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They will have voices when what they say matters to those running the country they live in. When they become part of running the country. When they become part of the franchise. That is still years, possibly decades, away. Here, too, by the way.

While I am not fond of religion in general, I have never denounced your religion. Where exactly is FEMEN claiming to speak for Muslim women? They speak out for gender equality and they do criticize certain parts of the world more than others because there, gender equality simply doesn't exist. That is a point that these women are free to make in any way they see fit. Even if they are wrong, they still should be free to stage their protests. That's what freedom is.

I never accused you of doing such a thing. I don't believe you are in any way a bigot. I was talking about the Western media, and I thought I made that clear.

Read FEMEN's website and you will see what they say about them speaking "for" Muslim women, and you will also see a bunch of Islamophobic #######. This is what Muslim women object to.

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Ok lI am all ears....

Just read the posts. Muslim women are speaking to you in this very thread, and I'm also linking articles and comments written by Muslim women. (There were some more in the original thread which I can retrieve if you want.)

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شارع النجمة في بيت لحم

Too bad what happened to a once thriving VJ but hardly a surprise

al Nakba 1948-2015
66 years of forced exile and dispossession


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More comments from Muslim women - and note that even the woman who is supposedly at the very center of FEMEN's protests, Amina Tyler, says she was offended by the abuse of Muslim symbols and the tactics of insulting all Muslims:

Again, freedom of expression is not always pleasing. And despite Amina Tyler's rejection of the burning of religious symbols by FEMEN, she also said this:

As to whether she supports Femen "whatever happens", she says: “Until I’m 80-years-old. Because they are true feminists.”
Read FEMEN's website

I tried. But my Russian or Ukrainian or whatever it is that the site is written in is a bit rusty. :blush:

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Apparently FEMEN flashed the Tunisian president in Paris yesterday. (Cannot link source due to one pic that is not sufficiently blurred but it's on RT News.)

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Too bad what happened to a once thriving VJ but hardly a surprise

al Nakba 1948-2015
66 years of forced exile and dispossession


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Of course they didn't, they are brainwashed since birth to consider their status normal.


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Again, freedom of expression is not always pleasing. And despite Amina Tyler's rejection of the burning of religious symbols by FEMEN, she also said this:

Amina Tyler supports FEMEN, no doubt about it - apparently she was trying to start her own FEMEN group in Tunisia.

But do Muslim women in general support this type of protest ? :no: And even Amina says she was offended by the misuse of Muslim religious symbols like burning the flag.

I tried. But my Russian or Ukrainian or whatever it is that the site is written in is a bit rusty. :blush:

They have a button for English, because I used it to quote their Islamophobia page on the original thread (can't remember if there's a button for German, but for sure there's a somewhat fluent English translation on their site.)

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شارع النجمة في بيت لحم

Too bad what happened to a once thriving VJ but hardly a surprise

al Nakba 1948-2015
66 years of forced exile and dispossession


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But do Muslim women in general support this type of protest ? :no:

I am sure that many or most do not. But why should that matter? Again, FEMEN does not require the approval of Muslim or any other group of women.

They have a button for English, because I used it to quote their Islamophobia page on the original thread (can't remember if there's a button for German, but for sure there's a somewhat fluent English translation on their site.)

Oh, the EN button. It escaped me somehow - don't quite know why. :whistle:

Anyway, all I can find is this - don't see any Islamophobia there (soory, not allowed to link because that wouldn't be okay with VJ's morality police).

  • FEMEN - is a global women's movement
  • FEMEN - is the name of the scandal famous organization of topless women activists, who defend with their breast sexual and social equality in the world.
  • Activists of FEMEN - are morally and physically fit soldiers, who every day make civil actions of the high degree of difficulty and provocativity. FEMEN is the founder of a new wave of feminism of the third millennium and has followers all over the world. The symbol of the organization - a wreath of flowers that adorns the head of bold women on all five continents.
  • FEMEN - is the name of the new woman
  • FEMEN - is the new Amazons, capable to undermine the foundations of the patriarchal world by their intellect, sex, agility, make disorder, bring neurosis and panic to the men's world.
  • FEMEN – is the ability to feel the problems of the world, beat it with the naked truth and bare nerve. FEMEN – is a hot boobs, a cool head and clean hands. Be FEMEN - means to mobilize every cell of your body on a relentless struggle against centuries of slavery of women!
  • FEMEN – is an ideology of SEXTREMISM.
  • FEMEN - is a new ideology of the women's sexual protest presented by extreme topless campaigns of direct action . FEMEN – is sextremism serving to protect women's rights, democracy watchdogs attacking patriarchy, in all its forms: the dictatorship, the church, the sex industry.

