green card deny

[hyuna 0]

im sorry im having a hard time to understand english and my english is not good too so its really hard to get what you really mean if i didnt explain it correctly just say it so that maybe sometime i will understand what you trying to say...thanks

[SingleDad2usc 71]

Prenup may not be bullet proof, but it's up to your attorney

[AnotherLostSoul 167]

Something tells me that you, OP, would be way better off if you went home. You can start a "new life" back at home too. All this pain, I really don't see how it is still "so good" for you to stay. If I were you I would go home, see the family and find someone normal. The way you bend in will just cause you to fall in a similar position later on. There are many beeps out there who are exclusively looking for someone as miserable as you are. You would be safest at home, and maybe actually be able to build a good normal family life. But this is my opinion...neither an advice, nor trying to be offensive. Anyway, if you think this whole thing worth all the pain and troubles and crazy processes, go ahead and stick with it. But I really cannot see why this worth so much for you...oh well, good luck whatever you do!

[SingleDad2usc 71]

OP is well adjusted. The above advice is very-very strange: OP's home is here now. There are no guarantees in any venture; but it doesn't mean young people who made it this far, should be returning to their backward cocoons. Care to cite an example of a happy regression?

[anajnic 87]

OP is well adjusted. The above advice is very-very strange: OP's home is here now. There are no guarantees in any venture; but it doesn't mean young people who made it this far, should be returning to their backward cocoons. Care to cite an example of a happy regression?

Exactly..I support this comment

Something tells me that you, OP, would be way better off if you went home. You can start a "new life" back at home too. All this pain, I really don't see how it is still "so good" for you to stay. If I were you I would go home, see the family and find someone normal. The way you bend in will just cause you to fall in a similar position later on. There are many beeps out there who are exclusively looking for someone as miserable as you are. You would be safest at home, and maybe actually be able to build a good normal family life. But this is my opinion...neither an advice, nor trying to be offensive. Anyway, if you think this whole thing worth all the pain and troubles and crazy processes, go ahead and stick with it. But I really cannot see why this worth so much for you...oh well, good luck whatever you do

Ridiculous.. She doesnt need good luck.She got God

[InHisTime 110]

oh no eheheh but thank you i just making my self to be more stronger of what i have been through... its really hard and lots of people dont really believe and they are more scared of whats gonna happen more than me because they thought that i couldnt do this because they could really see how scared am i and how i been through to my husband's hands but i did try things now and just think positive and that possible happen because im thinking why did others just live with their husband like 1 week after marriage or like how many months and then leave him even their husbands are treating them well or kind to them but still they got out of the situation they even got to be a us citizen and a green card holder why not me that i was abuse by rape, not enough food to eat. cant go out cant talk to anyone cant go walk or go anywhere just lock me up and other things he did to me but i still hoping that he would change but he didnt so even though i didnt know about the outside world when i left him after 2 years marriage its just that my entire body and heart saying that you need to get out of here or else you will die pretty soon if your thinking that you so much inlove with this man you married just get over it and get a life because i had enough i just couldnt take it anymore... you see if he would try to fight me by going in court or any hearing he dont have anything to say about me because i been a good wife to him and married in good faith i just been slave to him thats why i was look so weak in his eyes because i did everything what he wants me to do because i wanted him to be happy to have me but no didnt work.... so now i am just lucky that immigration is still kind to me and give me opportunity to still stay here and work my papers as i could.. you see my papers been process so quick and that is my thankful and just pray and pray for it that it will be done soon and my prayers been answered cause its smoothly happen and not even making me so difficult and i am happy for that because i did pray that all the time...

This is truly a testimony that God cares.....it's gonna be alright in the end! Keep praying and trusting God and always do the right thing. Let us know the good news / outcomes soon ! God bless you more.

[Jessy_L 7]

Brian from Ukraine,

the system when one person have so much power over the another is evil. It attracts all kind of control freaks who wants to mistreat the person, and whenever person can say anything, the abuser pull the stick over nose, saying either do as I say, or you will leave. No wonder one of the extreme cruelty signs is using the deportation threats.

Saying that all the people who were mistreated are fraud is just very blind sighted and not very smart of you.

