem for other countries, the COs in Haiti take it very seriously that you visit each other in Haiti. Keep us posted!

He can also contact the Embassy in Port-au-Prince to get the real reason for the denial before you decide on anything else.

Thanks for your advice as always but unfortunately I can't live in Haiti right now because I have my son who is 12 years old and is in school. Do you think I can appeal it? This is tearing my heart, I don't know if I should scream.

I am sorry to hear that. You should get marry and file I-130. That what I can think of.

Thanks for the advice

[E and E 9]

First of all, I am sorry this happened to you and your fiance. But I think the CO is suggesting the I-130 process is the better route. What is your fiance trying to say when he resists the I-130 process?

He doesn't resist the I-130 process, he just feels another long wait for us to be together.

[lisap 10]

Sorry to hear about your denial... Unless you know the real reason behind the denial, getting married and filing I130 may not make a difference. It may, but no-one knows for sure.

Edited April 18, 2013 by lisap

[TazzingOut 3]

Okie. What you need to do firstly is to stay strong then start organizing everything and sorting out facts. I will try from my end

They will be looking at these

1-you been married twice and you husband has no problem

2-you applied for the same tupe of visa before and you n you ex husband got divorced so she will be yhinking your getting paied for that

3-age difference

4- you never been to haiti

5-poor country AS THEY SEE IT

6- you didn't stay together for ao long

7- i think you didn't meet his family

8-how long did you know him before applying? Do you have a strong proof of that or not? If not for a long time then that looks bad

9- you need to know that they denied you as a TEST to check if its a real relationship of not and she was clearing his options for him when she told him to marry someone else so if it wasn't a real relationship he wouldn't waste his time and do so.

10- CO's studies psychology and they analyze everything very very well.

11- put your self i. The CO officers place and look at the proofs he/she had from you and failu judge your self to see if she should beleive you or not

12- be very organized and proof full.

If you have any more questions. Don't hesitate and don't forget. Thats just a test.

[lisap 10]

My fiance went this morning and did everything through fingerprinting. Then he was called to number 17. First let me tell you, my fiance is 12 years younger than me and this is not my first 129F application. Back to 2008 I filed for a sucker (excuse my french) then he came in March 2009, he took off after getting his 2 years green card. I sent a certified letter to CSC that approved the AOS and one to VSC which is my jurisdiction and one to my local office (Boston). I even went to Boston office twice to let them know that I don't know his whereabouts and the copy of my divorce filing. I met my fiance now, we are so much in love. We went in Dominican Republic for the first time 10/06/11 and went again 05/15/12. That same day I arrived at the hotel, I received a call from my sister in Boston, that my mom passed away with heart condition. I couldn't find a flight back on AxA to Boston right away, I bought another ticket through Jetblue to proceed with mom's funeral arrangements. I filed for my fiance on 07/10/12 which I thought the process will go faster and VSC took forever. I thought of traveling to Haiti but I said what about if NOA2 showed up...all these crazy thinking.

To get back to the interview process today, those are the questions:

1. Who's sending for you? My fiancee so and so

2. How did you guys meet? Social network...

3. How many times that you saw your fiancee? 2 times in Dominican republic October 06, 2011 and May 05/15/12, we stayed at this hotel..... The CO said I see

4. She didn't come to see you in Haiti? No, because we chose to go exploring somewhere else(DR)

5. Have you met her family? Yes, I met her brother (first and last name) who came to Haiti in July 2012

6. Did you know that your fiancee was married twice before? Yes, and she got divorced

7. So what happened to the second marriage? The guy took off and she never know his wherabouts then she got divorced

Then the CO said "Ok Mr X(my fiance), you are not qualified, this not the end of the world. You can still get married.

I feel that this is very insulting. Does Immigration can tell me how many times to get married? Does Immigration can tell me "Hold a gun on your fiance's head to stay with you? Does Immigration can tell me or my fiance "Marry someone your own age? Does Immigration can tell you to look for someone in the states and make sure that someone has a green card?

I only filed I-129F once and the relationship went bad. I worked in my job for 23 years, I paid taxes and never been in jail or either been accused for domestic violence. Never, Never, Never so I leave any comments or suggestions from you VJers for me what's the next steps...Thank you and I am very Saddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd.

Should I go to Haiti and get married? but my fiance said to me" Baby, I am afraid if we go the I-130 process, will they look at it the same way. He said again "Baby I swear that I answered everything, all questions" He added "I feel bad that outsiders look at Haiti as a poor country that people might use other people to enter the USA but one thing, the CO deny the real lovers" That breaks my heart and my fiance said to me "What about if you come to leave with me because I know in my mind, there was no such thing and I want to prove them that Denying us can't break our relationship.

Sorry to hear he got denied, but the CO was correct its not the end of the world, my friend's husband was denied the I-29f year before last and they went a head and got married last december and file the cr1 he just came here to the states in feburary this year and she only visited him twice so yes go ahead and get married and file the i130...

[E and E 9]

Sorry to hear he got denied, but the CO was correct its not the end of the world, my friend's husband was denied the I-29f year before last and they went a head and got married last december and file the cr1 he just came here to the states in feburary this year and she only visited him twice so yes go ahead and get married and file the i130...

Thanks a lot for the encouragement...

[Sarah Elle-Même 660]

First of all, I am sorry this happened to you and your fiance. But I think the CO is suggesting the I-130 process is the better route. What is your fiance trying to say when he resists the I-130 process?

What he's probably saying is that if they just get married and refile that likely they will get the same result. I don't think her fiance is resisting getting married at all. It's a very valid concern considering they probably didn't believe this couple's relationship is bonafide and that's why they refused to grant the visa. The petitioner's history of petitioning a previous immigrant spouse didn't help either.

OP - as others have said, take some time to process all the information you can. You can try calling the embassy but they probably won't give you any solid answers. File a Freedom of Information Act request with USCIS for the Consular Officer's notes and your returned case file. You can look up how on the USCIS website. This will take some time to process but it could give you helpful information. Go back over all the documents you and your fiance presented in the case. Try to look at it as an outside observer. I understand you can't move to be with your fiance in Haiti because you have a child to care for, but visiting more often and strengthening your ties to each other can only help when you decide how to proceed. Plenty of people have overcome this obstacle so don't despair. There is still hope. Best of luck to you.

Edited April 18, 2013 by Sarah and Adnan

[lisap 10]

Thanks a lot for the encouragement...

No problem dear, just go to haiti do the wedding make sure you take lots of pictures and keep everything that will show you guys relationship....