The magic of the body get your interested, the courage of the act make you want to riot.

Come out, Go topless and Win!

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I am sure that many or most do not. But why should that matter? Again, FEMEN does not require the approval of Muslim or any other group of women.

Sorry but... huh ? Nobody is saying that FEMEN has to get "approval" for their nonsense. But neither do Muslim women have to get approval for pointing out that FEMEN doesn't speak for them, and in fact offends them, criticize their tactics, and disassociate themselves from it.

In response, FEMEN fans (as quoted in the OP) insult them with childishness and bigotry a la Peter Pan.

Oh, the EN button. It escaped me somehow - don't quite know why. :whistle:

Anyway, all I can find is this - don't see any Islamophobia there (soory, not allowed to link because that wouldn't be okay with VJ's morality police).

Give me a moment and I will get it for you.

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شارع النجمة في بيت لحم

Too bad what happened to a once thriving VJ but hardly a surprise

al Nakba 1948-2015
66 years of forced exile and dispossession


Copyright © 2015 by PalestineMyHeart. Original essays, comments by and personal photographs taken by PalestineMyHeart are the exclusive intellectual property of PalestineMyHeart and may not be reused, reposted, or republished anywhere in any manner without express written permission from PalestineMyHeart.

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Amina’s act of civil disobedience has brought down upon her the lethal hatred of islamists inhuman beasts for whom killing a woman is more natural than recognizing her right to do as she pleases with her own body. For them, we now see, the love of freedom is the most dangerous kind of psychiatric illness, one demanding radical forced treatment in the spirit of fascist punitive medicine. The “Arab Spring,” for the women of North Africa, has turned out to be a frigid sharia winter … Stoning and flogging, kidnapping and rape, forced psychiatric treatment and other sorts of physical and psychological torture are what the new Sharia Caliphate has in store for women.

It's in the gallery section.

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شارع النجمة في بيت لحم

Too bad what happened to a once thriving VJ but hardly a surprise

al Nakba 1948-2015
66 years of forced exile and dispossession


Copyright © 2015 by PalestineMyHeart. Original essays, comments by and personal photographs taken by PalestineMyHeart are the exclusive intellectual property of PalestineMyHeart and may not be reused, reposted, or republished anywhere in any manner without express written permission from PalestineMyHeart.

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I'm told that bhurkhas make skanking a breeze!

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Sorry but... huh? Nobody is saying that FEMEN has to get "approval" for their nonsense. But neither do Muslim women have to get approval for pointing out that FEMEN doesn't speak for them, and in fact offends them, criticize their tactics, and disassociate themselves from it.

True. Muslim women may express their criticism if they wish. I ain't got no problem with that.

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True. Muslim women may express their criticism if they wish. I ain't got no problem with that.

Yayyy ! And that just happens to be the subject of this thread :D

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شارع النجمة في بيت لحم

Too bad what happened to a once thriving VJ but hardly a surprise

al Nakba 1948-2015
66 years of forced exile and dispossession


Copyright © 2015 by PalestineMyHeart. Original essays, comments by and personal photographs taken by PalestineMyHeart are the exclusive intellectual property of PalestineMyHeart and may not be reused, reposted, or republished anywhere in any manner without express written permission from PalestineMyHeart.

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I'm told that bhurkhas make skanking a breeze!

And with that I crank up the Bob and get busy with things I need to do today.... have fun y'all :D

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شارع النجمة في بيت لحم

Too bad what happened to a once thriving VJ but hardly a surprise

al Nakba 1948-2015
66 years of forced exile and dispossession


Copyright © 2015 by PalestineMyHeart. Original essays, comments by and personal photographs taken by PalestineMyHeart are the exclusive intellectual property of PalestineMyHeart and may not be reused, reposted, or republished anywhere in any manner without express written permission from PalestineMyHeart.

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It's in the gallery section.

Well, Amina Tyler did receive death threats and those most certainly did come from somewhere inside the circle of radical religious nuts. An Egypt FEMEN activist also received death threats, was kidnapped and subsequently sought asylum in Sweden. I think I've read that she was since expelled from her country. By the Islamic government of Egypt. That's not exactly Islamophobia. That's what's happening. See, the freedom to express themselves doesn't exist in most - if not all - of them places. Which is all I am saying.

 

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