[Cathi 5,783]

this thread gives me a headache, 7 pages of someone attempting VAWA only after she lied to USCIS, and not one single comma or period in any of her posts...7 pages of nonsensical run on sentences. Now she says a deity will help her...My dear, God does not give out green cards, USCIS does

[xgrnberet1 19]

Who is deity? u have problem of someone prayed to God ? do you pray? and if you do , who????????????????? there are nothing wrong with people having faith !!!!!

[VanessaTony 3,567]

Who is deity? u have problem of someone prayed to God ? do you pray? and if you do , who????????????????? there are nothing wrong with people having faith !!!!!

A deity is a God. It doesn't discriminate against which God you're praying to or what religion you're a part of, whereas the term God does. it's not an insult to use the term deity.

There is nothing wrong with someone having faith, but blind faith is of course a problem. Have you never heard the saying "God helps those who help themselves"? You need to actually put in effort. People pray and hope for stuff to happen, sit around waiting for it, and then when it doesn't happen, say "well it wasn't God's will"... instead of thinking that God would have directed them down a path, or to a person, or to find a way... People actually need to do the work themselves and believe, if they believe, that God will work THROUGH them and help them. God can't open a door if you don't reach out and turn the handle, but he can help you.

[Brian1967## 119]

Jesse...the comment was not ment to say all immigrant spouses are frauds, they are not. But there is large amount of fraud in the system. There comes a time when like in my situation where you find your wife, has lied, cheated, stolen, and abused your child and you call it abuse when all this happens and USC tells the person ....I am going to do all I can to see you are kicked out of this country, I am sorry if I offended you and anyone else on this that was not really the point I was referring to the individual case that was all. See I think some immigrant spouses take huge advantage of the system, and this person does not care who they hurt and what price is paid in order to get a card. I have seen the news where the immigrant spouse is some victim and the USC gets prison, when is the last time you saw the news or read an article where the USC is the victim, you do not. Jesse I was a victim of fraud and you need to see USC, the men and women, I cry, I bleed, I hurt, just like the immigrants that scam. But it hurts when it happens. Sorry if emotions show,

Edited June 16, 2013 by Brian1967##

[hyuna 0]

this thread gives me a headache, 7 pages of someone attempting VAWA only after she lied to USCIS, and not one single comma or period in any of her posts...7 pages of nonsensical run on sentences. Now she says a deity will help her...My dear, God does not give out green cards, USCIS does

if my topic gives you head ache you can just ignore it and not read it no more its your choice here is what i will tell you why the judge of the immigration giving me a chance even i lied to the immigration interview that time i only lied about me and my husband have a wonderful marriage, and that we dont have legal separated and that we still married thats i only lied to the interview because i dont know how to tell them about my marriage life and i dont even know about the laws here in us about i can tell them whats really goin on and i never even know that ..so the truth is we still married but my husband is the one calling there that i was just lying because he was filing a divorce already and that i have left him because he think i just used him for papers to stay here and he is the one telling to the immigration that our marriage is fake or fraud.... to make you understand my husband is lying to the immigration that he did file a divorce to me already so he want them to stop process my papers and he was saying i just using him and now the judge of the immigration did give me a chance to bring evidence if i why they would still give me the green card that my husband did process but i didnt fight for it i just tell to the immigration that i would just try to get my own papers as i could cause i dont want my husband think that i was just using him for that and if he was thinking that i am that kind of a woman why would i leave him without any papers in my hands not even clothes or money or anything i just leave and tell him that i couldnt take your attitude anymore that he change so much like not the person i have known before... if his telling its a fake marriage why would he tell to the divorce paper that he give to me that it was a good faith and that i never even ask him any money or property or not even own anything since we got married i didnt even ask him any:) see its true i didnt ask him any things since he is my boyfriend fiance till be my husband we just been together and i just serve him as my husband...

people here whos reading my topic and comments thanks you guyz... i know you wouldnt believe that it would be solve or anything because you were thinking only that once i have lied to the immigration they would not give me a chance to stay here or what so ever and that god wouldnt really a big help or anything just because i have been praying that it would be ok .... sorry to disappoint you people my papers are almost done so far... talking to god and other people who would understand your feelings and what you have been through is helping me so much why because i have been able to tell and talk which i never been doing that in my life when i was with my husband because of my husband rules that i have been followed to try not to make him angry or mad at me but its different now i have been able to believe again in my self make it more stronger and give courage to all womens or men who been thinking that they are so weak and that they couldnt do the things that is been hard for them..to fight for it because they are scared that what if they would fail what if they are just so weak and couldnt do things right ..... people you are so wrong calling GOD and talk to him when you were alone is good thing rather than be so depress and thinking that your a loser.... and talking to other people that you feel comfortable with to let out your feelings that would make you even better.... i have learned those things when i am not with my husband anymore i couldnt even imagine that i would be stronger than he thought. i never even imagine that i have a right as a person for my own or to give time and love my self rather than look so depress just because of him manipulate me. for how many years and now i have learned how to start over and believe more of yourself that you can do things that you never even expecting that you could:)

[hyuna 0]

Jesse...the comment was not ment to say all immigrant spouses are frauds, they are not. But there is large amount of fraud in the system. There comes a time when like in my situation where you find your wife, has lied, cheated, stolen, and abused your child and you call it abuse when all this happens and USC tells the person ....I am going to do all I can to see you are kicked out of this country, I am sorry if I offended you and anyone else on this that was not really the point I was referring to the individual case that was all. See I think some immigrant spouses take huge advantage of the system, and this person does not care who they hurt and what price is paid in order to get a card. I have seen the news where the immigrant spouse is some victim and the USC gets prison, when is the last time you saw the news or read an article where the USC is the victim, you do not. Jesse I was a victim of fraud and you need to see USC, the men and women, I cry, I bleed, I hurt, just like the immigrants that scam. But it hurts when it happens. Sorry if emotions show,

brian i understand your situation before and what you have been through but we are very different because me i have never been thinking that in my next chapter of my life to be marriage would end up like this because even though i married to young i have never even know what is a fraud means because in my mind and heart before i feel so proud telling to the people that i have met the person to be part of my life how lucky i am to have met a person to be with me forever to love me truly.. but i never even imagine that my marriage life that i have been dreaming to be like a fantasy is not true when i come here thats how i learned that even though i have been with him for 2 years before he decided to bring me here in us and got married i never thought that the person i have known back then is not really his true personality cause when i got here thats where i seen his true self. i been always so down in my self always thinking that maybe i am not really good wife because i did everything i do what he wants cause i want him to be happy i thought its my fault why he is like that totally a different person when i came here.. i am his second wife and he is my first man of my life my first boyfriend my first fiancee and my husband i thought we will have a happy marriage life but it didnt work out like a fairy tale.... its hard for me to leave him because i love his family and they love me because they said i am a very sweet person... its hard for me to think that they would hate me because i left their son my husband but when the time i was like thinking i have enough and when my family says that please give respect of your self and give love and i was like omg i couldnt believe that i forgot how to take care of my self because i was so focus how to serve and make my husband so happy to have me and be proud of me but ididnt even realize that my self is dying... now that i have been asking my husband to just let me go and when he said that he dont want other people to have me... before i was so scared and dont know if i would rather kill my self so that i would be free of being fear to him but i forgot that i have GOD who is more powerful and need to be fear.... i was awake and say i think i need to start loving my self and believe more how to fight for my rights.... and not just stay there in his hand by abuse and wait till i die....

so brian not all people who is from other countries married to here in us just to get papers or what so ever here... there are people who got here thinking that they could even start a better life with their new family and husband because they thought that they found their true love....but sometimes others are lucky to really find one but others too are being suffered of their abuse partners because they thought that they couldnt do things by their own feet because their abuse partners holding their neck and using their own powers to manipulate that person to be so weak

[belinda63 3,041]

So you are currently in removal proceedings? The way you speak of talking to an immigration judge gives me that indication. And what papers have you filed to secure your green card? You realize you are going to have a rather hard time attempting to obtain a VAWA claim as you were told before. You have no proof of a real marriage, you moved out when he filed the papers for your green card, you lied to USCIS and told them you were still in a marriage with your spouse even though you had left him months previously, and the only proof of abuse you have is some affidavits from some friends. Not real good evidence.

So what are you going to do?

[Hypnos 6,578]

Without clear and convincing evidence of abuse then any VAWA case is unlikely to succeed. This is especially true when coupled with the material misrepresentation which the OP has already stated that they have committed. USCIS may believe that you are willing to do absolutely anything to stay in the US, including inventing false claims of abuse against your husband.